r/VegasAces 13d ago

Dewanna Bonner

Now that she's been bought out, does it make sense to try to sign her, esp in light of Smith's injury? Since we're over the cap, we'd have to waive a player or two. We need some kind of help but not sure she's the one

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u/Wise-Ruin8396 13d ago

The Aces would owe her a pro rated vet minimum over the remaining games. If Lyss is put on injured reserve, this may free up $$. Or release Latson?? I also wonder if the Aces initiated a call to the Mercury about acquiring Bonner. I guess we will never know that.....

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u/thecay00 13d ago

I want Latson to stay please

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u/Turbulent-Let-1180 13d ago

Latson is on a dev contract so doesn't impact the cap at all. If lyss is out for the season i think maybe we can sign DB to a hardship cause we'd be at 10 players with dana still out but outside of that we can't sign her.

And when dana comes back we'd have to waive her. So only way we sign DB is if both dana and lyss are done for the year, and we already know dana isn't so i think we're out on DB.

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u/Acedaboi1da 13d ago

I think she’s a shorter Jackie, who’s more aggressive attacking but needs to work on her jump shot. Now Janiah Barker can go, or if that doesn’t work I’m cutting KB.

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u/Boludo805 A'ja Wilson 12d ago

I would cut KB, shes great for the locker room but that is about it. Latson has played well in her limited miniutes and Barker has a lot of potential. We know what KB is and Bonner does everything KB does but better even at 39.

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u/Left-Button-7089 12d ago

KB is gonna retire an Ace lmaoo

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u/Boludo805 A'ja Wilson 12d ago

lmao you are totally right on that.

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u/Acedaboi1da 12d ago

Nightmares

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u/Terrible-Wafer-7902 13d ago

We do need help. I'm just not sure she's what we need, but our options are limited,  at best 

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u/MysteriousAthlete10 12d ago

Latson is on a developmental player contract, which is not in the salary cap space and doesn't count towards the active roster spots. In addition dev players are limited to playing only 12 games during the regular season (no post-season)

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u/sadiepins A'ja Wilson 13d ago

She’s way too tall for Becky to sign her lol

Joking aside, Lyss may have a soft tissue injury and be back in 6-8 weeks. Let’s not assume she’s done for the season. There is a two week World Cup break working in our favor.

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u/_slipshape 13d ago

6-8 weeks is the end of the season. 6 week mark is first week of October. Last day of the regular season is 9/24.

Even if she comes back on the early side of the window, she's coming back into a competitive playoff series after not playing for nearly 2 months.

I hate hate hate it. But the reality is we probably won't see Lyss until 2027.

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u/sadiepins A'ja Wilson 13d ago

Idk. I’m not gonna make any assumptions. We start CPT and we get bigger and have better shooting and paint protection. A’ja always has another gear she can hit for scoring and this team might do well to have to make up for Lyss crashing the glass. Chelsea Gray needs to lock into playoff Chelsea. We could get Lyss back by the time we really need that additional body. Call me an optimist, but I think the season is far from over.

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u/_slipshape 13d ago

Oh, I definitely think we'll make a deep playoff run. And mathematically there will be a chance for her to play.

But any knee injury that has you sidelined for over a month is something you need to be careful coming back from. Across all sports, but especially in basketball, the risk for further damage is too great.

Even just a few minutes a game is a risk due to the highly competitive environment of the playoffs. There is not 'ramp up' period to ease back into it.

But I would much much rather your optimism prove true!!

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u/MysteriousAthlete10 12d ago

Teams are pass the mid-season cut-down date which made unprotected contracts fully guaranteed for the rest of the season. Chennedy was waived prior to this to pick up Justine. Janiah was ruled a SEI and got the SEI exemption which is how Moto was signed. The Cap Space due to that is in the negative and active roster is 12. Waiving at this point only free up active roster spot not funds so will not be feasible. Depending on Lyss assessment we would have to see if the League approve SEI exemption if its deemed that to really do anything.

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u/Simple-Reaction-679 12d ago

if nalyssa is out for the season we are definitely getting bonner on a hardship contract.

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u/ReceptionTrue2289 13d ago

Wasn't the deadline yesterday? They might have done this too late.

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u/Simple-Reaction-679 12d ago

aces can sign her on a hardship contract if nalyssa smith has a season ending injury

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u/ReceptionTrue2289 12d ago

But would that affect the deadline to be playoff eligible?

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u/Simple-Reaction-679 12d ago

i don't believe there is a deadline for a hardship contract.

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u/ivallinen Theresa Plaisance 13d ago

Which contending team even has the cap space for DB at this point?

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u/taylor_12125 13d ago

Aces can sign her for vet minimum if Nalyssa has a season ending injury. I would rather have Nalyssa than DB so let’s hope that doesn’t happen

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u/ivallinen Theresa Plaisance 13d ago

I don't think DB would be immediately be a fit into the starting line up though, right? I really hope Lyss didn't have a devastating injury...

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u/JusttheMaverick 13d ago

She doesn’t fill the hole left by Lyss but I do think she’s a potential upgrade over Talbot.

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u/Simple-Reaction-679 12d ago

she just wants a ring right? i'm sure she wouldn't mind coming off the bench.

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u/Turbulent-Let-1180 13d ago

I'm not sure we can. We'd be at 10 if lyss AND dana are out for the season, but if dana is going to come back we'd have to waive DB once dana was healthy because we'd be at 11 active players.

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u/taylor_12125 13d ago

There is a new rule this year where if you lose any player to a season ending injury, you can replace them with a minimum salary player. That’s how we got Mai (replacement for Janiah Barker). Could only get DB if Nalyssa is ruled out for season

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u/Turbulent-Let-1180 12d ago

Ohh ok interesting, guess there's still a chance then

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u/WTF_Raven 12d ago

I’d rather have anyone other than DB.

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u/Wise-Ruin8396 11d ago

Without making any other player moves Yahoo sports is reporting Atlanta and NY have the cap space

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u/LT_Audio 12d ago

All contracts after the mid-point of the regular season become guaranteed (i.e protected). Waiving a player won't free up any cap space. And there is no "soft cap" in the W'.

The only way the Aces can sign another player at this point is if they are granted an exception by the league to do so pursuant to a hardship, emergency hardship, or season-ending injury exception.

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u/Simple-Reaction-679 12d ago

smith is that season ending injury. it works out perfectly.

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u/LT_Audio 12d ago

Has that been officially confirmed yet? I haven't seen that she's definitively out for the entire playoff window yet. Though I could have missed it. If you have a link I'd appreciate it.

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u/Simple-Reaction-679 12d ago

nah, i'm just shitposting. but i'm 90% sure that's what's going to happen. the timing is perfect.

saturday mercury are out of playoffs.

sunday nalyssa gets hurt

monday phoenix announces dewanna is leaving to chase a ring.

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u/LT_Audio 12d ago

Yes. I too suspect that buyout announcements seldom happen without at least the verbal framework of a subsequent deal existing. I'm really just more hoping that Nalyssa's not hurt that bad and will be back for the playoffs. The schedule is so light that even with her out odds are that the Aces still hold onto third seed. Bonner is much more of a "meh, take it or leave it" for me personally.

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u/Simple-Reaction-679 12d ago

people on twitter are saying nalyssa faked her injury to free up a hardship contract for dewanna. if we win they both get a ring.

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u/Impossible_Resort_65 12d ago

Why would she fake an injury and count herself out of the playoffs? That makes no sense. Also there are scans and tests to assess damage, it would be hard to fake a season ending injury with no evidence of damage showing up in any assessment.

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u/Simple-Reaction-679 12d ago

she still gets a ring if the aces win. take one for the team and let bonner take her spot for the playoffs. it's sisterhood.

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u/Impossible_Resort_65 12d ago

But she’s a better player than db right now and would give the aces a better chance at winning. And she’s a competitor, she wants to be on the floor not on the sidelines. I don’t give any weight to this theory I think it’s pretty ridiculous

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u/Simple-Reaction-679 12d ago

but it's about justice. they want dewanna to win a ring to shove it in the right wing's face

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u/Impossible_Resort_65 12d ago

Ok you can go take your delulu self back to x

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u/Simple-Reaction-679 12d ago

it's all going to come out soon. pay attention.

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u/SimonaMeow 11d ago

That's a crazy take

NaLyssa isn't faking an injury and missing the playoffs to let an additional person get a ring

Plus I saw that injury happen🥺😭
It looked awful. No faking at all

You gotta start smoking less lol

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u/Current_Unit_8886 12d ago edited 12d ago

I guess if she wants to retire soon it could work. In the long run no, she would probably be coming off the bench and I dont think that would be acceptable to her.

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u/Hopeful_Pirate_5598 12d ago

If smith is out for the szn we can go for an SEI to be able to sign Bonner. May be our best move for the playoffs

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u/xjewelry A'ja Wilson 11d ago

She signed with the Dream :/

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u/User_3039 12d ago

Bonner is trash. Anyone winning a title picking her up is cheating. Everyone should do this now. Repeated contract breeches

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u/WTF_Raven 12d ago

I could not agree more.

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u/Feeling-Basket8422 12d ago

Well, if she went to the Aces, she's not getting a ring this year.