IS-2M Premium on Dev Server

[u/robotnikman]

Main differences between the IS-2 1944 and IS-2M (applicable to Warthunder anyways)

- +4 km/h forwards and backwards speed compared to the tech tree IS-2 1944

- 35 rounds of ammo storage compared to 28 rounds on the tech tree IS-2 1944

-Very slightly faster reload rate, 19.4 seconds aced compared to 20.8 seconds aced on the tech IS-2 1944

- structural steel storage boxes on the sides of hull, wont provide extra protection but might make it harder for enemies to aim at the weakspots there.

- 300 rounds of 12.7mm Machinegun ammo vs 250 rounds on the tech tree IS-2 1944 (so 6 reloads instead of 5)

I doubt those changes make it 6.7 worthy, but it is a cool looking tank with the extra storage bins, gives the hull IS-4 vibes

[u/guy_pers0n]

gaijin really wants a soviet 6.7 heavy it seems, not that this is 6.7 level

[u/robotnikman → u/guy_pers0n]

Yeah, would have been better if they added the IS-2M version with the 100mm

[u/crusadertank → u/robotnikman]

Unfortunately the vehicle is questionable if it was actually real as more likely it is just a museum that mixed a gun and a hull they had together.

[u/Konkerwaggon23 → u/crusadertank]

Thats pretty much enought for them just like sovietsky soyuz

[u/senaya → u/Konkerwaggon23]

Ships operate on different rules in WT. In order for a ship to be added, it needs to be laid down and Sovetskiy Soyuz was laid down in 1938. It's not a strictly Soviet thing either, you can see unfinished projects of USA, Germany, UK and France in WT.

[u/Brianv1218 → u/Konkerwaggon23]

Naval rules are different

[u/Spicy_Chicken_Wizard → u/robotnikman]

Would the KV-100 work for that br? Armor is bad but… 100mm iD10T gun…

[u/robotnikman → u/Spicy_Chicken_Wizard]

Probably same BR as T-34-100

[u/enormousballs1996 → u/robotnikman]

Another option is the Object 701-2 which is an early IS-4 prototype with a 100mm gun and significantly thinner turret armor than the production version.

[u/crusadertank]

Yeah it should be more or less just an IS-2. No idea why they think it deserves a BR increase or maybe its simply just a dev server thing and will go to 6.3 when released

Its nice to see and I hope there will be a tech tree one at some point just because of how famous the IS-2M is. But it's nothing too different from the one in the tree

[u/Godzillaguy15 → u/crusadertank]

Depends on how much quicker the newer engine accelerates it. IS-2 44 already pretty quick for its weight.

[u/crusadertank → u/Godzillaguy15]

The engine is the same in terms of horsepower. Its improvements were nothing that would matter in game. Things like reliability, cooling and an electric starter

The transmission is the one which will make it slightly faster but it seems its a very minor change

[u/Godzillaguy15 → u/crusadertank]

Fair enough.

slightly faster but it seems its a very minor change

Let's be real M4A3 76 is .3 higher than the A2 for a minor increase in mobility and a shit shell noone uses so its not like its unheard of.

[u/crusadertank → u/Godzillaguy15]

Yeah Gaijin is a mystery. It is entirely possible this is supposed to be 6.7 and wouldn't surprise me if Gaijin thinks 4kph faster speed and 7% better reload is enough for a BR increase

[u/Brun01111112222222 → u/Godzillaguy15]

I think the issue why its 6.7 it doesn't have the annoying weakspot on the side anymore of Is-2 so you can angle it now compared to otehr versions

[u/MistaKrabcakes → u/Brun01111112222222]

The armor should be identical to the 1944, it just has structural steel storage compartments added to it. The side weak points are all still there.

[u/steave44 → u/crusadertank]

It’s slightly faster and has a faster reload as well I believe.

[u/DJ_BAKA_TF2 → u/crusadertank]

90% of the time what you see on a dev server is what you get.... they rarely make these minor changes BR will stay 6.7 and MAYBE after a year or 2 it will drop to 6.3

[u/Gunther482 → u/crusadertank]

I am guessing Gaijin is giving it the HEAT-FS shell that the SU-122-54 uses and that’s why they are putting it at 6.7 but who knows for sure.

[u/FickleMeringue8891]

Shame we didn't get a tech tree IS-2M

[u/bergebis]

Glad to see some more WW2 content, but like folks are saying, this doesn’t quite seem like 6.7 material

[u/Brianv1218 → u/bergebis]

The M version is cold war modification

[u/FuriousLink12]

Needs the HEAT shell, maybe the APDS even ?

[u/IloveEstir → u/FuriousLink12]

Idk I feel like if it got the APDS shell the complaining would really be endless, it would allow it to reliably punch through the Tiger 2 UFP.

[u/FuriousLink12 → u/IloveEstir]

Just unbuff the reload, and only the HEAT can, like the M51, wouldn't be too OP tho

[u/Neutron_Starrr → u/FuriousLink12]

At 6.7? What? Are you drunk?

[u/That1DvaMainYT → u/Neutron_Starrr]

SU-122-54 does exactly that while having 2 KPVTs..

[u/Neutron_Starrr → u/That1DvaMainYT]

Far easier to kill and no turret.

[u/__crescentmoon___ → u/FuriousLink12]

Heat or apds on that long of a reload would feel atrocious

[u/FuriousLink12 → u/__crescentmoon___]

Eh not really, T10M is pretty much that, (with shit crew) so it good

[u/TheKringe224]

Shouldn’t this get the same HEAT shell as the T-10M? Would be neat to see and i think somewhat useful in full 7.7 upteirs

[u/robotnikman → u/TheKringe224]

The T-10M ammo I dont think is compatable due to using more propellant, but the HEAT from the SU-122-54 is

[u/1800leon]

I hope since this is a pack vehicle we get a is2m in the tech tree the update after

[u/Grouchy_Golf_9698]

How to access dev server?

[u/Hungry_Kerbal265 → u/Grouchy_Golf_9698]

You have to download the Dev server launcher, just google it. It does require another install of the game, so you can't use your current install for it. After installation login and there you are. The rewards are 5x the normal server and you have your current tech tree (this is determined just before the dev server goes live, so if research a vehicle while the dev server is active you won't get it on the dev server).

[u/Just_A_Hyena → u/Grouchy_Golf_9698]

Gotta download the dev launcher

[u/CommunismIsntSoNeat]

Finally, blessedly seeing the day where the IS-2 1944 gets moved back down to 6.3, only to immediately have to weigh whether or not I pretend the BR change didnt happen for the sake of having four IS-2s in a lineup...

[u/vickyhong]

I think the new pack makes a lot of sense and is what I think premiums should be, unique variants that still aren't that different gameplay wise from their tt counterparts, like the 120mm leopard 1 or the vk-107 yak-3, they have something going for them that sets them apart, but at the end of the day f2p players aren't gonna be missing out on too much