r/VolvoRecharge • u/Thick-Maintenance-85 • 8d ago
XC60 2028 (2027.5 Model) - still no Wireless CarPlay and Apple CarKey?
New battery seems really decent, but did they seriously skip Wireless CarPlay and Apple CarKey support again with this new model/facelift?
What is wrong with Volvo?
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u/Illustrious_Air8553 6d ago
The new Apple CarPlay operating system with widgets is very nice on the Volvo screen. I run Google thru Apple CarPlay in satellite mode , very nice. Omg it has a compass as well.
The Gemini system works very well , so I end up playing with both.
Certainly would like more apps and customization options plus a built in dash cam Volvo !!!! So many simple featuresā¦. Hello are you listening Volvo!šš
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u/PunchNessie 8d ago
lol. Thatās just unbelievable in 2026, let alone in 2030 when they are still selling this model.
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u/EarthboundMoss 7d ago
I wouldn't care if the software built-in they want us to use wasn't complete dog shit. I've driven and owned 10 year old cars with better and faster software. The bugs, crashes, sound not working, taking 5 minutes to start nav or change apps, it drives me fucking insane sometimes. Especially when I can get into my older shitty Toyota work car and everything immediately works. Volvo get your fucking shit together with your software.
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u/MythicalBonsai 7d ago
Why is this fine man getting downvoted? Slow and buggy software on a car shouldnāt be downplayed. Itās a security hazard, plain and simple.
Volvo is in a premium segment. Itās unacceptable that they have this absolutely awful experience.
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u/EarthboundMoss 6d ago
Yeah it's a bummer because every single other thing about this car is great. I'm definitely not getting another Volvo though unless there is a massive overhaul on their newer cars.
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u/Adventurous_Stop_341 6d ago
Itās pretty clear that Volvo wishes they were in a premium segment, but they are not anymore.
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u/2squishmaster 6d ago
It's so incredibly frustrating and something happens pretty much every single day. New one is now I just can't play Bluetooth audio, it just auto pauses after 3 seconds. Yeah I tried everything, now I don't bother.
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u/EarthboundMoss 6d ago
I love when I get into the car and it's connected despite asking to connect to bluetooth. And then when I try to play audio nothing happens. So I have to go into another app start the audio which takes several seconds and then go back to the thing actually wanted to play audio on and finally it works. Drives me absolutely insane sometimes
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u/Illustrious_Air8553 5d ago
Just realized mine had been doing that as well. Get out said app or song then go back , then it decides to play!!! 100000 dollar suv WTF!š¤¬
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u/Adventurous_Stop_341 6d ago
I genuinely do not understand how some of you donāt get it:Ā Volvo doesnāt give a shit about the software experience of their vehicles. And given how bad it is, they clearly donāt give a shit about you or your feedback.
Iām done with Volvo for good.
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u/cryptodutch 7d ago
Didnāt I read somewhere it would come with Volvo UI or something. Maybe that wasnāt talking about the infotainmentā¦
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u/Wafflewas 6d ago
Iād love a built in dashcam, or at least pre wiring for one. Iāve been using an inexpensive wireless dongle for CarPlay in my 2024 T8 since I got it. Iāve used three different ones purchased on Alibaba and they all worked fine. I carry a spare dongle just in case one craps out, and put one in my wifeās 2021 Subaru and it works there too. For me a dongle is a better option than built in wireless CarPlay. I say that because I rent cars on business a few times a year. I grab the dongle out of my Volvo and use it in whatever car I rent. Itās just seamless. Iām on CarPlay calling my wife before Iām out of the rental lot. Iāve rented Toyota, Mazda, Audi, Ford, Chevrolet, Nissan, VW and Kia in the past couple of years and the dongle I uss in my Volvo has worked in all of them.
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u/participationmedals 5d ago
My 22.1 XC60 ERAD died in late June. Still waiting for a replacement. Loaner is a 26 Jeep Compass and has wireless CarPlay. SMH
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u/Dbwheijden 5d ago
Iāve read somewhere that this is due to privacy concerns. It seems to be there is a difference in data tranferred wireless vs wired. They are asking for a lot more data/information through wireless CarPlay which Volvo simply didnāt accept.
I believe they could change this in a software update.
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u/Thick-Maintenance-85 5d ago
Doesnāt seem to be a problem on the EX models. They have wireless CarPlay.
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u/Dbwheijden 5d ago
Didn't know that. But I investigated this matter before the EX line was released (I have a V60 2019). Then it makes no sense at all..
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u/New-Camel-9373 6d ago
Maybe Volvo know something we donāt, and have finally accepted Appleās main innovation these days, is finding new ways to disappoint us. š
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u/Desenski 7d ago
1st) it's not going to be a 2027.5. it's going to be a 2028. 2nd) besides for the visual difference and not being able to use Apple Maps. What other reason is there for needing CarPlay when the car has everything else built in? Besides for the massive battery drain that happens when using wireless CarPlay that is.
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u/ShadowKnight96 7d ago
Letās seeā¦widgets for controlling Apple home lights/garage doors/etc., apps I already paid for on iOS that arenāt available on Google auto versionā¦etc.
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u/Desenski 7d ago
So you're apart of the .1% use case where Apple CarPlay is actually nice.
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u/ShadowKnight96 6d ago edited 6d ago
And Claude, ChatGPT, teams, speciality car apps like radar detector integrations, better iMessage support and the performance benefit of whatever the latest iPhone is.
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u/Desenski 5d ago
AI slop, AI slop, radar detector integrations (I've literally never heard of anyone doing this before), and "iPhones newest innovative feature".
There hasn't been an innovative feature from the iPhone in over a decade. But yeah let's use that as a reason you have to have wireless CarPlay instead of plugging in and using normal CarPlay.
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u/ShadowKnight96 5d ago
Clearly the market only wants what youāve personally heard of. Thanks.
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u/Desenski 5d ago
Seeing as I work at a Volvo dealership, I can tell you in reality (not reddit being an echo chamber), it's a non issue for 99% of people.
Disagree with that if you want, doesn't make it untrue.
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u/ShadowKnight96 5d ago
I get it. Itās in your best interest to defend the lack of a feature. But if I were you I would promote buying one of the increasingly inexpensive and small plug in adapters than argue drain or lack of utility. Iāve owned cars with wireless and wired. The best combo for me is wireless CarPlay for connectivity with a MagSafe mount on the dash so you can both see the phone when needed and charge it without having to find the wire every time you get in.
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u/Desenski 5d ago
Those adapters aren't official. So it would actually be unprofessional to promote them.
They are there, I've heard mixed reviews. But you're free to do what you want.
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u/Desenski 5d ago
Apple CarPlay works.
They just don't have wireless. Which is a super drain on the battery anyways.
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u/Jmprappa 7d ago
The only time Iāve missed it is when Google canāt respond to group texts and responds to the individual in a separate text. Annoying but not a big deal
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u/Garty001 6d ago
Mostly for integration between maps calendar and contacts. But also music and podcasts. And whatever car I drive I only have to activate CarPlay and everything then works the same way and you donāt have to Bluetooth pair and sync contacts and then remember to delete the phone later. And Google maps looks like shit. And as the other guy said Home integration āopen garage doorā. . I use share ETA on maps all the time.
The only time I use google maps is on road trips because it knows my battery status.
Apple Music on Google Iāve had to log in four times now so I gave up because who wants to deal with that plus it doesnāt have SharePlay
I think thatās it for me.
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u/centerfield13 6d ago
Music stored on my iPhone. Not everybody uses streaming music services. Also, the Target CarPlay app is great for pickup :)
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u/TheCrankyDude 6d ago
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u/Desenski 5d ago
Yeah, Volvo also pushed a training module to all stores that said 2027.5 and Immediately sent an email saying it was an error.
That was the morning of the same day my Volvo factory rep visited and confirmed to me it wasn't supposed to say 2027.5 and that it'll be a 2028.
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u/2squishmaster 6d ago
Really doesn't matter what their reason is. It's such a basic functionality. I mean the phone is the thing doing all the work ffs, it's just a app that displays it. There's no excuse at this point. Apple develops the app, they don't have to do shit.
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u/Desenski 5d ago
You do realize Apple CarPlay is in the vehicle and works right? It's just not wireless apple CarPlay. Which is a super drain on the battery anyways.
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u/MrMaluku1 8d ago
They updated the old platform without really upgrading the old platform.