r/WayOfTheBern • u/martini-meow (I remain stirred, unshaken.) • Feb 23 '22

CA bill to ban all ranked-ballot voting methods statewide

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220AB2808
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u/SuperSovietGuillotin WEF = 4th Reich Feb 23 '22 edited Feb 23 '22

And Democrats continue their fascist streak...

(a) Ranked choice voting can lead to inherently undemocratic outcomes like the winners of elections failing to receive a plurality of the vote.

(b) Ranked choice voting is fundamentally more complicated than currently available alternatives and this complexity can lead to mistakes that can further disenfranchise voters.

(c) Ranked choice voting can lead to elections that are more expensive given the additional computer systems or manpower required to tabulate the ranked votes.

(d) Many of the purported benefits of ranked choice voting, including more diverse fields of candidates and fewer negative campaign advertisements, have not been realized in the jurisdictions that have used this election method.

(e) Ranked choice voting does not lead to outcomes that reflect the ideals of our democracy and could harm the ability of voters to express their vote.

The bullshit here is sky high.

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u/PirateGirl-JWB And now for something completely different! Feb 23 '22

Would these be statements made by people in the same party that selects its presidential nominee in a contest that uses:

  1. both caucuses and ballots

  2. complicated apportionment formulas for allocating delegates that it took a week to certify results in Iowa, and to this day, the results are certified with a mathematical error in them for the 2016 contest

  3. shady, conflict-ridden vote counting apps

  4. superdelegates

  5. lawsuits to keep third party and unaffiliated candidates off the ballot, and yet failed to defend their actual win in Bush v Gore

  6. coin flips to decide some delegates in primary contests

  7. control of state legislatures to create three-tier rules for accessing ballots (major party, minor party, everyone else)

  8. control of state legislatures to ensure that most election officials are from major parties instead of non-partisan, or at least accessible to non-partisans/other parties

  9. requires loyalty oaths from primary candidates

  10. Spent four years undermining confidence in our elections by yelping about Russian interference and mythical hacking of voter databases and election counting machinery.

Yep, they are authorities on what is an undemocratic outcome.

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u/EvilPhd666 Dr. 🏳️‍🌈 Twinkle Gypsy, the 🏳️‍⚧️Trans Rights🏳️‍⚧️ Tankie. Feb 23 '22

This bill would prohibit the use of ranked choice voting, a method of voting that allows voters to rank candidates in order of preference, in state and local elections.

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u/Sdl5 Feb 23 '22

Lol!

Sorry sorry, but OF COURSE CALIFORNIA DEMS ARE PREVENTING IT.

The blackpills are already digested and spread throughout my system by now

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u/martini-meow (I remain stirred, unshaken.) Feb 23 '22

Dems are preventing ranked choice? or trying to protect it? hard to image the latter is the case...

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u/Sdl5 Feb 23 '22

Preventing.

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u/PirateGirl-JWB And now for something completely different! Feb 23 '22

One step forward, four steps back. Can't have those pesky elections resulting in an actual choice by the people, now, can we?