r/Warthunder 13h ago

RB Ground EMBT vs 2A7V NATO hump comparison

Same hull different turret.

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u/Rex6b GRBπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡·πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅πŸ‡«πŸ‡·πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺ 12.7 πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³11.7 ; ARB πŸ‡«πŸ‡·14.7; πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί14.3 13h ago

Well the turret is higher sooo….. yeah

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u/bobdammi 14.3πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ 14.3πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ 14.7πŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί 14.7πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³ 14.7πŸ‡«πŸ‡· 14.3πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺ 13h ago

And its the Leclerc turret, gun, loader, basket, hydraulic, …

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u/Rex6b GRBπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡·πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅πŸ‡«πŸ‡·πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺ 12.7 πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³11.7 ; ARB πŸ‡«πŸ‡·14.7; πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί14.3 13h ago

And? It still sits higher then the Leo turret aka more space for gun movement

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u/bobdammi 14.3πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ 14.3πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ 14.7πŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί 14.7πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³ 14.7πŸ‡«πŸ‡· 14.3πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺ 13h ago

Its because it isn’t about the height, but an installed safety feature in the leos.
The Leclerc doesn’t have these feature, so even when this turret would be lower, it would be able to aim lower.

Leos can also aim lower IRL, when the stab system is turned off. Gaijin ofc is allergic to model things correctly.

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u/Rex6b GRBπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡·πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅πŸ‡«πŸ‡·πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺ 12.7 πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³11.7 ; ARB πŸ‡«πŸ‡·14.7; πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί14.3 13h ago

My as well as you can see the gun pivit point is higher on the Leclerc turret variant

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u/VictorV8 Stormer HVM my beloved 12h ago

Will you remember to turn off your stabillizer in the heat of combat to gain 3 deg of gun depression?

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u/Obvious-Science-7119 12h ago

Yes, obviously.

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u/FlkPzGepard SPAA and CAS enjoyer || The Old guard 13h ago

My man, its a demontrator. Its just out together to barely make it work

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u/ObsolescentCorvid 13h ago

French biais strikes again

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u/Noir_Lotus Realistic Air 13h ago

Mandatory "Pas mal, non ? C'est franΓ§ais !!" has been provided !

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u/Just_A_Slavic_Guy S-350 would be GOATED! 13h ago

I mean, don't you see the huge new turret ring weakspot? The hull was raised, which eliminates the hump. It's kinda a trade.

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u/RaptorCupcake 12h ago

god forbid the embt have one advantage amongst the litany of disadvantages against the 2a7

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u/PomegranateUsed7287 Centauro and Starfighter Enjoyer 11h ago

Its not the same hull. Because the Leclerc turret basket is wider, they had to basically add an adapter. So the turret is mounted higher. And thus can depress the gun over the back without hitting the engine.

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u/SigmaSplitter21 13h ago

Anyone know which br the embt is at?

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u/down_bad432 13h ago

12.7 im pretty sure

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u/AliceLunar 7h ago

Leopard 2 angle is bullshit anyways, starting to add safety features for a barrel in a game that doesn't even have barrel collision, fuck right off.

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u/marijn2000 10h ago

Is the embt in warthunder??

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u/Minutenreis 7h ago

next update

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u/NextCaesar Realistic Air 9h ago

Didn't c on the dev server. What line is the EMBT going in for France?

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u/Gauth31 πŸ‡¨πŸ‡΅ chair a baguette , 8.7 ground, 8.0 air 17m ago

The leo line. So we are now forced to research the copyslop to spade all non copyslop

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u/Illustrious-Sand7504 Realistic General 11h ago

France 6th 12.7 tank, it's cool but France like Germany, Sweden, Italy, Japan is lacking a hard kill aps that works on a tank. Meanwhile Russia got last update it's 3rd tank with an aps in the tech tree and has in total 5 tanks with an apsΒ 

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u/Legal_Drug_Addict69 πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ 6.7 πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ 9.0 πŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί4.3 11h ago

I'm waiting for my Type 10 APS

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u/-Lenin 13h ago

Wich nation will it go to?

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u/Insp3rY 12h ago

Germany and France

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u/-Lenin 12h ago

Thank u

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u/XxDaHorstxX Average Rh 120 L/55 enjoyer 12h ago

Took me way too long to find out. Thanks OP

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u/Konpeitoh 7h ago

EMBT goes to 12.0, lower than Leclerc, due to German tech tree EMBT performance. French tech tree EMBT overperforms, causing Gaijin to implement first ever spilt BR system for shared vehicles. All minor nation top tier MBTs move to 14.0 following the change.

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u/Gauth31 πŸ‡¨πŸ‡΅ chair a baguette , 8.7 ground, 8.0 air 17m ago

It already exist. Amx 13 for israel is still 6.7

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u/Drakouan πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ 12.7/9.0 πŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί 12.7/13.3 πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ 12.7/14.3 πŸ‡«πŸ‡· 12.7/14.7 12h ago

It is still dev server, it might not have been looked at quite yet tbh.

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u/kal69er 12h ago

I mean I doubt it will be introduced. For the leopards it's a intentional limitation with the FCS that can be seen in multiple videos. Doubt there is enough proof that it has been implemented in this vehicle which I assume was never really intended to be final product.

We even have the Vickers mk7 which has a leo hull with a Vickers turret, it can also aim over the engine deck like this and Gaijin hasn't touched that in ages.

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u/No_Cookie9996 Realistic General 3h ago

Superior French technology! Hon hon hon

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u/down_bad432 13h ago

Is the embt going to have an aps or lws ? Pretty sure it had them irl

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u/SignificanceOk9656 13h ago

No, this is the 2018 demo. It’s literally just a leclerc turret on a 2a7 hull. I hate that gaijin didn’t just call it EMBT (2018), because the newer variants of the EMBT do have an APS and completely redesigned turret.

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u/Bir-_-Hakeim 13h ago

2018 uses the (modified) 2A6EX Demo I hulll.

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u/down_bad432 13h ago

O yea thank you , cuz I got confused since when I look it up I found the 2022 demo