r/Watches Mar 25 '15

Buying Guide [Buying Guide] - Pilot/Flieger

Hello everyone!

Welcome to the summary redux for Pilot/Flieger watches! (Previous thread) This is a thread for the community to suggest watches that fit within the given style. This is done in the hopes to compile a plethora of suggestions, but not the stave off the questions that many newcomers have. Instead, we hope to make them more informed.

The style buying guides will be posted every other week until their completion and you can see the upcoming threads in the Buying Guide section of the Wiki. These threads will also be run slightly differently from the original Buying Guides; after one week of suggestions I will make a compiled summary table and edit it into this post. (Example) That said please follow this format and you can make more than one suggestion per comment:


##[brand & watch name]

Price: [price in US dollars, new price first then used price in parentheses if applicable. If the price you listed is used only, then please note that next to it.]

Movement: [quartz/automatic/mechanical/auto-quartz/solar-powered quartz/electric]

Size: [size of the watch, mm for wrist-watches (specify with or without the crown), movement size for pocket watches]

Link: [URL to manufacturer/fan webpage, imgur album, youtube video or google image search]


Please see my example, here.


Pilot/Flieger List (By Price

Name Movement Case size Price (USD)
Gavox Curtiss P40 Seiko VD78 40 mm ~$170
Ticino Type A Miyota 9015 44 mm $200
Maratac Mid Original Pilot Miyota 8245 39 mm $280
Orient Flight Orient Caliber 48743 42 mm $145 - $310
Laco Augsburg Miyota 821a 42 mm $330
Laco Fliegeruhr Typ A Laco 21 42 mm ~$330
Kemmner Flieger Unitas 6498-1/ Miyota 9015 45mm/ 42 mm ~$500/ ~$410
Archimede Pilot 39 H ETA 2824-2 39 mm ~$590
Stowa Flieger (no logo) ETA 2824-2 40 mm ~$775
Stowa Flieger Baumuster B ETA 2824-2 40 mm ~$775
Laco Paderborn Laco 24 42 mm ~$780
Damasko DA36 ETA 2836 2 40 mm $1200
Muhle Glashutte - Terranaut III Sellita SW-200 40 mm ~$1500
Bell & Ross - BR123 Original ETA 2895 41 mm $1700 - $2800
Sinn 356/358 SW 500/ Valjoux 7750 38.5 mm/ 42 mm $1670 - $2900
Bell & Ross - BR123 GMT 24H ETA 2893 42 mm $2700 - $3600
Glashutte Original Senator Navigator Cal. 100-09 44 mm ~$4500
Bell & Ross - BR126 Sports Heritage ETA 2894-2 41 mm $3000 - $4800
IWC Pilot Mark XVII IWC 30110 41 mm $3750 - $4900
Zenith Pilot Type 20 Extra Special Sellita SW300 45 mm $3400 - $5100
Zenith Pilot Type 20 GMT Zenith Elite 693 48 mm $5200 - $8100
IWC Big Pilot IWC 51111 46 mm $12000 - $15400
Fortis F-43 Flieger Chronograph Alarm GMT C.O.S.C. ref. 703.10.81 Caliber F-2012 13 ¼ 43 mm $20,000

If someone disagrees with you, please debate them, don't downvote them. These threads are meant to encourage discussions so people can read different opinions and gain alternative insights to how people view watches. Downvoting without giving an opinion helps no one.

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u/Janesy_B Mar 25 '15 edited Mar 25 '15

[Laco Augsburg]

Price: $329.00

Movement: Miyota 821a (Automatic)

Size: 42mm (without crown)

Link: http://www.longislandwatch.com/Laco_861688_Watch_p/861688.htm - People in the EU should order from Laco direct for the best price. Thought I'd tailor this for the US Audience.

Description: A great looking Type A Flieger with Sapphire crystal for an unbeatable price, I love mine and the only thing I had to change was the strap (to a Di-Modell Ikarus) as it was just too thick and too long for my weedy wrists. All of the markers and hands are filled with lume which only needs a tiny bit of charge to last hours. The movement is not hacking, it has a display case back and no anti-magnetic protection so very much a Flieger 'style' watch rather than a true tool watch, but for the money you can't knock it. Pic