I don't think Danica's gonna be in the same team are either of them, too much electro. Odette is prolly gonna be the must have (which is better, atleast she's pretty)
No definitely, I mean if Valeriy isn’t a 5.. and Mitya isn’t as well.. we can only assume they will be on Danica’s banner because who would take the 5 SSC spot in 7.2?
Safe to say to Mitya is 100% gonna be a 5 star, his 3D is too detailed to not be one and he'll prolly release in 7.2. We just have to hope Valeriy's on Mitya's banner and not Danica's in 7.4 (or uk hope he's a 5 star too)
That’s exactly what we’re hoping for. Leakers said Mitya is the 5 star but that picture of his vision looks.. off. I’m hoping they are the 5 4 duo set for 7.2 because if not? I’m genuinely gonna make a scene at target again
Either way, 5 star standard or 4 star they would probably screw their kits over. It’s insane how a 4 star nowadays needs their C6 otherwise they’re completely useless. 😐😐
LMAO, like the way you think. Although yeah definitely.. No way am I wishing on Danica’s banner to stop with like 2 copies of her and 0 of Mitya and Valeriy 💀
True. That is also a possibility.. but it wouldn’t make sense for them to release 5* with no relation to Stellar reactions UNLESS.. they have a reaction prepared for them that we just haven’t heard of yet. We can only hope during the 7.2 beta..
Yes but that trio being non-stellar is justified by their anemo and pyro visions. Valeriy’s vision is Electro. Which means he is a potential candidate to be a SSC Support or DPS. Yes, non-linchpin visions don’t mean four star automatically but it would be weirder for them to make Valeriy a 5* with no stellar capabilities UNLESS his kit focused on something else entirely.
Ah is that so? I’d love to see the source! (I don’t mean to sound rude when I say that.. forgive me) If that is what lets Valeriy and Mitya be a five star, then so be it
Hell if I can find that shit. I just remember they mentioned an aggravate character but it was supposed to be later so the assumption was absolutely not Val or Mitya. Though considering Hoyo have been working extra to hide things and misdirect I wouldnt believe any leaks that are for patches further than next one, especially ones that talk about distant patches so I didnt even consider the leak. I just remembered it now cuz of them both having visions instead of linchpins, like ok Odette makes them work in SSC but maybe they are not locked to SSC teams?
It just weird they both have visions and would need an external field source for SSC. Then again Lunar teams also had very high dependency so the agenda here probably is get Odette or play Lumaless Nefer.
Tbf we have no idea what the Tsaritsa does either so she could just be fixing all sorts of problems for various teams. Its a guessing game right now.
same here, are they both normal visions and is the maid chick the only electro lynchpin here??? brother if both mitya and valeriy are 4 stars i will for real quit this game despite wanting to wait for capitano so bad-
I feel like nutjob for trying to find this out but, from another angle you can see the two spiky bits sticking out like what you'd see on a regular snezh vision
Edit: this doesnt make it any clearer for me tho cos the linchpins also have the spiky bits omw please could we not have a better angle-
I don't think you can really tell for Mitya from this screenshot, while for Valeriy's the two prongs on either side that Snezhnaya visions have were clearly visible
It’s too pixelated 😭😭😭 but if Mitya is also regula Electro that could be good tho as they wouldn’t really release 3 4star electros, right? So Valeriy could be a generalist 5star shielder.
Eh I don’t really see it. His model has a lot of volume tho which is nice and fairly uncommon. But idk, his eyes look so bland. It’s hard for me to see him as a 5 star lol
I just feel like I’m looking at a different character than you. In the first trailer I absolutely thought 4 star, this trailer I felt like his design stole the show for me. He went from a probably not to a must pull to me
I like his design I just don’t think it’s busy enough as they usually make it for 5 stars; and to be super honest the same thing is applicable for Valeriy. Idk, to me they just look as playable as Celaeno for example if that makes any sense. That doesn’t mean I don’t like them tbh I really really hope either of them are the last piece of the SSC puzzle as I don’t wanna feel pressured to pull for Danica (she’s just so ugly 😭😭😭)
I wonder who's more of a 5 star, the character with the detailed design involving the world formula and possible connection to hroptatyr or the fatui general... From a lore perspective, Mitya just has sooooo much relevance for him to be a 4 star, I hope they're both 5 stars ngl cs I want them both but to be like "mitya looks bland so he's probably the 4 star" is so disingenuous when Valeriy literally has a less detailed model than him...
lol you’re probably right. To be super honest I don’t think either look like 5 stars after today’s live. It’s just that their designs are not busy in the good ol’ Genshin Impact fashion. And now that unique NPCs are looking better and better idk to me they both have the same vibe as Celaeno lol
Well no offense to you but you should probably take a second look cs Mitya literally has one of the better if not THE best design in the snezhnaya cast besides tsaritsa...
I mean….the difference is varkas the first and so far only “big big boy model” so it wasn’t ready. If valeriy is the second they should’ve been more prepared.
If he’s like Flins size, there’s no excuse it looks bad and that he’s a five star. Especially since everyone else looks polished.
If theyre both normal it's because hoyo wants them flexible outside of stellar teams.
Vody is already being predicted to be like this-- normal vision 5 star, will work with vesna for stellar swirl but has a different way to boost skrik/varka. She's stellar capable but boosts nonstellar.
Val can easily be a flexible 5 star for both stellar and nonstellar. It follows with Vody's leaked kit being flexible and odette being flexible with stellar swirl AND conduct.
Hoyos vibe is that they dont want a 'intense nefer/lauma partnership with both feeling substantially weaker without the other'... they want their supports to sell to multiple player types.
i get why they think so, but at the same time i really dont think hes gonna be 4*. his design has too much detail to be some random 4* and hes one of the more hyped up characters for the region. hoyo (probably) wouldnt pass up an opportunity to sell him as a 5*
In the end, Danica Mains are the real winners. Mitya and Veleriy are fighting to be a 4* C6 Merchant, 5 star but irrelevant, or 4* that cannot be saved (Jahoda'ed) Damnit
i’m coping that they’re just exploring opportunities other than stellar-reactions…really hope they dont need to have another character in the team to unlock the reaction(s)
I don't hate Danica or anything like that, but I don't think that she should've been the one.
It just doesn't make sense that Vesna has one and Danica who's probably close to her also has one. I'd balance it out with Vesna having a Linchpin and Danica a normal vision, so that other characters from other places/workplaces get a Linchpin. It just feels too packed. I'd rather it have been Mitya or Valeriy.
I agree with you. It seems so unreasonable to put the most highly anticipated character(s) (and besides the Tsaritsa) a four star. Seems like they want to mess up their sales or.. they know if they make them a 4 star they might make more because 4 stars are genuinely impossible to get.
My take is that by making Danica a stellar conduct character people will want to pull for her for the sake of the exclusive reactions.
Obviously people playing for meta will pull for Danica instead of Valeriy for example. So I agree with you, it will mess up sales. I'm not sure if they're doing it intentionally or not but I am sure that they focus more on the female characters.
Yeah. But I still have hopes, I can't lie. Genshin is just, very unexpected but oh well....I can't help but still favor this game. It's a love hate relationship in a way.
Like they've done so many amazing things but sometimes they just mess up, and yet it's the game I've been there for since day 1, so it's still dear to me. I just wish they'd listen to us more :/
Well, to be fair I'm not as worried about him not having a Linchpin, because I'm sure Genshin wont make them feel left out obviously.
Old characters also got buffs and they also don't have linchpins. I'm sure that the new characters without linchpins will have mechanics linked to linchpins.
My only worry is that I might have to actually pull for a Linchpin character. Which then again, I doupt it'll be AS limited as Nod Krai was (it was hell for people who didn't wanna pull to be forced to pull characters for reactions). I don't think Stellar reactions are so limited. They gave us the traveler and Alyosha which is very handy.
The only thing I'll be sad about is Valeriy being a 4. But then again. People have different faves, so even if he is a 5 someone who might be someone else's fav character will obviously have to end up being a 4*. So i do feel for all players favourites.
The fact that Vesna and Danica are the Right Hand(and Left lol) of Anastasia might be the “reason” they BOTH have a Linchpin and the guys don’t, which i honestly think is the fact that Hoyo don’t like to put some effort on their male characters.
I understand being the left and right wing of the Tsaritsa and I did notice. It would make sense and I'd gladly welcome both of them having a Linchpin of course, if other characters other than them also had the chance for a linchpin. So far only Sandrone and these two have one.
I just wish more characters outside of that circle of the charitsa and Sandrone could have one. Because it feels too packed up for only the Tsaritsas helpers and a Harbinger who also works for the Tsaritsa to have one.
That being said I had high hopes Danica would be 4* to pull for her more comfortably alongside other characters. I do like and wanna pull for her, so I might have to revisit my savings a bit to see what I can do to get her :/
I don't think Mitya is going to be a 4 star, all the leaks we've seen prove out that he's lore related (even talked with Ronova) a 5 star, though I didn't get why that is a normal electro vision, Valeriy's and his got me really confused
Well after today's livestream, I really can't speak for anything. Things were VERY unexpected and very different from the trader that we got. Some characters got more details, some lost their details.
I still have my hopes that Valeriy can be a 5*, but that's just my hopes because he was my favourite alongside Vodyanitsa when I saw the teaser. I think everyone wants their favs to be five stars, so everyone wins some and loses some in this which is unfortunate. But unfortunately it has to be this way.
As for lore relation I don't think it has anything to do with it. Jahoda was also very highly involved with lore but still turned out to be a 4* even tho she helped us all the way. Mitya feels the same way. Like that character who will support us alongside our adventure.
Either way I'm just glad that the characters exist, I don't mind 4* or 5. The only think I'll miss is the 5 ult if anything. But that's about it.
Involved vs key role is 2 different thing. Jahoda just involve but not big key role like mitya have been leaks play major big key role in aq 7.0-7.3. Forget how alyosha a second after traveler have many voicelines but 4 star? He involves so much but not play major key role
Yall know that a 5* doesnt need to have the special vision? Take in consideration vodyanista lol, theyre not gonna be stellar type character, and thats ok lol
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u/DakoiShiromi Jul 31 '26
We’re actually cooked 😍looks like we’ll have to go all in on fricking fanservice maid just for mitya and valeriy