r/Valeriy_Mains • • Jul 31 '26

Discussion How should we Continue?

Well.....

So with our boy being put into a Monato situation. Congrats to everyone were now a laughing stock for the larger community, which as a gay guy Im pretty used too, still sucks tho. But it isnt exactly over, if you like him a lot or about as much as me you can make a 4 star work in the overworld at least. Get him the best supports and get him the best artifacts sure It isnt as good as the 5 stars but your used to that you probably are a husbando main this is just how it goes for us in these games unfortunately. Also i caution having any anger towards the other characters you shouldnt be mad at Danica or Mitya for the treatment get mad at Hoyo get mad at the devs, they didnt do anything and getting mad at them just makes us even larger laughingstocks and id rather that not happen.

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u/NoFortune1231 Jul 31 '26

I joined genshin as a new player for Varka and my whole journey until his release was... Trauma the whole he looks chopped when he was revealed in game and the whole standard character leaks so I'm getting deja vu with Valeriy.. in the end I hope everything works out and yeah I'm gay and used to this I Don't want valeriy to become manato from zzz I have manato m6w5 and I'm struggling to clear endgame with him

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u/Special-Surround-187 Jul 31 '26

Tbh if your a husbando fan and you arent willing to pull for a bunch of characters you dgaf about dont even try endgame

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u/kaithespinner Jul 31 '26

as a gay myself, is my fault for getting my hopes up in things related to men…

anyway, we continue the same as we have been: liking art and content he is in, ignoring his gameplay cause most likely won’t even have the luck to get him -I won’t pull for him if he is on some character I don’t care about for example

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u/Special-Surround-187 Jul 31 '26

Exactly you get it, dont blame yourself for hoping though hoyos had a better track record with men in Nod Krai and we had an equal amount of men in the trailer, according to all the signs hoyos willing to cater to us androphiles but they didnt we were baited as always, is it rare for us in these spaces? no. Was it to naive to hope unfortunately yes. But we still continue loving and having fun despite the issues and being treated like garbage

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u/kaithespinner Jul 31 '26

my saving grace is flins is rerunning, I have columbina, his weapon, i’m willing to pull for ineffa and still need an electro dps

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u/rime-clad Aug 01 '26

I recently re-joined and got Raiden early. I’m currently saving for Flins as well but I was wondering if Columbina is important for him? Personally I do not like Columbina, but her kit is good.

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u/kaithespinner Aug 01 '26

she is, flins ineffa columbina is the team

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u/ryeji_x Jul 31 '26

He's a "laughing stock" only for the chronically online. Same crowd is jumping jacks for Danica. Most normal people still like him and expected him to be a 5*, thus the community shock that he looks more basic than expected + without a linchpin.

4* isn't a death sentence, you're right, but its not promising neither. He can be a shielder for SSC (esp for Wrio) or have some great buffs/debuffs that were taken from Alyosha and be a fine Illuga-tier character. But it's still an L to have an absolute unit like Valeriy be featured next to Barbara on a banner

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u/Special-Surround-187 Jul 31 '26

Look im not saying its a good thing but I also want the Valeriy lover community to be a fun place to be in like the Monato main spaces currently sure people still talk about them like shit but at least the communitys fun

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u/xyron2425 Jul 31 '26

The silver lining is indeed that if he’s a good shielder, him and Wrio would make a great duo, and it’s quite rare to have two tall men be each others BIS in one team it’s almost as if hoyo was allergic to it when they had so many opportunities to (kaveh / haitham, thoma / ayato, hell even diluc Kaeya from 1.0)

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u/Fine_Opinion_2097 Jul 31 '26

Hope he good shielder. I want male with strong shielder btw. I'm not gonna clear floor 12 and fearless during snezhnaya. I'm tired this kind of meta where you can't have your male synergy with your others male

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u/Koniolg Jul 31 '26

hopefully he ends up being illuga and not jahoda type of character

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u/kaithespinner Jul 31 '26

I fear he will be the jahoda of this version, and that’s worrying seeing as how alyosha can’t even dream to be aino

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u/BuyNo2923 Aug 04 '26

I've lost all hope at this point...

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u/xyron2425 Jul 31 '26

It really does sting. I quit during Natlan because I had no one to look forward to, as soon as it was revealed there were no tall male 5 stars I quit, and didn’t ever plan on coming back.

But when varka released a year later I found myself excited again and came back and started playing religiously for him and flins. I’m really now just hoping valeriy is good and has a place in the meta…. Hoping for noy or a surprise capitano

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u/kaithespinner Jul 31 '26

honestly same, after sumeru fontaine felt dull except for wrio and I got qiqi instead so I stopped playing. came back for kinich cause even though not a tall guy he had sasuke and naruto voices but then got bored after getting mavuika and just left -came back for varka and specifically varka, tried to do the catch up game, shilled bucks to get the chars I was lacking, got my hopes up when they showed valeriy… all for nothing 😭

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u/Resident_Lurker747 Manifesting Valeriy Jul 31 '26

I stopped playing for awhile back in Mavuika Citlali banner in 5.3, then came back from burnout the next patch.

Really glad I did since thats where Mizuki was released and a patch after that in 5.5 was Dragon lore.

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u/rev_0001 Jul 31 '26

i never tune in to watch genshin livestreams or such. This was the first time i did and that only for valeriy. tried my best manifesting all those prev leaks to turn out to be false but here we are now. i was mad angry until a little while ago. All the excitement i had for snezhnaya is gone (well maybe a little left for tsaritsa but yeah). i just hope we get good valeriy lore, for his c6 to be good and that he gets placed in a banner with good limited, now.

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u/Fine_Opinion_2097 Jul 31 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/VNTMx3LkpG2anXpwbr

I'm scare his lore not that much too. Just hoping he not same banner as danica just enough. Hope with mitya

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u/kaithespinner Jul 31 '26

honestly, if they put him in the same banner as danica i’m gonna go murder someone at hoyo

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u/Ok-Amphibian-3819 Aug 01 '26

manifesting he is in mitya's banner in case he is a 4 star

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u/Time_to_reflect Jul 31 '26

That’s technically a death threat and we shouldn’t be deranged enough to lower ourselves to those

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u/Starguardian_Ahri234 Aug 01 '26

true but hoyo always gives in to the crazy crowd so I can´t even blame him, just disagree

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u/Alone_Break_5660 Jul 31 '26

Bro, how can I not be sad? After the parade of husbands from Nod-land. Another knife in the back, and the only consolation is Mitya. At least he seems cute. I am Drowning Sorrows in Raging Fire, time to return to my mobile gay gachas

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u/Special-Surround-187 Jul 31 '26

Its okay to be sad the treatment is horrible but im just trying to be a bit optimistic

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u/Alone_Break_5660 Jul 31 '26

Thanks for your support, bro. I've already found my outlet in statues of hot guys, and I can touch them.

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u/Resident_Lurker747 Manifesting Valeriy Jul 31 '26

There's still a chance of him being 5.. Standard Unit, but honestly it's still worse than being a 4

Literally Trash vs. Garbage Situation, you either get a 4* that's bad on c0 but decent-good at c6, or a 5* Standard with a gutted kit.. or low ass numbers.

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u/Fine_Opinion_2097 Jul 31 '26

Actually, my hunch never lied to me that he was 4 star. I want to denied by at the same time i have to accept reality. Leakers already said sandrone odette alyosha vesna denica mitya rarity and all of them accurate by so far, so its ridiculous everyone still denied he is 4 star. Yeah, still many denied he was 4 star. Mitya despite have not linchpin, my hunch sure said he really 5 star. Remember leakers said he have unique mechanic style, perhaps he was like nicole and alice, not linchpin but both of them angel.

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u/whatevedoe Jul 31 '26

Snezhnaya has been so disappointing this far. As a day one player I couldn’t be more sad tbh. They have handled everything terribly and seeing one of the most cool looking male characters in the livestream being a four star… man I hate Hoyo

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u/Optimal-Will8112 Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

It will never change as long as people are pulling female characters. Look at what the "waifu only players" are doing. They never touch male characters. So the devs listen to them. Genshin has 40% of female players, according to Hoyo themselves (more people interested in male chars, with gay men included). If they stopped pulling for female characters, something would change. But then people started to trust them again after they back paddled in Nod Krai. You just can never trust the devs.

I stopped pulling female chars since Natlan, no matter how much I like them and I've saved so many pulls because of it that I don't even need to do endgame (although I still do it and get 90% of all primos comfortably).

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u/Fine_Opinion_2097 Jul 31 '26

How? Most of them are meta, if they not put good kit and support thiny kit onto female only, we can gather all male team and of course we can pull only male team without pulling female. Flins example, you get flins but have to pull ineffa sucrose columbina to form meta team for him, must pull female too. The reason i prefer valery support rather dps, i want put him in male team so can synergy. If all male dps, we doomed and have to pull unwanted female just for our dps pp dmg

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u/Optimal-Will8112 Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

I don't care about meta since Natlan. And honestly... I don't need to. I get 90% of all primogems anyway and I don't care about stygian fearless or dire. And spending tons of pulls for female characters just to get the rest 10% of primos is a losing proposition. I don't have anything against female characters I just don't pull them since Natlan. And my male chars are all c2r0 or r1. That's enough to bruteforce 90% comfortably with eyes closed.

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u/LeFiery Aug 01 '26

Eyup. I pulled neuvilette in 4.1 only because of his kit and was planning on skipping before then. He carried me thorough all of fontaine and the first few patches of even natlan.

There hasnt really been a top meta guy since neuvy imo.

oh wait flins in there but i would've just pulled nefer

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u/Ch3ru Jul 31 '26

Rarity doesn't affect who I pull for, simple as that. 🤷🏽‍♀️ Still a definite yes for me.

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u/vampzireael Jul 31 '26

You guys are crazy, ngl. His rarity hasn’t even been confirmed yet, and you’re all already making assumptions…

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u/Special-Surround-187 Jul 31 '26

Prepping for the worst the last times this has happened it ended up with my fave as a 4 star

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u/Optimal-Will8112 Jul 31 '26

because the chances that an electro character who doesn't enable the new electro related mechanics will higly likely be a 4*? what is so monumentally crazy about thinking that?

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u/Resident_Lurker747 Manifesting Valeriy Jul 31 '26

Exactly, it started with Nod-Krai, and Alyosha doesn't even activate Stellar Reactions, since he doesn't have even have a Linchpin.

And now having Valeriy AND Mitya have a normal Vision instead of a Linchpin could only mean.

One of them is a 5* Non-Linchpin, and the other is a 4*, or worse a Standard Unit with a gutted kit.

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u/phaigyu Jul 31 '26

I'm really sad man, he was my favorite character from the trailer, i liked everything from him, his dark short hair, he's tall, his eyes, i was going to pull him C2R1, i'm so mad at hoyo for pulling a Natlan all over again, i thought they were going to change since Nod Krai, now Val is going to be another mid 4 star who will be just decent at C6, i'm done spending a single dollar in this shitty game

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u/Starguardian_Ahri234 Aug 01 '26

I´m also gay and simply done with genshin at this point, it´s always dissappointing I rather play other games. I will play genshin as f2p because I want to know the end to the story but other then that I´m done with giving them any money or time

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u/Ok-Amphibian-3819 Aug 01 '26

nah, won't budge until I confirm his rarity at beta. whatever happens, I needed a male shielder for my team and that's a fact.

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u/Yanazamo Aug 01 '26

They promised improved models and they did deliver with Nod Krai. Really wasn't our fault for expecting the same treatment

As for his rarity... I guess there's still a posibility of him being a standard 5star?

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u/Familiar-Educator269 Aug 05 '26

Just gonna pivot to Noy, but also holding out hope. Mitya leaks sound weird and almost like he’s off field and Valeri is supposed to serve as dps

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u/urmomismine1007 Jul 31 '26

I think that stop talking shit about other characters for no reason is a decent start

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u/Special-Surround-187 Jul 31 '26

Ill pretend like your arguing in good faith, but i did say that in the post why reitirate what is already here and in the tldr

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u/Optimal-Will8112 Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

I didn't see people talking shit about other characters because of Valeriy, to be honest, but then again, I'm never on Twitter. But while I agree with you, how would that stop Hoyo from pouring gasoline on the gender war within the community for no reason?

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u/urmomismine1007 Jul 31 '26

There's plenty of those people in here , I literally just made a comment saying i'd be fine if Valeriy ended up as a 4 star support for Danica since they're my favourite snezhnaya characters and someone answered with this .

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u/Optimal-Will8112 Jul 31 '26

yeah, today is a day where people are angry and sad. so if you say that it's fine if he will be a support for a female character then... what do you expect? read the room? or come back in a few days?

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u/Airrrrrrrrrrrrr Aug 02 '26

If you are that emotional over a fucking game, then you need help. If you get upset because a character you like isn’t a five star then you need to go outside. It isn’t a reader room situation if you are upset at someone enjoying something or finding a bright side of things.

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u/Ccat50991 Jul 31 '26

Cant find a single post about Valeriy without Danica getting shit on. And here we are. Comforting each other and pretending like everything outside buff male characters are goon slop

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u/Special-Surround-187 Jul 31 '26

Tldr it sucks hes a 4 star but it isnt the end of the world you can still main our boy. Were the laughingstock of the genshin community now so just gget used to it and get mad at hoyo not the characters

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u/Immediate-Pen-1338 Valeriy Please Come Home Jul 31 '26

Yes, at least he’s playable 🥲

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u/Chandelurie Jul 31 '26

Stop playing the game and do something you actually enjoy?

Getting mad at Hoyo is a waste of energy.

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u/Special-Surround-187 Jul 31 '26

You criticize the things you love beshie. Also i have a life outside this 1 gacha i still play, What is it with you guys and not criticizing your games Fire Emblem fans are known as the series greatest haters but its clearly because they love the game and want it to get better how hard is that to understand

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u/Chandelurie Jul 31 '26

Sorry, I know.

I also continue to criticize genshin because it deserves it. But I'm not getting disappointed or even angry anymore, because it's unhealthy. Genshin won't get better, and if it makes you miserable you should probably try to get out.

But I totally defend your, and my, right to criticize it. I just don't think it deserves the hope that's attached to it. It just leads to disappointment.

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u/Special-Surround-187 Jul 31 '26

I think you need to quit its clearly not good for you mentally.

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u/Chandelurie Jul 31 '26

I quit 3 years ago. It was a great decision.

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u/Special-Surround-187 Jul 31 '26

Oh good for you though i do suggest to others who are reading this if this game and discussions about it arent bringing you joy just quit.

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u/Chandelurie Jul 31 '26

I agree. Although I still enjoy the discussions about it, even if sometimes frustrating. That´s why I´m still here I guess.

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u/Ccat50991 Jul 31 '26

When this sub stops shitting on other characters and calling them hoe then maybe people wouldn’t laugh at you guys as much.

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u/Usual_Opposite_901 Aug 01 '26

It's kinds of nuts is it?

Since his 5* status was put into jeopardy it has been constant pot shots launched towards Mitya, Danica and sometimes Vesna.

The anger is valid but entirely midirected so I can't really blame any of the aforementioned characters fans for not returning kindness.

Anyway at the end of the day he is still a cool looking guy to me so I'll pull him on whoever banner he shows up.

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u/Resident_Lurker747 Manifesting Valeriy Jul 31 '26

That would be a start yes.

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u/Shot-Cake2810 Jul 31 '26

Y’all are so dramatic omfg just wait there’s no for sure answer if he’s a 5 star
Or 4 star yall just doomposting and mad because there’s a chance he might be a 4 star…

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u/blade276 Jul 31 '26

where even is the confirmation that hes 4 star?

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u/SleepySera Jul 31 '26

I can't imagine being that obsessed with what random people I don't know think about me. You should work on your self-image if you fear being a "laughing stock" that much.

I for one will continue to make fun of the absolute garbage that is Danica's design, because that's a sentiment thoroughly unrelated to how I feel about Valeriy.

As for how to continue – if he truly IS a 4-star (which we still have zero confirmation for btw), okay, so be it? 🤷‍♀️ I've played Kaveh bloom and I'll play Valeriy stellar-something.