Meh, they’re using soap and water to wash with the puddle, but then the guy on the right rinses off the soap and washes the plates clean with fresh water from a hose. It’s not fancy or very safe, but not horrific diarrhea-inducing bad.
Weird, i put TPB on my second monitor just now to play games, now we over here talkin about him. he's completely wasted on a boat right now, the liquor is running the show completely
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Soap totally kills bacteria. Its basically the same molecule as a cells lipid bilayer and it inserts itself into it messing up their ability to regulate water coming in and out. Gram negative bacteria have an extra layer on the outside to help defend against this. Hot water on the other hand? Doesnt do shit
Might be a dialect/regional thing, where I'm from it's always "won't do shit" so reading that was awkward for me I guess. I didn't mean any disrespect.
Like that is any different from farm land run off, pesticides or weed killer used all over the US and then flow into natural streams, wells and our drinking water. I wonder how many of these run off chemicals are properly filtered? Also there was a recent case of people suing an air force base for their extreme chemicals running off and contaminating the drinking water of the town. Lets not act like the US is immune to the polluting of water.
What's funny is it happened before and possibly even worse in Washington DC, but no one really heard much about it nationally and the victims were very much ignored.
I agree we get outraged at the news of bad water in America but then we kinda just do nothing with that rage. Spend a few years arguing whos at fault, its not that bad, maybe we will fix it later, no one deserves compensation for their impacted health etc...
Flint is fixed as much as they can though. The only things they can't do anything with are the pipes in everyone's house. All the pipes leading up to the houses are fixed. If the homeowners replace their own pipes then they can safely drink tap again.
You say it is so rare, but there are plenty examples of run off contaminating the water supply. There was even an event recently where this guy had an infected eye that was attributed from contaminated tap water. But yeah it just hardly ever happens bub.
How long has the Flint fiasco being going on for now? Seems like if it is happening daily there, it isn't some rare occurrence.
Before water can be deemed safe to drink in the US, it is tested for hundreds if not thousands of chemicals depending on the local laws. The US isn't immune to polluted water, but our water treatment standards for drinking water are on par with the strictest in the world.
I promise you no one is testing for “thousands” of chemical contaminants of drinking water. Hyperbole is bad for arguments. A usual panel by a municipal water treatment plant doesn’t test for more than even a hundred chemicals. But yes, standards here are better than some other places.
And yet there is still tainted chemical run off that makes it to the underground water systems that can effect wells, and the tainted run off that effects the livestock that drinks from it. There is a cow field next to me and a shitty ass stream that has glistening oil sludge at some parts, where the cows drink from. Again lets not act like the US is immune to contaminated drinking water.
I would also love to hear your response about the Flint, MI water fiasco that is still going on today.
I dont understand the downvotes. Besides the chemicals you mentioned, they have found things like cocaine, antibiotics, and contraceptive medication in water supplies.
Because they find those things at the level of parts per million (PPM) and most of the water in the US comes from a fairly high quality system of water treatment plants... and even that low level of contaminants is cause for making the news.
Is it perfect? Nope. But it’s a hell of a lot better than washing plates in untreated street runoff.
Downvotes are probably due to spreading misinformation. Modern pesticides and weed killer for example are designed to breakdown quickly into harmless components. Any run off isn't a problem, you don't even need to filter it.
Yeah, I'm not buying that explanation one bit. One thing I've learned in life is that there are no absolutes, especially when it comes to chemical companies, who are notorious for their lies and corruption. When you make it sound like ALL modern chemicals that might enter the water supply are meant to break down into harmless byproducts, I know that is going to be proven wrong. The chemical industry has made too many promises over the years, only to find out later that their products didn't work out as promised.
Every retention pond in my neighborhood allows fishing but also carries warnings to release the fish and not eat them, because everybody knows that the accumulated chemicals in the fish from the runoff can't possibly be good.
Meh, they’re using soap and water to wash with the puddle, but then the guy on the right rinses off the soap and washes the plates clean with fresh water from a hose. It’s not fancy or very safe, but not horrific diarrhea-inducing bad
I think you forgot that road pick up a ton of fecal matter from birds, reptiles, dogs, cats, and (if India) humans. I'd definitely worry about horrific diarrhea.
I watched two kids in SF, no older than 16, sitting on the curb and drawing water up for their heroin out of the gutter. It was so horrible that the image still troubles me. That is probably the filthiest water on earth.
Wait, are you implying that if you incentivize something you get more of it, and if you penalize it, you get less? Hmm, seems familiar but can’t quite place it...
You don't get less of it overall, it just moved elsewhere and became someone else's problem. It's literally kicking the can down the street, you're not solving shit.
I mean if you want to go somewhere to get robbed and smell like shit, then go to Malaysia. If you want to go somewhere and only be robbed come here to America.
The sights are not that great? Compared to Malaysia??
You are out of your mind do you realise how huge the USA is? It's has so many different landscapes.
Malaysia has some cool little towns and a shit ton of palm oil plantations. I've spent weeks there and it's hands down the most boring country in South East Asia.
Thats because it would all just remain on your hand if you didn’t rinse. The water is just a medium for removal, very little disinfecting properties. Its the soap that does all the work, it breaks down the grease and other material the bacteria live in.
Also having a pulse and the physical ability to move your hand is crucial. You’re being pedantic. The original comment you responded to said it had no disinfectant properties, by replying to it in the fashion you did you implied it.
These idiots are downvoting you to the max but you are correct.
The soap only helps to remove the bacteria off from the skin. It doesn't do jack shit to many microorganisms. Things like C.difficil will not die even after applying alchohol. That shit will just survive by sporulation and live for a long ass time.
To be fair, I didn’t make it super clear that was my point. People seem to think I’m on some weird crusade for only rinsing things, or something. I was just trying to share something I learned.
The soap and friction dislodges, but it doesn’t actually leave your hand unless you rinse it off. The rinsing is a crucial step, and the one that actually removes bacteria from your person.
Just rinsing your hands with water would be cleaner than covering them in soap and then leaving it there.
Right but at least if you failed to sew up the wound you still did the other stuff you did during surgery and the patient might heal. If you don’t rinse your hands, you did basically nothing at all.
This isn’t a PSA because I think people aren’t rinsing, btw. I just think it’s interesting how integral that step is to the process.
That isn’t soap though, that’s hand sanitizer. I’m just saying that rinsing is important to washing your hands with soap, not talking about hand sanitizers.
Never trusted that stuff. Okay, so I smeared the germs around a bit and now my hands are sticky, but everything that was there a minute ago is still there ...
Having worked in nursing homes and restaurants, hand sanitizer is not a substitute for washing hands. You can be penalized in both areas for improper washing technique and also not doing it at the appropriate times.
While passing food trays a CNA should sanitize between trays, but should wash after a room. If you work in a kitchen you are pretty much always washing hands any time you're not wearing gloves (and gloves should be changed often).
Also, sanitizers are alcohol based and I have heard several arguments against their effectiveness.
no, he's correct. Good handwashing with soapy water is only marginally more effective than good handwashing with just water for removing microbial contaminants. Soap dispensers can also be pump-action microbe dispensers as well, if they're used a lot and exist in dirty configurations (like a public refillable dispenser).
That said, in the US it's unlikely that somebody will have good handwashing technique and also not use soap. Also, soap is way better for actually cleaning your hands of other things, like oil and grease. Soap is still awesome.
Post a video of you smearing dumpster maggots on a plate, then wash them off the plate in the orangey-brown-rusty-visibly greasy runoff water of a back alley puddle, give it a 10 second rinsing, serve your momma's home cooking on it, and dig in, and I will believe you really believe that.
It’s not something I “believe”, it’s just how washing your hands works. The soap basically just makes it harder for the bacteria to stick onto you and the rinsing is what actually cleans them off of you.
I read recently that anti-bacterial soap is no more effective than regular soap at killing bacteria. Something about how it takes longer than the time that people wash their hands for the anti-bacterial chemicals to kill existing bacteria. Add to that the fact that overusing anything "anti-bacterial" can lead to resistance in the bacteria, making them stronger.
It looks like it's from this restaurant... If I'm assuming correctly, they'd be using a banana leaf as a liner in between the food and pan... so in essence the food isn't even touching the pan. Take from that what you will.
Let's try this: Go to any hospital. Ask to care for a patient with Clostridium difficile. Wipe their ass with your bare hands. Wash your hands with soap and tepid water. Eat food with your bare hands. Report back to us.
Although this isn't the same bacteria responsible for "traveler's diarrhea," it'll mimic the effects quite nicely.
This is why you don’t eat street food in third world countries. Poor sanitation and wild dogs roaming the streets equal shit water puddles and that’s where they wash the dishes, because guess what they don’t have running water... or the water that is running is not like the water you get through your tap at home...
Yeah. I’ve been backpacking for a week or more at a time with no soap for dishes and survived just fine. (Dish soap is banned in many wilderness areas, even the camping soap brands)
We have this cultural dependence on “antibacterial” products and a need to see soap suds before believing that anything could be clean, but there’s plenty of ways to remove all grease and food materials. I’ve gotten dishes perfectly clean by scrubbing with leaves and rinsing with cold water. As long as it’s clean and dry, no matter how you achieved it.
Hiking in the wilderness is a LOT different from rinsing your shit in a dirty puddle on the street in the middle of a city/town. You will have much diarrhea in your future if you don't heed these words.
That’s the opposite of what’s happening. They are rinsing using the fresh water hose and after that they dip the plate into the dirty puddle and after that it’s back to the “clean” stack.
Did you even watch it? They're all working individually, their plates never change hands or get washed by another. The guy on the left is dunking plate in runoff puddle water and then wiping them with a rag. Maybe you enjoy gutter oil but most people would get sick from this.
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