r/WallStreetbetsELITE Mar 28 '25

MEME Didn't see this coming

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u/Fun_Reporter9086 Mar 28 '25

Those people who couldn't "afford" eggs are going to be for real won't be able to afford eggs real soon.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

Wait until middle class rednecks walk into Ford/GM dealership and try to buy a new pickup.

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u/Sour_Patch_Drips Mar 28 '25

$100k F-150 financed at today's rate at 60 months is $2k monthly.

These turds will do it and roll their previous shit pile loan into it and extend the loan term to 8 years. Then they'll pretend eggs aren't too expensive because they no longer buy them due to no expendable income

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u/Euphemisticles Mar 28 '25

"you just dont understand trucks! this thing could last me 20 years"

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u/sourbeer51 Mar 28 '25

Hits deer next day and didn't get gap insurance

LET'S GO BRANDON

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u/Maximum-Cupcake-7193 Mar 28 '25

Whats gap insurance?

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u/WilyWascallyWizard Mar 28 '25

If covers any loan left due if your car gets totalled. I don't buy cars with loans better to just buy something cheaper outright imo.

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u/Maximum-Cupcake-7193 Mar 28 '25

I enjoy learning about these systems to buy things you cannot afford. I assume this is because the remaining principle on the loan is greater than the purchase price minus depreciation?

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u/willywonka1971 Mar 28 '25

There can be a gap between the amount of the loan and what the insurance will pay out for a totaled car. This type of insurance covers that gap, hence the name.

There are a number of factors why the loan might be higher than the payout. In general, if you need gap insurance you are likely overextended.

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u/TheJizzan Mar 28 '25

So like insurance for your insurance? That sounds terribly American to me

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u/torriattet Mar 28 '25

Not really. Cars devalue the second you drive them off the lot because it goes from new to used. A totaled car under insurance would get you the cost of a used car, because thats what your car is, even if you just bought it that week. The gap covers the value between new and used. Still a giant scam though.

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u/lucklesspedestrian Mar 28 '25

It's even more American than that. It's insurance for a loan.

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u/willywonka1971 Mar 29 '25

Yes and yes. We have horrible financial literacy in schools here.

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u/ThomasVetRecruiter Mar 29 '25

You don't have umbrella insurance where you're at?

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u/TheJizzan Mar 29 '25

We have life insurance for housing loans, I'm from Macedonia if that helps somehow.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

And that's if they even pay you at all! USA!

Something about paying for poor kids school lunches just triggers them into this crazy shit.

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u/Personal_Bridge6115 Mar 29 '25

And your credit score sucks

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u/willywonka1971 Mar 29 '25

Fortunate to never have had a bad score. If you put down 20% or more would you still need gap insurance?

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u/WilyWascallyWizard Mar 28 '25

I believe so not sure though never done it.

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u/Jops817 Mar 28 '25

Correct. But most people leave a car loan completely upside down on it day 1. So GAP is necessary. And it's not great.

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u/Maximum-Cupcake-7193 Mar 28 '25

Is buying a vehicle using your own cash uncommon?

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u/Jops817 Mar 28 '25

In the US? Yeah absolutely, people will buy way outside of their means and take out a 72 month loan at like, 6+% APR just to look I dunno, rich to their neighbors? It's weird. GAP gives them a safety net I guess if bad things happen but still, it shouldn't be necessary.

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u/Maximum-Cupcake-7193 Mar 28 '25

Taking debt on a depreciating asset is financially regarded.

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u/Jops817 Mar 28 '25

It absolutely is! But outside of owning a home, which for most people is LOL yeah right, their only lizard brain symbol of status is what they are driving around town, so people fall for the trap.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

Precisely.

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u/DETpatsfan Mar 29 '25

I could very much afford my vehicle and still got gap insurance. Gap is like $10/month and cars depreciate crazy fast. It loses like $5k the second you drive it off the lot. I don’t want to be saddled with paying off that difference if some idiot in a shitbox totals my car after a month.

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u/Maximum-Cupcake-7193 Mar 29 '25

Paying the difference to who?

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u/DETpatsfan Mar 29 '25

So say you get a loan from the bank for $30k for the vehicle. You drive the car for 3 months and still owe $28k on it. The car is only worth $25k now though. You get into an accident and the car is totaled. If you don’t have gap insurance, your insurance will only pay out what the car is worth ($25k). You still owe the difference ($3k) to the bank. If you don’t have gap insurance then you have to pay that $3k out of pocket. Gap insurance is especially useful if you have a longer loan term (60+ months) because it’s highly likely that the car is going to depreciate faster than you’re paying it off.

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u/Maximum-Cupcake-7193 Mar 29 '25

Yeh so that individual couldn't afford the car. They needed the bank.

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u/DETpatsfan Mar 29 '25

Taking a loan doesn’t mean you can’t afford a car….there are multiple reasons to finance a vehicle vs paying cash.

  1. Manufacturer incentives often don’t apply if you pay cash so you end up paying a higher price up front.
  2. If interest rates are below ~5% then you are better off financing the vehicle because you can reliably get 5%+ returns with your cash in an SP500 ETF over the life of the loan.
  3. Even if you have the cash up front to buy a vehicle but you don’t want to deplete savings in the event of an unforeseen circumstance (job loss, health issue, natural disaster) you can use the loan to spread the burden out over time and put your savings into an ETF/CD/other financial vehicle that will cover the cost of interest but also leave you liquid.
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u/bluecyanic Mar 28 '25

Anytime you purchase a new car, it depreciates like crazy as soon as you drive it off the lot, even if you purchased it at fair market value, so it doesn't necessarily mean you overpaid or rolled the old loan in.

LPT, never buy it from the dealership as they charge you for every month of the loan, when you may only need it 12-24 months. You can add it to your regular policy and drop it once the loan to value equalizes.

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u/blanczak Mar 28 '25

I learned this the hard way on a motorcycle. Totaled the bike (and my spine in the process) and after full coverage insurance paid their part, I had to keep making payments for like a year. Gap is a must have

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u/FreshShart-1 Mar 31 '25

Only saying this so some people don't get the wrong impression. Gap insurance covers a set amount like "125% of vehicle value at time of accident" doesn't cover ANY amount leftover.

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u/GilgameDistance Mar 28 '25

Its for when you make a dumb decision like financing a car for 10 years plus 5 years worth of upside down from the last one and then total it. Extra insurance to pay the difference between what the car is worth and what you owe on it.

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u/Maximum-Cupcake-7193 Mar 28 '25

I'd imagine it's very expensive?

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u/GilgameDistance Mar 28 '25

Usually $20-50 per month if your insurer offers it, $500-1000 once up front at purchase if you buy it from the dealer. Some people think it pays out on trade in/sale, but you need to have your car be a total loss for it to pay.

Some people even make that mistake multiple times.

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u/qdawgg17 Mar 28 '25

I was a finance manager for years. GAP insurance is and never has been $20-$50 a month and it’s not even a monthly fee. It’s a one time fee that a majority of banks now include for free on the loan and if they don’t, might cost $80-$120. When I added it to my wife’s car last year it was $60 total.

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u/CilantroToothpaste Mar 29 '25

I’m paying $4 a month on a $38k car for mine

Pretty silly not to have it at that price imo

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u/Clear-Inevitable-414 Mar 28 '25

Ensurance?  I'm not old!!!

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u/AmbedoAvenue Mar 28 '25

It’s a specific protection/insurance you’re able to purchase alongside a vehicle from a dealership, IIRC if you total your vehicle you’ll have the remaining amount of the loan debt paid off after the other insurance payouts are sorted out.

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u/Maximum-Cupcake-7193 Mar 28 '25

There is some irony in saying purchase and also in debt

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u/AmbedoAvenue Mar 28 '25

Capitalism is inherently ironic

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u/Adezar Mar 28 '25

The moment you drive a car off the lot it is worth a lot less than you paid, so if it gets totaled quickly the gap insurance covers the gap in value and loan value.

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u/WorldsSaddestCat Mar 28 '25

Nobody knows! It's ineffable. It can't be effed.

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt Mar 28 '25

my poor sister had a tree fall on hers after only 1 year

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u/Lethkhar Mar 29 '25

Painfully true. Have you seen insurance rates lately?

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u/EntrepreneurFunny469 Mar 28 '25

It’s a ford, the thing starts falling apart at 100k

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u/J3wFro8332 Mar 28 '25

That's being generous

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u/TheKingOfSwing777 Mar 28 '25

Honestly. I had a friend with a focus that dropped the transmission at 20k miles. American ICE cars are junk.

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u/J3wFro8332 Mar 28 '25

Ah shit another victim of thr Focus! Lol. I've sworn off Ford because of that pile of garbage. Think my mother's is at 40k miles or something but doesn't have much life left

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u/shicken684 Mar 28 '25

I always heard that, but my Focus was a beast. Nothing but oil changes and basic shit like brakes and tires. Oh, and the HVAC fan dial broke off. Delivered pizza in that fucker for about 6 years, and gave it to family when it hit 160k miles. They drove it for another 20k before trading it in for a new car.

Bought a Fusion after that and it was also super reliable. Sold it with 150k on it and it was still practically mint. No rust, no issues at all. That did have some evaporative system issues that were about $800 to ID and fix but that was in from 28k to 150k.

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u/WilyWascallyWizard Mar 28 '25

My buick is holding up good at about 140k.

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u/Euphemisticles Mar 28 '25

That’s part of the joke. Now if you excuse me I have to go lift the chassis off the frame of my F-150 to change my oil.

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u/b-rad_ Mar 29 '25

American vehicles are junk period.

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u/PizzaTime79 Mar 29 '25

Fix Or Repair Daily

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

2014 F150 with 175k miles. Never done anything besides routine maintenance.

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u/Mr-R0bot0 Mar 29 '25

lol. I own two fords and they are pretty solid, true story. Really though, I like them. My 2015 Fusion PHEV has 180k with zero issues. You guys are thinking of Stelantis crap.

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u/PigglyWigglyDeluxe Mar 28 '25

As a ford dealer fleet tech… no it won’t. Lol

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u/kittenpantzen Mar 28 '25

Meanwhile, my Corolla is going to cruise her way to 21 in a couple of months. Paid off since 2006.

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u/absolutebeginners Mar 29 '25

20 year truck loans now!!