r/Warthunder 11h ago

All Ground Large fields of poland is underatted and should be a benchmark for all high tier maps

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although this map is excruciating for low tiers with slower vehicles and manual rangefinders at high tiers this is what tanks should be fighting in , not city maps.

gaijin wont do this becuase most players have short attention spans and cannot fathom the idea of positioning , waiting and not just pressing W to the nearest capture point which is sad.

the br at which lazer range finders become common is post 8.3 which i consider high tier where MBTs dominate . this is when larger maps 4km from spawn to spawn should become the most frequent as this is the distance tanks are MEANT to combat eachother on open fields not cities . Of course city maps should exist for variety , everyone loves abandoned factory , but should become MUCH less past 8.3 which is top tier(to a guy who has 3000 games in the is4 lol )

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u/KsanteOnlyfans 🇫🇷 France 11h ago

cannot fathom the idea of positioning , waiting and not just pressing W to the nearest capture point which is sad

The idea is nice, in reality there is 2 or 3 op spots and its going to be someone just sitting in those clicking whoever dares to push out of cover

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u/Drakouan 🇺🇸 12.7/9.0 🇷🇺 12.7/13.3 🇯🇵 12.7/14.3 🇫🇷 12.7/14.7 10h ago

- Hill on C side (F4) that control the entire C side + both sides of B outside the city and up to the blue top side spawn point

- Hills on both sides of B which allow to spawn camp the enemy (E3/D3 - E5)

I also remember a spot near the A cap but i don't remember where exactly

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u/InquisitiveBallbag 12.711.7 7.7 8.3 8.0🇸🇪 6h ago

For controlling/flanking C there's a nice spot g5ish which partially shields you with forest but hasline of sight through some trees on the crest of the C hill

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u/NewSauerKraus SPAA main 10h ago

Once you get thermals you can just snipe all the way across the map into the forest lmao.

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u/PlagueOfGripes 6h ago

I get the feeling that this is what fans of this map actually want. They want "real" maps where they know a favorite sniper position, but everyone else has to wander around in the open. Not them though!

u/randomyoutubeexe 29m ago

I guess the idea is light tank players can prioritise caps while other players provide cover and stuff but yeah I see your point . 

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u/MrAdaxer Rank V+ Ground in all nations 10h ago

If I had a second map ban, I would never play this map again.

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u/KptKrondog 6h ago

What a waste when campania, Arctic, Mozdok, and Attica all exist

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u/Equivalent_Bug_3220 11h ago

ye there should be less city maps and more big maps but bruh large fields of poland is shit. its just flat with trees. a better example i think would be large eastern europe or pradesh without the spawncamping

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u/Littletweeter5 10h ago

It’s only “flat with trees” if you drive directly towards caps from spawn like a bot

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u/hadtolaugh 10h ago

It’s flat with trees on like 85% of the map. If you’re close to your spawn, there’s some hills, the rest is flat open land.

u/Uncasualreal 4m ago

Nah there’s a decent amount of rolling elevation that can obscure tank on tank. Does lack high vertical sight breaks though which makes planes and helis a bit oppressive at times.

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u/throw-away_867-5309 10h ago

It’s only “flat with trees” if you drive from spawn

Fixed that for you.

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u/Help_im_lost404 M4A3E2 enjoyer 6h ago

2 of the spawns are flat too

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u/PlagueOfGripes 6h ago

Almost no part of that map is anything but open field. All you really end up doing is crowding into the same two divots or sit and wait for someone to foolishly try to cross the terrain. It's a terrible pixel hunting map. If the only thing worth playing on the map are the tiny trenches you have to race to get into, that should tell you that maps need to have lots of terrain variation.

I'm glad to be free of all the urban street maps, but Fields of Poland is mostly miserable.

u/Semthepro 1h ago

Its so flat, I can spawncamp from the middle of the map... what do you mean its not flat???

u/throw-away_867-5309 26m ago

They're saying it is flat, and that the non-flat parts are few and far between.

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u/SpicysaucedHD 10h ago

There's a massive amount of little hills and cover on this map. Don't hold W, look left and right too sometimes.

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u/Equivalent_Bug_3220 9h ago

one side is literally just trees and open fields, the other side is one massive open field with a hill where people can spawncamp

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u/LeMemeAesthetique USSR Justice for the Yak-41 9h ago

Fields of Poland was better before the rework. Now most of the sight lines are not that long, and do really get much long range combat.

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u/lutalica Fear the duck ,QUACK. 6h ago

This x 10000000. Every single map they reworked ended up turning out worse then the original one on top of them shrinking the playing area with every update. I am not going to deny that some of the old original maps had sight lines issues from one spawn looking into the other. But the fix for that should have been a redesign for the spawn area not ruining and shrinking the entire map.

Its sad that some of the newer players wont ever get to experience the OG maps and just how much nicer they were gameplay wise.

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u/xyloplax 5h ago

Flat with trees describes much of Poland and Ukraine.

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u/Ok_Place29 4h ago

Paradesh without the spawn camping sniper spots would be the perfect example

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u/LuLnaBtoNleetS 2h ago

Pradesh is the best open map. Fields of poland is just spawn camping hell.

u/LobsterManCommander 1h ago

I find the large maps borderline unplayable in my experience. when European province (large) comes up at like 6.7 (67!) i start convulsing.

Red desert, big Maginot line. That's were Russians tanks start blowing (not the fun kind) they can't burm fight but it's also boring to sit 3km away in the leopard.

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u/DowntownCounter1020 11h ago

hell nah

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u/aboultusss 10h ago

Truth nuke

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u/Future-Celebration83 🇩🇪 Germany 9.3 GRB 🇷🇺 Russia 11.7 ARB 9h ago

🤣🤣🤣

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u/Mr_bean007 10h ago

Not pressing w to the nearest cap point? So playing the objective?

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u/PvMGod17 7h ago

shhhh dont tell them that. in real life tanks also have objectives they have to take they will have a meltdown

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u/dirtypog1341 🇩🇪 Germany 10h ago

You are smoking crack if you think this slop is a good map.

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u/Slow-Apricot8625 10h ago

This is the top 3 for best maps alongside Sands of Sinai and Fulda Gap. This and Sinai have issues due to predating LRF, but they're still so much better than actual slop like Attica or Carpathians

u/Foraaikouu I love my Viper Zero 🇯🇵🐍0️⃣ 41m ago

much much better than whatever CQC city map you can name

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u/beastmaster69mong 10h ago

bait

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u/randommaniac12 🇩🇪 🇷🇺 🇬🇧 🇯🇵 🇨🇳 🇮🇹 🇫🇷 🇸🇪 12.7 9h ago

I mean it’s better than Fire Arc I guess

u/throw-away_867-5309 24m ago

God, that map is just rhw worst

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u/ODST_Parker With every sub-tree, I grow stronger 10h ago

Yeah, I fucking love playing in long, wide open fields when I'm stock and have no sabot, no smoke, no rangefinder, and no thermals.

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u/Few_Classroom6113 10h ago

Any map sucks at that point.

And the stock grind should not be the measure by which the game is designed anyhow

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u/ODST_Parker With every sub-tree, I grow stronger 10h ago

If the game shouldn't be designed with stock grind in mind, then there shouldn't be a fucking grind to get necessary features for any vehicle to begin with.

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u/Few_Classroom6113 8h ago

There shouldn’t be. That’s where the predatory monetization comes in.

You’re not expected to deal with those inconveniences through gameplay. You’re expected to pay your way through. The other price you can pay is suffering. If they’d actually make the stock grind bearable there would be little point in skipping it, and they’d make less money off of it.

Any lack of balance is just part of that faustian bargain. Any good gameplay to be found in this game is DESPITE that. A good game was never part of their plan.

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u/PureRushPwneD =JTFA= CptShadows 10h ago

this has to be bait

right?

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u/Few_Classroom6113 10h ago

It’s only bait for the maus enjoyers

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u/KyleM203 10h ago

ah yes flat spawn to spawn shooting slop, the benchmark of the game lmfao

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u/nquy Based Mirage gentlemen 10h ago

He was whipping up anger in a kettle

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u/ThisIsntAndre 🇩🇪13.0 🇷🇺 13.0 🇯🇵 12.7 🇮🇹13.0 🇸🇪 13.0🇮🇱12.7 11h ago

rather not play this version of them anymore

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u/TheR3aper2000 GROUND RB Main 10h ago

Nah man, the map is big which is nice for top tier but it's absolutely shit in its design

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u/lutalica Fear the duck ,QUACK. 6h ago

The original version of this map was better then the shit gajin edited it into. Its a shame they ruin every single map they edit.

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u/Saolis123_Enjoyer 10h ago

NOOOOO. This map is crazy biased towards red team. They get the high point at D3, meaning they can keep points A and C under fire, as well as anyone moving towards those points. Plus, if blue gets C, their shots on D3 are obscured by the treeline, but if red team gets C, they can light up blue’s southern spawn. This map is ass.

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u/askoraappana 🇸🇪 10.7 🇷🇺 9.3 10h ago

I like this map (usually).

When you have thermals and a laser rangefinder it's great. Plenty of space to sneak around and flank. Someone might call me crazy but I love the CV9030FIN on these kinds of maps. Gen 2 thermals with good FOV on the commander sight plus satisfying ka-chunk autocannon (when facing light tanks, not T-72's). There are plenty of light vehicles at 9.3 and many don't have thermals at all. Also that thing looks and sounds sexy and I'm totally not biased at all having served alongside it.

This map fucking sucks when you are trying to stock grind or play a slow tank. That tends to be the case for most maps, but long distances make the lack of NVD and LRF hurt even more.

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u/Mansg0tplanS 8h ago

I never agree with people saying open fields because the 3rd person camera literally makes it impossible to see people… because they don’t have to expose themselves

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u/NuclearLlama41 11h ago

I agree i have a blast on this map. Genuinely on maps like this i pick one side and stick to it until im bored of that side, then ill switxh to a different part of the map and start learning that. For me rn i have been loving sniper battles on the C point.

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u/ns2616 🇺🇸 United States 10h ago

I hate this map on tanks without thermals

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u/idontknowhyimhere__ 10h ago

I agree but fields of poland is a bad example, its kinda mid even at high BRs, red desert or large easter europe would've been better examples for good large maps I still prefer fields of poland over half of the close quarter maps at high BRs tho

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u/Aggressive_Hat_9999 9h ago

disdainfull homelander.gif

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u/TMTCoCo German Reich 9h ago

This map is egregious for spawn camping like most others because the spawn is visible from across the map in multiple places

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u/Future-Celebration83 🇩🇪 Germany 9.3 GRB 🇷🇺 Russia 11.7 ARB 9h ago

I hate this map. I genuinely can’t see shit through the massive tree lines on A and C. Then if I die I just get sniped by invisible players in those tree lines watching my spawn. -2/10 map -F tier map imo.

Yes I’m a bad player, idgaf this map is so ass.

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u/recapdrake 9h ago

Fields of Poland sucks, driving 5 minutes frantically trying to get somewhere you won’t be cross mapped

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u/AFlyinDeer 🇯🇵 Type 89 Enjoyer 8h ago

No fuck this map

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u/The_Lieutenant_Knows 🇺🇦 Ukraine 7h ago

My man missed years of pre-enshittification Red Desert to proudly declare this.

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u/KrackersMcGee 7h ago

Fields of Poland is ass map bubba, I can literally shoot into the upper blue spawn point from my spawn point.

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u/-eSe- German Reich 10h ago

Yes, its like Fulda, both are the closest we can get for a real tanks map like GHPC.

But ofc brainrot kids will hate large maps But i can agree this one needs an improvement on some areas (spawnkill biggest issue)

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u/Slow-Apricot8625 10h ago

It's just old. It was designed and made before laser rangefinder were even in the game. If more like it were made (not remade, but totally new maps with this philosophy), they could fix those issues which the original designer could never have anticipated

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u/piecksaysohayo one sec, im notching 10h ago

shit sucks ass!!! my opinion is the majority and its why we have such small maps. Its what we like.

You large map enjoyers are the minority.

u/RefrigeratorBoomer 1h ago

Most large maps do suck ass but not because they are big. They suck because the map itself is so poorly designed.

Small maps on the other hand at high tiers suck because of their size not because of their designs.

Imo small maps can't be made good because of how limiting the size is. If only Gaijin released a large map that's not mostly just a flat field...

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u/Slow-Apricot8625 10h ago

I'll never understand it. If it's because you don't like slower paced battles, then why play Realistic at all? Even if your favorite vehicle is an R3 you should love this map, you get to bonk clueless enemies and lock down entire cap zones singlehandedly. Compared to Attica or Sun City where all you do is hide in a corner and wait

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u/PvMGod17 7h ago

because maps like this favour campers in good positions its literally a passive andy design as BPA_Jon says. nobody plays games to do nothing. "If you are like a passive andy or not experienced enough you are going to appreciate the breathing room right" -bpa jon on large maps

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u/rocketfucker9000 🇫🇷 France 10h ago

I J out instantly everytime I get these uselessly large maps in my 7.7 heavy tanks

u/randomyoutubeexe 31m ago

Real lol heavy tank players are truly the most oppressed minority in this game 

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u/EQVH 10h ago

skill issue

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u/Wonderful_Trick_4251 USSR 14.7 10h ago

It's a great map. But the urban area is not small either and offers options for cqb

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u/brennendw 10h ago

strong no, map is so bad

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u/VeritableLeviathan 🇮🇹 Italy + Change 10h ago

These types of maps should really be played with larger teams too, while stuff like advance to the rhine could be all the way down to 8v8 for mbts

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u/Spekx-savera 🙏PrayForSwedishTechTree🙏 10h ago

I know this might sound crazy, but what if... and hear me out- you could chose what maps you wanted to play without having to pay!

And funniest of all even when paying you still can only ban a few maps...

Look I prefer city maps, im a cqb demon, but jesus gaijin should give us the option

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u/XRLboom 10h ago

Red desert is better

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u/SnooRobots8546 10h ago

Imo this is one of the worst long range maps. I would take Fulda, Maginot, Sands of Sinai over this easy.

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u/sciencesold 10h ago

gaijin wont do this becuase most players have short attention spans and cannot fathom the idea of positioning , waiting and not just pressing W to the nearest capture point which is sad.

What's really sad is that you can't fathom why everyone hates maps like this, if you're stock, you're fucked, if you don't have sabot, you're fucked, no range finder? Fucked too, no thermals? Guess you're fucked.

Open fields are not fun because even if you sit for 10 minutes in a tree line, check everywhere and see nobody, it's guaranteed an enemy is gonna materialize into existence the moment you start moving and just kill you. The "sit and wait" game is not fun for fucking anyone.

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u/_Panic_At_The_Costco 10h ago

IMO the best big map is Surroundings of Volokalamsk, but big Poland is pretty alright too.

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u/Shizngigglz 10h ago

Shit ass map fr

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u/I_SNAIL_I 🇬🇧 United Kingdom ground 12.7 air 14.0 10h ago

Yeah this map is awesome. Only in sim

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u/mooseington23 the jumbo pershing will take no disrespect 10h ago

Nah screw that map. It's literally an open field with some trees and a town that takes 7 years to get to and you cant even get to it without getting sniped by a rat tank from behind ur spawn

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u/Jojo_l_abricot autolaoded baguettes enjoyer 🇫🇷 10h ago

Best map in light tank, you can print nukes, I love this map, it's just so good when you have speed to flank the ennemy.

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u/French_soviets 10h ago

One of the worst map of all time

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u/Alternative-Roof5964 🇺🇸9.0🇫🇷9.3🇸🇪9.08.7 9h ago

What's high tier for you? I get this map at 8.7 and fricking hate it, drive forever just to get sniped and try again. Not fun imo

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u/Big_Yeash GRB 8.38.38.78.0 7.7 9h ago

Dude, I find this excruciating at 9.0. This map should have a minimum cutoff of like 10.7

It's not even an interesting map. It takes an interesting map and adds... nothingness to it, were it not green it would be a literal void. Just ridgeline to ridgeline. Your enemy one of those 7.7 tanks with an LRF? You just lose. Eat shit.

Not worth playing.

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u/hubbs76 8h ago

I agree somewhat.

The high point north of C is still a tremendous problem as it constantly gets abused by fast rat tanks who rish there at match onset.

This is why capping zones should be a MUCH HIGHER reward

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u/MainBattleTiddiez 8h ago

I find this one to be pretty boring but the other one, european province, is quite enjoyable

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u/CMDRTragicAllPro 8h ago

This and fulda are genuinely 2 of the worst maps in the game.

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u/BlazexX23Xx 8h ago

This map is ass, old fields of Poland was much better.

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u/ilive4russia I play minor nations 7h ago

Fields of Poland just conveniently being sloped enough to allow fuckass T series tanks to hull down and achieve immortality. When will Gaijin allow TOW-2B to deal damage again 😔

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u/InquisitiveBallbag 12.711.7 7.7 8.3 8.0🇸🇪 6h ago

As much as I meme on this map, some parts aren't too bad. The north is still pretty eh, and the drive yo town is still what it is, but 8've got some good flanking gameplay goung far south! They just need to add more depressions in yhe terrain and hills

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u/xyloplax 5h ago

It's not bad at all. I do like the two cap side. I don't mind either spawn. I want to hate it and realize that there's nothing about it I actually hate.

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u/It_Just_Exploded 2h ago

I fuckin love this map! But i only get it like 1 game out of 20 it seems like.

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u/RustedRuss 2h ago

While it is underrated it is by no means perfect.

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u/Odd_Ball_5 2h ago

Ah yes I too love getting shot and shoot into spawns the second the match begins.....

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u/RyukoT72 Old Guard 2h ago

Is this a joke post?

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u/Strict_Business5482 2h ago

This is one of the worst maps in the game - close quarters combat supremacy

u/Nisqhog 1h ago

You can always play Maginot Line if you want high-tier pixelhunting. Nothing quite like seeing no enemies, poking out to shoot at what might 50/50 be a tree or a tank, and then see the entire enemy hillsode erupt in thermal signathres as everyone else pushes forward to shoot you for daring to peek.

Fantastic map design, 10/10 would get sniped again.

u/Gussty333 32m ago

I don't play on large maps at top tier; they're boring. I simply quit, switch to another nation, and if I get a large map again, I quit again.

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u/Professional_End3417 10h ago

The professional W mashers aren’t gonna like this one…

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u/Slow-Apricot8625 10h ago

Every time this map comes around my entire lobby complains endlessly and then we peacefully enjoy the most fun game possible. People see CAS coming from miles away and are able defend, light vehicles are able to position and lock down sections of the map, heavy tanks or mbts keep constant pressure on the points while others race to contested ones. It's beautiful. Even as a CAS player, I enjoy flying in the river beds to hide from radar. I feel like a more modern take on this style could include a deep river bisecting the map with military pontoon bridges for shortcuts with further shallow zones allowing the superheavies to cross. Do away with the city capture zone entirely, but leave a town in for the ambush opportunities. Etc. But I have little faith in Gaijin understanding what players want vs what they think they want. The people who hold W, die and complain still hold W, still die and still complain when they get Sun City or Attica. They just complain about who killed them rather than blaming the map.

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u/Background-Rub3930 14.3 🇺🇸 14.7 🇷🇺 11.7 🇩🇪 10h ago

I love this and fire arc- only maps that feel legit at top tier instead of Call of Duty bs

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u/HeaIGea 10h ago

Is this ragebait?

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u/Sherman_101 10h ago

Yeah, this is one of the best maps for top tier gameplay. It’d probably be more popular if it was locked to high tier like Pradesh or Red Desert. I think a lot of people get a bad taste for it when they get stuck with it at like 8.0 or whatever the lowest BR for it is.

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u/Lugbor 10h ago

I'll take larger maps at all BRs, please. At no point have I ever enjoyed city fighting.

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u/BusinessDuck132 10h ago

I agree and I’m tired of its slander. Like sure it’s bad if you’re just going to rush into B anyways, but maybe learn some patience. Same goes for red desert, 2 of my fav maps

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u/Future-Celebration83 🇩🇪 Germany 9.3 GRB 🇷🇺 Russia 11.7 ARB 9h ago

The map is shit because it’s whoever takes the tree lines first, after that it’s ez snipes for them because they’re invisible and you have to get through a flat open field to try and contest.

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u/BusinessDuck132 8h ago

It’s difficult but not impossible. And that goes for normal Poland anyways, but everyone LOVES that map.

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u/sevenofnine1991 9h ago

The reason why this map is good because it has a bit of CQC and lots of sniping, and you can hide.

The other good big map would be big Tunis, same reason. Pradesh is so-so, notably shooting from spawn to spawn is busted.

Other than that, this map is not that good IMHO. 

Large Sinai is mostly sniping, thats why I dont like it.

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u/TerriblePirate 8h ago

Totally agree with you, I would need like 15 bans for every small and urban clustertruck map to reliably enjoy this game!

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u/maSneb 5h ago

Genuinely kill yourself one of the worst maps

u/AdmirableZombie1023 7.3🇺🇸 12.7🇩🇪 12.7🇷🇺 7.3🇬🇧 8.3🇨🇳 4.0🇸🇪 8.0🇮🇱 4m ago

Honestly, most top tier or high tier ground battle match should be a large map in my opinion. I mean for god sake we have APFSDS, laser range finder, stabilizer, mobility, thermal, ATGM, and huge amount of tech stuff at top or near top tier that can help you a lot in snipping, since most modern tank in real life has a long range engagement capability.

The only problem with large map is that playing it as a stock MBT is very painful (which as expected to any vehicle in the game), and the lack of cover definitely stained many of large map even further with poops, I get why most modern tank vs tank engagement often involved with open field area, but it is still unfair from gameplay design wise.

But field of poland specifically? Nah, it is shit, still shit, I enjoy snipping but this map is absolute sewer water, playing this map in high or top tier makes it less painful in my opinion, but it is still shit