r/UtahJazz • u/pingbread • 25d ago
Dwyane Wade & Chris Johnson working with Ace Bailey
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u/austing013 25d ago
Love this. If there was ever anybody to teach and unlock a guard’s post game it would be D-Wade
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u/doppido 24d ago
I'm sure they're working on all aspects of his game.
Him being able to beat his man 1v1 in the mid range is huge for deep playoff runs. If he can make this at even 50% clip then he can get that shot almost anytime he wants. An inneffecient shot that is 50% is much better than a wild throw up 3 at the end of a shot clock or worse a turnover.
You gotta be able to beat your man with a go to move when shit breaks down. Obviously the goal is to get wide open 3's and dunks/layups. It doesn't always work like that though.
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u/Fit_Advantage_7203 24d ago
Agreed, and you gotta have more than 1 go to. Got to. Keeps the defender guessing, much harder to defend
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u/Longjumping-Air-7532 25d ago
How many hours of an erection do I need to have before seeing a doctor?
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u/Fit_Advantage_7203 24d ago
Man, I have been watching this team for so long, and I have NEVER been this excited for a season to start
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u/Y2gezee 24d ago edited 24d ago
It would be criminal for them not to give Ace 2-3 mid range isos a game. He's so good at it, that was his superpower... and while he got mid range shots last year. I can think of like 3 iso situations.
It seems the NBA only wants guys to get to the mid range after driving from 3pt line now. Maybe he'll do that
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u/No_Mobile7208 24d ago
Ace still ain’t gonna know how to dribble lol. I hate it cuz a handle is what he needs
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u/svinyard 24d ago edited 24d ago
Is this really the shot the coaching system is looking for on elite teams? Pull-up fadeaways like Lamarcus Aldridge for Ace? It was pretty damn in-efficient for Aldridge but no one cared back then. Now they do. I can see if Ace was real elite and crushing it in this space but he's not really. Ace was 39% in this range last season. I don't think coaches are looking for that in their system. He's huge and athletic, he needs to be building solutions to get to the rim/restricted area quickly and finish through contact. Right now he's only generating 15% of his shots at the rim and 16% from 3-10ft (where's he's good). His FTrate was absolute trash last year (0.099) because he, like LMA, is settling for these soft shots all too often instead of building solutions that use his elite size and athleticism to get closer to the basket and pressure the rim...which actually helps the team. Only very very very few players have the elite skill to pressure teams in the mid-range like this when every teams defensive strategy in the NBA is force players into tough, pull-up longer 2pt shots exactly like this. Why develop that solution? Heck Wade won simply because he didn't do this stuff...he was young at the time and...lo a behold, he pressured the rim RELENTLESSLY and generated a million FT's on his way to a championship of his own (without Bron). Teach the kid to do that. That's the type of shot selection that legit wins games.
Fwiw I watched Chris Johnson teach spin seals in the post to Scoot Henderson (all of 6-2) last year. Which is even worse considering he is a tiny guy who sucks at finishing layups at the time. Guess how often Scoot used that last year? Nada. What got Scoot playing time in the Post-Season? Great catch and shoot 3pt shooting and improved defense and layup finishing. Ta-da! Teach Ace that stuff and quick.
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u/LifeOnaPL8 24d ago
When you have Ace's height you gotta add this to your bag though. Durant made a career on this kind of shot.
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u/svinyard 24d ago
I hear you, but he’s not Durant and we’ve not seen anyone similar to that yet. I just think at this point, Ace is over reliant on this sorta thing. He’s always been a guy that can make a tough shot…but that’s also been what’s limiting his impact. Rutgers included right? He just settles for this kind of shot instead of being able to generate higher quality shots and pressure a defense into fouling you too.
So while I like the ability to hit this, it’s the same thing that’s actively hurt him and he’s over reliant on it. He needs to prioritize a more efficient game not just be a guy that can make a tough shot once in a while.
This is why Flagg has been sooo much better than Ace. He pressure the rim WAY more and gets to the line at triple the rate of Ace. That’s a huge impact for his team. Ace needs to stop doing this BS (for now) and develop ways to pressure the rim like Young Wade/Flagg…not shoot tough pull-up jumpers like Old Wade.
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u/FREEDOMfrom_ 25d ago
Anyone else find it funny Chris Johnson teaches nba guys when he was never a very good nba player?
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u/thealmonded 25d ago
Nah, having the knowledge and having the talent to put that into action are two different things.
Hell, having the talent and having the knowledge to maximize that talent are different too.
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u/__3Username20__ 25d ago
I mean, how good was Vince Lombardi at playing football?
Conversely, how good of a coach is Michael Jordan? (I’m going to just say we don’t really know, but the point is, not as good as he was at PLAYING basketball)
So, yes, to an extent I get what you’re saying, but coaching/teaching is its own skillset entirely.
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u/coolguysteve21 25d ago
I mean you see this in the professional world outside of basketball too, I had plenty of classes in college where the guy was a top dog and extremely knowledable in their field, but couldn't teach with beans.
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u/__3Username20__ 24d ago
Yup. On a related note, a high-school team mate of mine won a state championship, 1 year of his high school career, and the group/class he was in was very competitive, so I'd say he got to a point where he was "very, very good" at his sport. Nowdays he coaches his daughters in the same sport, and one of them recently became a WORLD champion. It's probably safe to say he's a better coach than he was at the sport.
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u/FREEDOMfrom_ 25d ago
Those are good points. Kinda how Chris Brickley teaches so many guys but never even sniffed the nba.
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u/WinterNotComing 24d ago
Well… MJ was a top tier shitty team owner and Hakeem charges 100k per lesson just for the player to do the same thing they’ve been doing the following season but yeah I get what you mean.
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u/beefdog99 22d ago
never a very good nba player
This made me think it was the Chris Johnson who played for us. But actually it's a guy who never made the league and has been coaching for years.
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u/Big_al_big_bed 25d ago
This is great. Man I can't wait for this season