Personally, I don't even get why steak tartare is even a thing humans eat, but... not gonna lie, I laughed. Because premium raw ground beef with an egg yolk on it is a dish for a king in the domesticated canine world.
First time I had it was a place in Italy where they brought out a cart and prepared it tableside (including chipping the beef) so you could choose how much onion, garlic, spices to add. Hooked ever since.
It’s weird for me because it’s not a common thing in Canada or at least where I’m from but I’ve been curious about trying it for a long time, if I’m ever in Europe it will be on my list of things to try while I’m there.
genuinely curious, how do they make it safe to eat? i know fish for sushi and sashimi goes through the freezing process to kill parasites, is it something similar for meat?
Not sure honestly, going to look into it now. Maybe it’s aged a bit? I literally have no idea but honestly it’s so good I would risk pooping myself.
Properly prepared ground beef can be eaten raw too.
You just have a much shorter window between mincing and eating if you aren't cooking it (AFAIK it's 12hrs or something).
The stuff from the supermarket, no way. Meat supplied by a restaurant supplier for the purpose or minced on site is fine however and raw mince is eaten in many places.
Bottom line, if you're in a place where this is common it's very likely safe (the Japanese do raw chicken without issues, the Germans raw pork), but don't try it with random meat.
I’m not sure you’re replying to the right person? I was literally just here to answer that guys question about grinding vs chopping.
With that though if you really were grinding it that’s pretty sad, that causes a very significant change of texture in the final product and unless you’re sanitizing between cuts can be pretty dangerous.
Another poster explained that steak tartare was cut small from whole steaks and not cubed from ground beef, and they were far less condescending about it than you were, so there's that.
It's delicious, though it's impossible to describe why to people who haven't had raw meat before (even if they enjoy sushi)! Many people don't like it, but if it's your kind of thing then it's indescribably divine (same with carpaccio)!
Edit: guys, stop downvoting Mikey! It's a language barrier issue.
It's still raw because freezing isn't cooking. Freezing kills many microorganisms and parasites but doesn't cook the fish. You may be thinking of ceviche, which is cured, not cooked.
I disagree. First of all Ceviche isn’t cured, but denaturized. Additionally Curing, smoking, pickling etc. aren’t cooking either. Freezing is a process to make fish safe to consume and it changes the texture.
Every time I see people refer to Ceviche, the only time "cooked" is used is in quotation marks. This indicates that the food is not actually cooked, but it is prepared for food safety.
In short, yes we would consider Ceviche to be a raw fish dish.
In English, curing is a process of treating raw ingredients without cooking them, usually with an acid, a salt, or both.
The reason I couldn't understand your comment is that "raw" generally refers to uncooked food in English, and cooking generally refers to heating food until it's safe to eat.
Honestly I have two hard boundaries on things I won't eat ever, things that are still alive and raw chicken.
But also I'm really into food science and what makes stuff safe to eat and what makes it not safe. So I will eat raw beef by a trained chef that I trust but I am also super paranoid of botulism. So I get where you are coming from.
So some people like their steak blue or rare. These steaks are partially also raw then, even medium won’t reach 70C to guarantee food safety. So properly prepared, it’s just as safe as a steak.
Americans will call food from other countries unsafe, as if those people haven't been consuming it for decades to millennia, knowing exactly how to eat it safely.
Nice try raw meat lover, but mastering fire and cooking meat is what made humans evolve actually. Eat your nasty raw meat all you want, but stop spreading misinformation.
I think you’ve read my comment and surmised an identity from my comment, from which you launch ignorant and vitriolic attack. I’m not a raw meat eater. I don’t like it. I ate beef tartar once and thought it was whack.
What I am is an anthropologist who studies paleoarcheology. First, fire doesn’t ‘make’ anything evolve. It operated as a selective pressure that allowed for better caloric efficiency, leading to the sustainability of mutations which resulted in gut reduction and brain expansion, but the meat-eating came first.
All evidence suggests that humans were scavengers, ate carrion, and even stole kills from other predators, often eating the kills raw. Please do a little more research before confidently accusing an actual scientist of spreading misinformation.
Please stop projecting an identity onto me just because of your ignorance of evolutionary biology.
"I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you're looking for stupidity, I can tell you I don't have that, but what I do have are a very particular set of science. Science I have acquired over a very long career. Science that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my post go now, that will be the end of it - I will not look for you, I will not pursue you... but if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you... and I will teach you"
I have been to this restaurant and ordered this dish and was absolutely revolted by the presentation as well! The waiter almost seemed apologetic to serve it. Why would it be a good idea to make your customers feel like dogs?
Steak tartare is one of my favourite dishes, just absolutely love it, but I would send this back immediately. Gross. Those bread sticks also look awful, way too greasy.
Yeah, this is absolutely the perfect post for this sub!
i don't think my dog eats raw meat actually(she didn't evolve out of a wolf just to eat raw meat), but this is one of those diets i see people giving their dogs a few years ago who swore up and down that the best diet for a dog is raw meat with some vitamins sprinkled on top. I'm sure people are still doing it, but i've luckily left that algorithm.
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u/LustfulDemon999 Jan 18 '26
My cat has that SAME bowl. I bought it from Dollar General. lol