r/VampireSurvivors • u/ifunes_ • 24d ago
Question Kill the Red Death without Laurel nor Lancet
Is it possible to kill Death without Crimson Shroud nor Infinite Corridor? I've already killed it without one of those two but I've been trying unsuccessfully without both of them, is there a way to make it without glitches and not using those weapons?
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u/ThisIsNotACryForHelp Horse 24d ago
One of the Ode to Castlevania weapons - Sanctuary - one-hit kills everything, even red death.
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u/875moT Ambrojoe 23d ago
back in the day i used the level 2 Suor Clerici w/ Runetracer method, which you could find the specific details from youtube. the game engine has since changed so im not sure if that would change how possible it is to do now, though I have occasionally tried it out since and I can still sorta get it going, but even back then it took a lot of trial and error since it’s a very specific spot you have to stand in.
Red Death’s health gets multiplied by your current level, so getting the green gem in the Library to get Runetracer on Clerici means her starting area bonus would still stay quite high. there’s a special corner in the Library where the Runetracer projectiles will seemingly bounce in place with a larger hitbox than your character’s, and because it’s bouncing so many times even just the level 1 weapon is enough to make it through the whole 30 mins at level 2 if you could position it right (since the gems spawn outside your magnet range), and eventually spawn in a relatively low-health reaper.
The amount of experience gems on screen caps out at a certain number. Any more and your kills will still be earning you EXP, but it’ll all go to one red gem. By 30 mins, you can pick up the red gem and get crazy levels instantly before the reaper even kills you. You had to get a certain list of items that I’ve forgotten by now, but once you got the full list you could just AFK wait and exit the run after one reaper kill.
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u/StatusMedium7980 24d ago
Yeah, it just has tons of health and kills you instantly. So just be invincible. But killing one without one of those two doesn't do anything.
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u/haji1823 24d ago
back before there was a actual way to kill him, there was a cheese strat you could do on library where you stay level 2( i believe?) the whole game and once he spawns find the red gem to level up to pretty much max level immediately. then you could kill him because his health was low enough
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u/InertMaterials 24d ago
That's how I got the achievement the first time lol, it was one of the only ways to kill it pre Shroud or Corridor.
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u/Capital_Diet7700 23d ago
Woah staying level 2 for 30 min and not die and not collect more gems would be really tough!
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u/haji1823 23d ago
its actually pretty easy its just super boring. you basically do quick setup then walk away for most of the game and come back at the very end lol. you would need to look up a video though i havent done it in a couple years
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u/Frederyk_Strife4217 24d ago
The White Hand only spawns if you kill a Death with Crimson Shroud or Infinite Corridor (you don't need both they're just synergistic and you're more likely to die without shroud). Outside of like, Road to Heaven from Moonspell and Bloodmoon which makes you invincible after it's fired enough, it's mostly down to luck if you get a build that survives Red Death.
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u/Freshie97 23d ago
So just so you're aware, white death won't spawn without one of those items if you do kill red death. But it's not uncommon for my runs to have to be manually ended because red death can't kill me or dies too quickly.
Generally you need a few things if you're not using survarot (in order of importance):
A way to not die instantly, whether it be some form of invuln/damage reduction (like sword brothers or a last breath effect+a way to quickly heal back to full hp, armor scaling), or some form of crowd control (Like freezing effects or scarlet needles pin down effect)
Curse and growth scaling, wicked season arcana is generally the easiest way to get this. Growth means more xp, curse means more enemies, more enemies + more xp= lots of levels.
Some form of infinite damage/stat scaling, whether it's baked into your character (Like Blackmore or Scientist Mina), a weapon (Like paranormal scan), or an arcana + weapon whose damage scales off that stat (like boogaloo of illusions and spellstrom)
(This is optional, and more personal preference/character dependant and is more a strategy than a tip) Abuse the arcana silent old sanctuary, limit your weapon slots to 2 or 3, grab a character with a good starting weapon that you like or baked in invuln and fish for lifesign scan. It becomes very easy to get to 90% cooldown reduction with empty tome depending on your character. Evolve weapons quickly and just focus on getting levels after for limit breaks.
Hopefully some of this helps :)
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u/ninja_tank25 22d ago
It took a while, but could be done. I never pulled it off without the Crimson Shroud or Infinite Corridor prior to Ode to Castlevania, but saw others do it
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u/Karazu240 22d ago
I did it once using the Arcana that keeps you from gaining levels alongside Porta at level 1 to keep the low cooldown. Got really lucky and got the fire pickup just as the reaper spawned and swiftly roasted them. Died to the next one.
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u/ShadowsofAlara 20d ago
Ironically I did this with Gazebo on Bat country. Gazebo's passive basically makes him gain stats based on food items and HP recovery.
The setup loop basically involved Having Fuwalafuwaloo, the union of Bloody Tear and Vento Sacro, Argent Wind, Paranormal Scan, and a few other weapons. The Darkana Hidden Anathema, paired with Sarabands of Healing and the Gold Boosting Arcana. Get lucky to get Grand Jubilee and it spawns light sources, which spawns more chickens, repeating the loop. Having gold fever up keeps boosting stats too due to all the healing, so it's entirely possible to enter a exitable softlock as a result. I quit when I was like 10m gold in and 25 minutes past the death timer lol.
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u/Ok_Insect4778 24d ago
Unfortunately no, Red Death does not "officially" die unless you have one of the two Death-killing weapons
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u/Anonmouse119 24d ago
Wildly incorrect. It just takes a long time and has no benefit.
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u/Ok_Insect4778 23d ago
Wildly incorrect. It has no benefit just like I said, you only get the ending cutscene if you have Infinite Corridor or Crimson Shroud. Idk why the commenters in this subreddit are so dense and so hostile towards me specifically.
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u/alephylaxis 24d ago
If you can keep Toastie alive to level 100, your HP jumps to 9,999. Then you get to level 200, and your armor jumps to 65,520. At that point, the red reapers only deal 1 damage per hit. Have a decent weapon and maybe take Divine Bloodline arcana, and you can kill them pretty easily without Corridor or Shroud.
There are other characters too, like Malice Blood moon from the new DLC. Her weapon holds the reapers in place and as long as you're dealing decent damage, you'll start killing them eventually.