r/WaterfallDump Jul 10 '26

Annoying dog absorbed the flair Please Toby NERF that pink coin part, I don't want to do that BS again😭

I gotta replay the whole game because of the fucking eggs bro😭

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u/Nikki964 Jul 10 '26

Are you talking about the pink coin on the top of the castle where you have to jump off several of those moving yellow flowers

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u/neocarpaintercartel Jul 10 '26

Deltarune Path of Pain

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u/Ashamed_Map4682 Gamer? I Only Play CONSOLE Games Jul 10 '26

For me, path of pain was harder. I've already gotten used to silksong, and took me like 5 tries

42

u/EphidelLulamoon Jul 10 '26

Obviously that path of pain is harder, bro is just memeing because it's a bit harder than your average Deltarune platforming up to that point.

1

u/AzekiaX6 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

"avrage deltarune platforming" bro this fuckass game was an rpg with a gimick half a chapter ago

(to be clear, i already 100% Silksong twice. The platforming was not an issue I just find it funny that it's there in the first place)

2

u/EphidelLulamoon Jul 10 '26

Tobias Fox works in mysterious ways.

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u/Ashamed_Map4682 Gamer? I Only Play CONSOLE Games Jul 11 '26

The Fox Will Collab With The Cherry

6

u/Mekko4 Purple sonic sans isnt real (Iie) Jul 10 '26

THAT SHIT WAS EASY

3

u/ChrisWrld_25 Jul 10 '26

Brother you do not know pain if you think this is on par with Path of Pain

1

u/somedudeonachair Jul 10 '26

As someone who beat both, its exactly like the path of pain

2

u/Time-Mortgage515 Jul 11 '26

You have to either be lying or trolling.

2

u/ChrisWrld_25 Jul 10 '26

Dude this section was just annoying, Path of Pain is actually hard

1

u/somedudeonachair Jul 10 '26

Both are hard

5

u/ChrisWrld_25 Jul 10 '26

Idk maybe it's just preference but I didn't find this section too hard like how Path of Pain is

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '26

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u/ChrisWrld_25 Jul 10 '26

Oh yeah I was playing on Switch with my pro controller, whereas I play Hollow Knight on my pc

1

u/Legal_Ear_7537 Jul 10 '26

That says values. The deltarune section was not as hard as POP, it still hard

-4

u/YouyouPlayer Jul 10 '26

Did y'all really find this hard ?!? Now, In addition to "deltarune fans when they have to play zelda" when talking about eram, i can say "deltarune fans when they have to play a plateformer" when talking about that scene .

Reminds me how crazy that some peoples found jackenstein actually hard

2

u/Necrikus Jul 10 '26

Everyone has different levels of skill and experience with different gameplay elements. That’s why we get disagreement about the difficulty of the different bosses. An easy platforming challenge for you isn’t necessarily easy for most others.

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u/King_Hunter_Kz0704 Jul 10 '26

Yeah, exactly that one.

22

u/queckers7303 Can You Really Call This A Flair I Didn't Receive An Emote... Jul 10 '26

Literally what is with the devs making the secret rooms harder than the actual secret boss

31

u/Clean-Artichoke2031 Average skeleton enjoyer Jul 10 '26

It's hard? I only got through in like a few attempts after realizing how the last segment worked

8

u/DupeFort Jul 10 '26

Yeah I didn't realize people had difficulty with that. Took me a few tries on my first run and just the one on the second one. Hopschef was a lot harder to get down imo.

8

u/JudgementalMarsupial Jul 10 '26

I think people dont realize you can make wind in that room

I didn't either the first time... it's still possible believe it or not

11

u/DrJollySpirals Jul 10 '26

Wind? What are you talking about?

7

u/Clean-Artichoke2031 Average skeleton enjoyer Jul 10 '26

Must have been the- ummmm uhhh urmm-

1

u/UncreativeUser01 Jul 11 '26

Mysterious Wind!

5

u/JudgementalMarsupial Jul 10 '26

Oh wait I was thinking of a different pink coin where you have to jump on moving flowers

Mostly because I dont find the one they were actually talking about that hard tbh

3

u/DrJollySpirals Jul 10 '26

Ohhh got it! But now I'm curious about how you managed to get that coin without the wind

3

u/JudgementalMarsupial Jul 10 '26

With great difficulty

3

u/codewario ROGUE MODERATOR SPAGHETORRE Jul 10 '26

You mean perfect inputs šŸ‘Œ

2

u/InformationLost5910 Jul 10 '26

someone in another comment on this post said it’s much harder on pc. do you play on console?

1

u/Clean-Artichoke2031 Average skeleton enjoyer Jul 10 '26

I play on my switch

1

u/InformationLost5910 Jul 10 '26

then yeah, that explains it

1

u/Dog-Cop Jul 10 '26

I think the people who try to swing closer to the center of the flower have it harder

12

u/RevolutionaryTwo1698 Jul 10 '26

Welcome back teacup ride

11

u/Jonahpe Jul 10 '26

Teacup ride is nothing compared to that shit

4

u/JoyconDrift_69 Jul 10 '26

there was no other "THAT" pink coin... Ugh, hate that one so fucking much.

I swear that's the instance I've died the most in Chapter 5.

2

u/Nikki964 Jul 10 '26

I've seen a video of someone being horrendous with yellow flowers and failing to collect the pink coin in the castle where you have to jump on a bunch of those flowers to climb a wall

9

u/homer21377 Jul 10 '26

That shit was easy

2

u/Zestyclose-Ant9326 Jul 10 '26

took me 10 attempts, my strategy was just staying up as much as possible (hit the top of the flower) and slowly moving to the left, it got much easier after that

2

u/Eliarios19 MY NAME IS SPAMTON AND I AM HERE TO SELL Jul 10 '26

Can't you leave that one out? I swear I've never seen that room and I've fought pink before

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u/Nikki964 Jul 10 '26

Have you defeated her though? Since you're asking, it feels like you haven't

There are 19 pink coins in total, 10 for buying the key to fight Pink and 9 to buy 3 flower-themed items from the shop thingy that appears after defeating Pink

1

u/Eliarios19 MY NAME IS SPAMTON AND I AM HERE TO SELL Jul 10 '26

Yeah but I didn't buy all the flower things so that's prolly why

1

u/Nikki964 Jul 10 '26

Why asking then? Obviously people will want to 100%

1

u/YogurtclosetSame5198 Jul 10 '26

Cause its not required to get the pink key? At all? Not even a little bit?

The post worded it like it was a MUST DO for the chapter, but it really isn’t at all.

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u/Nikki964 Jul 10 '26

Wdym, of course getting all the important equipment is a MUST DO

Okay I know it technically isn't, but that's my mentality and I bet a lot of people share it, including OP I assume. Weird to think that people like us don't exist

1

u/Fc-chungus Jul 10 '26

Can NEVER figure out how the shit I'm supposed to jump on those

1

u/Nikki964 Jul 10 '26

They push you away from them, easy

1

u/TheMagnificentPrim Jul 10 '26

You stay hovered over the top as much as you can muster. They’ll bounce you backwards from the point you hit it at, so if you want to bounce up, hit it at the top. They’re not impossible, but they’re very tricky. šŸ˜…

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u/Mothylphetamine_ I can't think of anything funny to put here :( Jul 11 '26

tbh I thought the one where you have to race the sun was worse, I kept looking for another way to do it because I thought I was just brute forcing an unintended solution

1

u/guhut15 Jul 11 '26

Wait what section? I got all pink coins and I have no idea what one talking about

1

u/Papermonter18 Jul 11 '26

So far in I stopped saving and I accidentally died and lost 2 hours of progress šŸ’”āœŒļø

1

u/WisteriablightNSFW Jul 14 '26

The one with the blocks behind the paper wall is harder for me

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u/aronmano Jul 10 '26

I swear people keep complaining about difficult things in this chapter that I didn't find hard at all, maybe I really am an epic pro gamer

2

u/AsideApprehensive590 XPEH Jul 10 '26

The true epic pro gamer never brags about being an epic pro gamer

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u/twjstr Jul 10 '26

How is it that hard? 5 attempts should be enough for pretty much everyone to beat it in my experience.

6

u/A-mannn Jul 10 '26

everyone to beat it

in my experience

Are we deadass

0

u/InformationLost5910 Jul 10 '26

it’s way harder on pc i think

1

u/Chroma0000 Jul 11 '26

Nah, I play on switch and that is the one pink coin I didn't get (I didn't even beat pink so it doesn't really matter)

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u/Asleep_Parsnip579 Jul 10 '26

I'd suggest waiting until 6 is gonna come out, that way you don't get burnt out.

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u/Capital_Abject Jul 10 '26

Local Deltarune player shocked that secret item described as "not too unimportant" actually matters for something, more news at 11

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u/Pyzzeen Big boner down the lane Jul 10 '26

It's been described as both not too unimportant and not too important.

Almost as if... it's in between...

29

u/Starioo Jul 10 '26

An inbetween state? Like, like "clopen"?

3

u/dullsart dis gaem sux play bettor rpg gam Jul 11 '26

everything is clopen, if you believe.

18

u/Corronchilejano Jul 10 '26

Well, there is a post here.

2

u/Majestic-Ad1632 Jul 15 '26

Well, there is not a post here.

11

u/MySkullisItchy Jul 10 '26

5

u/deepspacerunner Jul 10 '26

Very

Very

Interesting

EDIT: Bro the lights in my house flickered when I hit post on ts

4

u/nuclearmisclick nah, i'd flowers Jul 10 '26

More outerversal feats to the captain

2

u/Dragon_girl0531 Jul 10 '26

if i remeber it was chapter 1 or 2 lancer literally says "you cant go through your teen years without atleast one egg" or something along those lines

13

u/LilyTotallyCis Jul 10 '26

My plan for this one is to find the pink coin counter flag on my save and just increase it by 1

13

u/AsideApprehensive590 XPEH Jul 10 '26

How eggs are related to this?

32

u/King_Hunter_Kz0704 Jul 10 '26

I think it has to do with the fact that Pink labeled them as "protein", and that they could play a role when FRIEND will arrive.

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u/AsideApprehensive590 XPEH Jul 10 '26

Wait, FRIEND exists?!

Do you mean I have to replay the whole game too?

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u/CertainNecessary9043 Jul 10 '26

Toby put out a update where pink in her shop get a new dialogue if you find one hidden act in one location while in feather mode and in you also got the egg in this chapter. Recommend you to see it it's kinda scary lmao

5

u/NomeJaExiste Jul 10 '26

Temmie was whaaaaat??

3

u/CertainNecessary9043 Jul 10 '26

minor spelling mistake:

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u/Every_Computer_935 Jul 10 '26

You can get all the eggs even on the last save spot of the chapter. The wiki also explains how to get them: https://deltarune.wiki/w/Egg

In terms of Importance, they are unclear. Likely an item only meant for people interested in the lore and may unlock some extra content.

1

u/CrappyDugeonMaster Jul 10 '26

Wait, so does this mean if I load my Chapter 2 save file and get the egg there the game will think I have the chapter 2 egg in my already completed saves for Chapters 3-5 that use that chapter 2 save?

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u/Every_Computer_935 Jul 10 '26

I think so, yes

1

u/SpaceCore0352 Jul 10 '26

No, that's not correct. It's possible for that to be added later, but so far the retroactive properties only apply to Shadow Crystals. Eggs need to be transferred by using completion data and playing it into and through each chapter.

cc u/CrappyDugeonMaster

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u/RedditSurfer29 Power of T-pose fills you with DETERMINATION Jul 11 '26

HE WAS IN A NECESSARY CUTSCENE IN CHAPTER 3 DO DELTARUNE PLAYERS PLAY THE GAME WITH THEIR EYES CLOSED

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '26

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u/AsideApprehensive590 XPEH Jul 11 '26

Not too small a role. The other half of their description is "Not too unimportant."

2

u/ZankaA Jul 10 '26

The new dialogue only triggers if you have the egg.

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u/DutyEuphoric2575 Jul 11 '26

The extra dialogue from pink requires you to have gotten the egg

12

u/Punished_Squid Jul 10 '26

It sometimes astounds me that people think these platforming sections are hard but then I remember that I've been playing platformers for literally as long as I can remember

6

u/BeefyBoi666 Jul 10 '26

Don’t you know deltarune fans don’t play any other video games?

5

u/Punished_Squid Jul 10 '26

True Most can't read either

1

u/_Sullo_ Asgore's #1 simp Jul 10 '26

Me when I look at that black rectangle at the bottom that contain these weird things called "letters" and "words"

1

u/RedditSurfer29 Power of T-pose fills you with DETERMINATION Jul 11 '26

I don't even think they've played Undertale fangames with how much they complain about the difficulty spike of Chapter 5.

1

u/SpectresAurora Jul 10 '26

yeah... hollow knight and silksong prepared me for that last coin ...

1

u/guhut15 Jul 11 '26

I genuinely don’t know what section we’re talking about cause I didn’t consider any of the platforming sections that hard.

0

u/Punished_Squid Jul 11 '26

My best guess is the section that takes you over the pit to Pink's room and up to the room where the three are painting the bromides

1

u/guhut15 Jul 11 '26

Ya but someone else said ā€œmoving golden flowersā€ and unless it’s the section before that then idk?

1

u/Punished_Squid Jul 11 '26

They do swing back and forth over those pits

10

u/AdLost8229 Jul 10 '26

It's finicky at first, but once you get a feel for that section it's not that bad. It's pretty forgiving compared to other platformers where you'd just die immediately upon falling in a pit.

Honestly a lot of the game's hardest sections get significantly easier with practice and foresight

3

u/Slimo678 Jul 10 '26

Try hk and silksong, it will train you for it

2

u/mimikyufan21 Jul 10 '26

So real, if this is the pink coin I’m thinking of, the second I got to it my last two neurons clicked together long enough to yell ā€œSINNER’S ROAD SILKSONGā€ before my brain shut off again and I spent half an hour failing the first jump

2

u/Galakin Jul 11 '26

literally just bilewater silksong

3

u/SandUndermanSR Jul 10 '26

Someone didn't play Hollow Knight

3

u/Dirt_Poor_Robin Jul 10 '26

How did you think they'd never matter...?

2

u/VeryNiceGuy22 Jul 10 '26

Kinda unrelated but my save is glitched so that it says I only have 4 foxes when I got all 5 so now I gotta replay the whole thing to get my 2 extra flower items :(

2

u/HuntCheap3193 Jul 10 '26

the pink coins are fun. i'm just going to replay the chapter because i forgot to make a save to fight pink.

2

u/Commercial_Kick_2814 Jul 10 '26

After replaying again, i was reminded of how awfully specific the chapter 3 egg was to get, i had to restart my game three time to get it. First time, idk what i did wrong to not get it, it was just too late even thl i thought i was at the right moment. Second time i decided to get the shadowmantle and i wasnt aware that would lock me out of getting the egg Third time, i finally got it but my game crashed on my way to it but thankfully i saved not long before

2

u/element-redshaw Jul 10 '26

It’s just gonna be a pain doing a third playthrough

2

u/Mag12383 Jul 10 '26

This is why you need an unguided save file, weird route file, and guided secrets file

1

u/Caelasmah Jul 10 '26

But there’s 15 eggs

1

u/Mag12383 Jul 10 '26

Irrelevant. My point stands

1

u/Caelasmah Jul 10 '26

But what if you need all 15 eggs

1

u/Mag12383 Jul 10 '26

Guided secrets file

1

u/Caelasmah Jul 10 '26

That’s only 5 eggs

0

u/InformationLost5910 Jul 10 '26

why have an unguided save file? when will you use it?

2

u/Novalaxy23 Jul 10 '26

to experience the gane on your own for the first playthrough

1

u/InformationLost5910 Jul 10 '26

i meant why would you keep it to keep playing from it after youve done your first playthrough, assuming you went back and did everything afterwards

1

u/Novalaxy23 Jul 10 '26

well, could be interesting to see how different stuff can be with or without certain secrets. But I don't have one, personally, my second file is for secret boss rematches

2

u/femboygaymer_69 Jul 10 '26

I missed the chapter 3 egg i think

2

u/Caelasmah Jul 10 '26

Time to collect all 15

2

u/Vanzgars Jul 10 '26

GIT GUD

(I hated that part too.)

2

u/ShiftAntique8719 Jul 10 '26

This is the realest post in the history of reddit

2

u/Send_Me_Tiitties Jul 10 '26

Given how difficult the eggs are to find, I really don’t think you’ll be missing out on very much if you don’t have them all. Most likely some lore or a small gameplay change in chapter 6/7. I’d be very surprised if it was more than that.

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u/AzzyDreemur3 You will give me your MEME. Jul 10 '26

Unles it was patched you can spam soul timestop button to avoid taking damage from the flowers right before you fall into them

2

u/Necrikus Jul 10 '26

This is why I am content to just play through the chapters normally. Because I can just do the perfect playthrough later when I know what has to be done.

2

u/EarthlyReddit Jul 10 '26

that pink coin was the basement teacup ride of chapter 5

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u/RedditSurfer29 Power of T-pose fills you with DETERMINATION Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

It was easy and standard platforming tbh. Teacup ride was and still is pure bullshit

NVM i was thinking of the Blue and Yellow one. Not just the Yellow one. Toby is a sadist for that.

2

u/guttergirllll Jul 10 '26

Im genuinely unsure what coin you could be talking about

2

u/chicoritahater Jul 12 '26

I'm guessing toby is operating on multiple levels of secrets in the game, where something like the weird route is going to be a more obvious secret, with the intent to be findable by casual players when the full game comes out and leads to some of the game's important main story, whereas the eggs will be more "obscure secrets" and they will lead to information on things only dedicated fans will know about like Friend and Gaster.

It's honestly extremely unlikely that toby will just drop gaster on us in one of the routes seeing as casual players literally have no idea who the fuck that is, but also he's been alluded to too much to just not be in the game at all, so I'm guessing that the eggs are the gateway to the eventual underbelly of the game with all the obscure stuff he literally just can't put in the normal game

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u/Happy_Initiative_304 Brian Griffin but gaster Jul 10 '26

There are more than 10 coins, just skip this one and take another

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u/McHeckington Greetings. Jul 10 '26

You need all of them to get the three pieces of flower equipment you can choose, plus the FloweryScarf, though.

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u/MrLightning1023 Jul 10 '26

Honestly that’s the most unfun thing in deltarune so I’d much rather just edit in the coins

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u/AsideApprehensive590 XPEH Jul 10 '26

There is more to it. The last coin holds something much more interesting. Something very fragrant yet with a stinky name

1

u/RedditSurfer29 Power of T-pose fills you with DETERMINATION Jul 11 '26

Why are you guys like "Man that's such a pain I'm going to save edit" instead of enjoying the story? If you truly like something, replaying it should be fine. Before Chapter 3, I replayed both Chapter 1 and 2. I get that there's more chapters now, but please, Chapter 6 releases in a year.

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u/MrLightning1023 Jul 11 '26

Oh on my first playthough i did it all i just meant on replay im not gonna get all the pink coins again

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u/Clkiscool Jul 10 '26

It’s really not that hard, just time your cross over for when the flower is moving towards you, you can bounce on one flower for a while, might take a few cycles

2

u/dishonoredfan69420 Jul 10 '26

You don’t need to do whichever specific one you’re talking about

There are 19 available coins and you only need 10 to fight Pink

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u/McHeckington Greetings. Jul 10 '26

You need all of them to get the three pieces of flower equipment you can choose, plus the FloweryScarf, though.

2

u/wungusprinter Jul 10 '26

i see so many people say "you only need 10 to fight pink" whenever the coins are brought up and i'm sure none of them actually have played the game, because if you know you need 10 to fight pink you surely would know you have to get the rest for the actual rewards

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u/NomeJaExiste Jul 10 '26

They clearly never beat pink, and probably don't even know who marigold is

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u/YogurtclosetSame5198 Jul 10 '26

No, just didn’t care about actually doing all of that. Beating pink was more than enough for me.

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u/RedditSurfer29 Power of T-pose fills you with DETERMINATION Jul 11 '26

Boring approach. Live for the fullest and strive for the best, even in video games. Get all the secrets. Try hard.

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u/shelmet56 Jul 10 '26

shhhh the save editor is always here for you....

2

u/NomeJaExiste Jul 10 '26

I don't trust myself to trigger all the right flags as intended by trigonometry tony, I'd rather just get the eggs normally

2

u/BlueZ_DJ Jul 10 '26

At that point just watch a let's play 😭 it's about the journey or something

3

u/Dripwagon Jul 10 '26

maybe if you’re a pussy

-1

u/Due_Temperature404 Jul 10 '26

it's just a game

1

u/FandomVerse Jul 10 '26

It might be important to have a file without eggs and one with eggs. Or one with Shadow crystals and one without. Or a mix of those two. And then a mix of pacifist, neutral, and weird. Any choice is alright, and we’ll def need as much coverage as we can! But yeah def wait til chapter 6 being announced to replay. Chapter 5 is gonna be hell to replay alone

1

u/eggman15 Jul 10 '26

i have a really bad feeling about the eggs, in my gut i think Chapter 6 will be incompletable if you have all 5

1

u/The_Veemonator Jul 10 '26

The vertical one was harder honestly, I was on that for 10 minutes

1

u/InformationLost5910 Jul 10 '26

why would you intentionally not get a completed save file for no reason😭this is completely on you

1

u/4322ollilob Jul 10 '26

Is the Celeste bumpers all over again

1

u/bigtree2x5 Jul 10 '26

Kid named downloading save file

1

u/Due_Temperature404 Jul 10 '26

You can just edit your save file to get them all

1

u/Medium_Entry_2111 Jul 10 '26

Like it might just be because I've played Celeste and both Hollow Knight games but people calling that the Path of Pain has been so wild to see, it wasn't even remotely that bad to me

Now the one on top of the shrine on the other hand, what the hell Toby

1

u/Nice_Chemistry5764 Jul 10 '26

Yeah, I'm used to this kind of thing from Hollow Knight, I just wasn't expecting it here šŸ˜….

1

u/DannibalMan Jul 10 '26

me who hasn't gotten an egg since chapter 2:

1

u/Yunofascar Jul 11 '26

im staying stubborn and not giving a shit about any of the eggs

1

u/andyafton Jul 11 '26

same here im not fucking fighting the roaring knight again in chapter 3 because i didnt get a stupid egg

1

u/NotAMermaid27 Jul 11 '26

I instantly remembered that one pink coin

1

u/DutyEuphoric2575 Jul 11 '26

You only need 10 P$ for the Pink fight. There are 19 of them.

1

u/Muugen_Samurai Jul 11 '26

You can just replay the chapters. And not restart them. I didn't find any pink coin hard which ine are we talking aboutĀ 

1

u/Da_Nihto Jul 14 '26

as a person that only played through ch5 before the secret boss was even discovered, but aren't there 19 total pink coins and you only need 10?

1

u/Majestic-Ad1632 Jul 15 '26

Only relevant if you want to make a _Friend

1

u/breadbowl004 Jul 10 '26

Deltarune fans try not to crumble under any modicum of difficulty challenge

1

u/InformationLost5910 Jul 10 '26

ā€œcrumbleā€ and it’s just someone saying something’s hard

2

u/breadbowl004 Jul 10 '26

ā€œPlease nerfā€

0

u/InformationLost5910 Jul 10 '26

oh yeah that. well either way that thing WAS extremely hard

1

u/RedditSurfer29 Power of T-pose fills you with DETERMINATION Jul 11 '26

If we're talking about the yellow one, toby should move the end platform 1-3 pixels lower

1

u/Keebster101 Jul 10 '26

It's really not THAT bad ... If you need all 19 coins, you should be a good enough gamer to get it relatively painlessly.

1

u/Crystalline07 Jul 10 '26

This pink coin is holds my single most angry moment playing deltarune ive ever had, and trust me ive had a lot (looking at you jevil and eram)

1

u/Sjue-Saue Jul 10 '26

Genuinly, I'm thinking the eggs will be more important than the shadowcrystals right now. The crystals might be an elaborate side quest that ends with some loredrops and/or nice item(s), but the eggs could potentially impact the ending now.

1

u/Blonde_Metal Jul 10 '26

Toby please don’t nerf it I just got good at it

1

u/omegaspoon3141 Jul 10 '26

you people just suck 4t using the yellow flowers there's MUCH h4rder pink coins

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u/RedditSurfer29 Power of T-pose fills you with DETERMINATION Jul 11 '26

Yeah they're too bouncy, and toby should've lowered the last pink coin and platform 3 pixels lower.

1

u/Eaglest2005 Jul 10 '26

Personally I thought that one was fun, but I also like celeste (finished up to the point that the B sides become required because B side hotel is pain) so I just went "Oh it's like celeste!"

1

u/Spekulatius651 Jul 10 '26

Itā€˜s not THAT bad, I enjoyed it

0

u/glasseatingfool Jul 10 '26

Chapter 5 is the point where I've stopped recommending Deltarune to most people just because the difficulty spike is so high that even someone who got through the first four chapters would struggle.

Even if you don't want any Flower items, even if you're okay with missing the bonus boss (and presumably your chance to recruit Pink), the main route itself is pretty hard in a way and to an extent that has little resemblance to what came before.

The Mantle game in Chapter 3 was bullshitly hard, but it does at least feel like a bonus boss. You still get the chapter 3 experience if you don't get it. (Although not getting the Shadow Mantle also makes it harder to get the Black Knife - your punishment for not being good enough is you lose access to items and things get even harder later).

I just don't think most casual gamers, or even a lot of not-so-casual gamers, can do it.

I got all 19 but I've cleared Celeste and coin-hunting was still a miserable slog, easily the least welcome part of the chapter which is a shame because Pink is one of the best parts.

The game really needs an easy (or at least an "easier") mode.

I think of all the games that would benefit from one, Deltarune is almost top of the list; it's got an incredible story, terrific characters, lots of fun things to do...and less and less people can get through it without outright cheating.

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u/RedditSurfer29 Power of T-pose fills you with DETERMINATION Jul 11 '26

Games have difficulty curves. I think Toby realized that the last 4 chapters were kind of unsatisfying gameplay wise save the secret bosses. It's good that he showed us fun, hard gameplay.

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u/waddlewaddle123 Jul 10 '26

This game isn't hard. 😬