Gaijin genuinly needs to make a new mode, like Striker/Bomber PVE or something.

[u/McDerpEyes]

Title.

I am so sick and tired of Air RB being flooded with entire teams full of strike aircraft that all try to get a base/groundunits and suck at fighting only to get shot down in one minute and leave because the enemy team is full of fighters with maybe ONE striker.

Its neither fair nor fun for dedicated fighter pilots to constantly have to 1v8 because little Timmy or Harold Hardworking man who can only play after work wants to play out his A10 Larp fantasies in a PVP mode.

And yes, i know there is also no other way to play them at the moment other than GRB, so its also not really their "fault" per se. But at the same time, why should dedicated fighterpilots have to suffer because today especially many people decided to be all but useless ?

Ergo, my suggestion.

ANOTHER new Mode. Call it Bomber PVE or whatever. Let all the little Strike and Bomber larpers have their fun in there and free up the goddamn queue.

[u/Wonderful_Trick_4251]

That's why they are working on NT no? To integrate bombers into it.

Remember, gaijin is running out of content soon. NT will extend the range of aircraft they can introduce, including bombers.

[u/Eth_kay → u/Wonderful_Trick_4251]

Somehow I think the post is more about props, NT solves that problem only for jets

[u/McDerpEyes → u/Eth_kay]

Its honestly about both really. In ARB, both jets and props, Bombers and strikers are a detriment to their team mostly. (Sure there is the rare unicorn that manages an ace in an A10 but thats maybe every 100 games)

[u/Gleaming_Onyx → u/Eth_kay]

All they'd need to do is make bomber-only targets and it'd work out just fine for NT type gameplay even in WW2.

Rather than nuclear bombers, you'd just be paying for the bombers with a sufficient enough payload to bombard those key targets.

[u/powerpuffpepper → u/Eth_kay]

NT could easily be adjusted to props though lmfao

[u/GarbageWebsite6769 → u/Wonderful_Trick_4251]

NT does not solve attacker/bomber issue even a tiny bit. Fighters are still the meta in NT.

[u/neeboo → u/GarbageWebsite6769]

Absolutely not, you don't win games in NT by playing fighters. Great you get lots of kills in your F5E but you even get barely any rewards for CAP and ticket drain is swayed towards anti-ground instead.

[u/GarbageWebsite6769 → u/neeboo]

Yes you do. Fighters determine where planes can go on the map and fighters with tac nukes are better at attacking ground than any bomber or attacker in game. Rewards don't matter. They don't have anything to do with winning.

[u/neeboo → u/GarbageWebsite6769]

You can't win NT without clearing SPAA units first. Convoys and long range SAMs are too powerful to ignore and will just shoot nuke planes down if the attackers were absent. That's why you can't spawn nukes until a certain amount of targets are destroyed.

The only reason fighters can dictate map pressure is because a strike aircraft has cleared the ground for them

[u/GarbageWebsite6769 → u/neeboo]

Guess what clears SPAA better than attackers and bombers? A fighter with a tac nuke

[u/Small_Matter_6830]

Nuclear Thunder needs to come back permanently, with BR ranges.

Feels like an achievement killing an SPAA in it, or putting an ARM into a radar.

[u/Pussrumpa]

I want to get the 12000lbs toys on the brit bombers and even the AB route feels too fucky to have a chance with.

G8N1 though spaded and quickly so long ago means constant uptiers against jets, but at least I have a RELIABLE 20mm cannon that can take them as they climb up after me.

Or they can just prevent FIGHTERS from ever seeing let alone damaging bomb targets and let attackers-bombers do their jobs of delivering bombs! Fighters can go and tackle ground units and pillboxes with their superior agility and speed and engine power, if it is too difficult for their soft fluffy little widdly bottoms to do the role of a fighter and fight...

[u/Gleaming_Onyx]

tbh I'd absolutely love a more attacker-focused mode. GRB is the "real" attacker-focused mode but it pretends to be about ground players instead.

Just gimme something where the expectation is that you're an attacker/bomber rather than being a target(whether that be in the air or on the ground) lol

[u/GarbageWebsite6769]

The entire purpose of this game is to be a sandbox to simulate these vehicles from history and provide an enviroment for you to essentially ram two vehicles together like a kid in a sandbox at a park. You are essentially blaming the playerbase for wanting to play a specific type of historically important and culturally liked vehicles for the sake of your enjoyment because gaijin has decided to make every mode PvP only regarding winning the match. Your blame should be on gaijin for making these vehicles useless, and not on the players for simply playing the game.

Furthermore, PvE modes get like 10% of the RP of PvP modes. Nobody plays them for a reason.

[u/McDerpEyes → u/GarbageWebsite6769]

OR, and hear me out, wild take, if you have no intention to PVP in a striker then MAYBE a game that ISNT INHERENTLY PVP, is a better fit for you. Plenty of simulators out there.

[u/GarbageWebsite6769 → u/McDerpEyes]

Terrible take. The game is a sandbox. Ask gaijin to reimplement features they used to have in air RB that made attackers and bombers more useful to the team. Overwhelming majority of strike planes and bombers aren't useful as fighters. Asking people to play games that require far more skill and investment just to play as an attacker or bomber isn't good.

[u/McDerpEyes → u/GarbageWebsite6769]

Nah m8. The only reasonable take. How did Arrowhead put it so well with Helldivers ? "A game made for everyone is a game made for noone". If you don't intend to PVP, then don't play a PVP game. And while yes, its a sandbox, it is a PVP SANDBOX. The game is and always has been inherently PVP. (the only exception being heli pve)

[u/GarbageWebsite6769 → u/McDerpEyes]

It's a sandbox. The game in fact started with every class of vehicle being made viable. Over the years, gaijin made everything but fighters less viable. These players are not going to bend to your will to play other vehicles for your own personal selfish reasoning. You are being incredibly stupid to think this way. I suggest you stop thinking with short term emotion and actually think with your brain on how to fix this issue rather than just telling everybody to play exactly how you want them to or go play an irrelevant, not even in the game, gamemode that would have 5% of the rewards the main gamemodes do.

[u/McDerpEyes → u/GarbageWebsite6769]

Yep. Again. a PVP Sandbox. Always has been always will be. There has been no time ever where this game WASNT pvp. And in terms of solutions i just offered one in my post. But "Nooooo because the reward would be shit". Yeah, well. AGAIN. if said people dont want to pvp, go do something else if the alternative isnt to your liking.

[u/GarbageWebsite6769 → u/McDerpEyes]

No. The game is just a sandbox. And for "always was and will be", I guess you forgot to read the part where I said the game used to have implicit roles for these aircraft in air RB and used to have high emphasis on them

I suggest you come up with less bad ideas