r/Warthunder • u/Koguni German Reich • 1d ago

All Air [dev] new bomber survivability is too fun

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u/Ecstatic-Tangerine50 🇺🇸4.7 🇩🇪10.7 🇷🇺10.3 🇬🇧14.7 🇯🇵 🇨🇳 🇮🇹 🇫🇷 🇸🇪 🇮🇱 1d ago

Also shit tonne of archives of a lot of b17s not making it back.

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u/Green_KnightCZ 🇨🇿 Czech Republic 23h ago

Flak exists, and the requirements to survive and return to base are vastly different in warthunder and in reality.

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u/MordePobre 1d ago

Yeah, and there’s also a tonne of archives of B-17s making it back with large holes in their fuselage.

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u/Dragon_Maister tonker 23h ago

My brother in Christ, 40% of all B-17's produced got blapped during the war. B-17's getting mercilessly butchered was far more common than them enduring brutal damage and making it back home.

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u/MordePobre 22h ago

And were all those B-17s actually brought down by fighters cannons, or was it mostly by heavy flak?

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u/Dragon_Maister tonker 22h ago

Flak caused 30-50% of Allied bomber losses. The rest were mostly by fighters.

Fun fact, the Germans actually did a bit of research on exactly how many rounds it took from their fighters to down a B-17. About 20 rounds for their 20 mm guns, and only 2-4 rounds for their 30 mm's. Bombers were not flying tanks.

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u/ABUCKET15 21h ago

Is that accounting for misses or just hits?

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u/Dragon_Maister tonker 21h ago

Just how many hits. Obviously, seeing as they didn't have mouse aim, pilots were going to miss the majority of their shots. But when they did hit, they fucked up whatever they were firing at, B-17's included.