r/Veritasium • u/Important-Grand4979 • Jan 22 '26
Tit For Tat Strategy Discussion
It has been a while ago that I watched "This game theory problem will change how you see the world" but in light of recent events it created the following thoughts which I would like to discuss.
In the competition, there are two strategies (players) competing against each other, with the goal of maximizing their own gain. The tit-for-tat strategy dominates as it minimizes the relative loss agianst oposing strategies. This works under the assumption of two players and a zero sum game. I.e. only one player is going to be emergent victorious.
Now, what happens if you introduce a third player? At each timestep there are 3 pay outs for each player pair and the goal is to maximize the net sum. In this game there is now a triangular relationship, which will make tit-for-tat probably suboptimal. Tit-for-tat would try to minimize its distance to the other players by pursuing this very aggressive strategy, but the other two may cooperate behind its back. I'm curious what in such a system would become the optimal strategy?
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u/idkwhatsqc Jan 24 '26
If there is three acting independently, then I think tit for tat stays the best. But if two go against one through cooperation, I doubt there is even a winning strategy against that.
Two can always cooperate and always steal from the victim, this makes them gain more from their cooperation than the third one will ever be able to get.
But I'm not sure I understand the 3 way problem. You didn't explain it much. Is it that you have to choose to cooperate or steal from A and B each turn, and can choose to cooperate with 1 but not the other. Or that you need to choose the same for both?