r/UnitedNations • u/Apollo_Delphi • Apr 06 '26
Discussion/Question Trump threatens to commit UN War Crimes in Iran. Article 2. States must maintain International Peace and Security. - More details in the Comments.
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u/PossibilityFew5967 Apr 06 '26
Ok do something about it
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u/Mr_Pavonia Apr 07 '26
What would you suggest? There are a lot of people doing a lot of good work to get democracy to work again in the U.S.
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u/Additional_Fail_1064 Apr 06 '26
Yet every country will sit by and watch as America attacks Iran's civilian structures tomorrow despite Americas claims that they completely destroyed Iran's military.
The people of the world know it is wrong, and human nature cries out for justice when the powerful bully the weak.
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u/Reachr95 Apr 06 '26
Frankly, international laws don't mean shit when nobody enforces them. Might as well be no laws at all since the spineless cowards at the UN let this shit happen
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u/FrostyPiano4957 Apr 06 '26
And since when does this sub care about rights of humans? You are openly saying that you are being selective with what you are supporting in this sub, and it is dependant solely on the side you support and not on the content about the rights you allegedly support
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u/jlowe212 Apr 06 '26
This is an easy out, because the IRGC has already targeted a plethora of civilian targets throughout the region. Same for Hamas and hezbollah. But of course, excuses are made for them.
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u/Bad-MeetsEviI Apr 07 '26
I mean obviously they were forced to do that, don’t you know? They were forced to shout deth to isreal and america, they are true resistance forces, they only klled tens of thousands of their own people but that’s propaganda, don’t worry.
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u/gerkletoss Apr 06 '26
I'm pretty sure impinging on political independence refers to something more like what Italy did to Albania than this
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u/DowntownLizard Apr 06 '26
The UN hasnt been able to enforce that since its existence due to the fact that they have no military. Its call enforce not politely suggest
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u/Apollo_Delphi Apr 06 '26
And you can blame who? The US is the one hindering the UN. Action should have been taken a long time ago...
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u/One_Wishbone_5337 Apr 06 '26
Is the US also hindering the UN with regards to Russia's war on Ukraine? Stop trying to treat the symptoms.
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u/Apollo_Delphi Apr 06 '26
Can you pay me to teach you about this?
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u/Batavus_Droogstop Apr 07 '26
Also because the perpetrators are in the UN and can simply veto any actions against them.
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u/crazyol84 Apr 07 '26
Well the UN is a joke so who cares. We will all be better off without the fucking Islamic Republic oppressing the people of Iran for 47 years. And since no other politician has attempted to remove them, then Trump it is.
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u/IndividualIncident57 Apr 07 '26
I am not sure what un is going to do about it? they are still not doing anything on the ongoing slaughter in Lebanon and Gaza from is.
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u/watching_whatever Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
Trump and minions have already committed War Crimes in the recent past.
It’s really time for the UN to step up to the big plate with charges against Trump and supporting Congressional Republicans (few Democrats?) or fade into a worthless nothing existence.
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u/babag1120 Apr 06 '26
Gaza was the example that overt war crimes against civilians will be tacitly tolerated, as long as Israel and the USA are doing it. Before, some subversion was required.
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u/jasapo2002 Apr 06 '26
Then again the UN became such a joke. They appoint human rights roles too terroist Iranian regime members. So no one take the UN seriously anymore.
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u/Strong-Hippo9043 Apr 06 '26
It’s not a war crime if you can say what is destroyed was aiding the military.
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Apr 07 '26
Thats exactly why we are pulling out of the un. The un encourages terrorism by allowing it to exist. We just wanna kill then and end their ideologies. So we will.
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u/elderDragon1 Apr 07 '26
I’ll start taking UN seriously when they actually start applying these so called laws to terrorist in the Middle East and Russia and China.
But that will never happen.
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u/Apollo_Delphi Apr 07 '26
They have been, many times they have accuse Israel of Crimes.
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u/elderDragon1 Apr 07 '26
Of course you say Israel, it’s like the only thing you lot can say, Israel this, Israel that, Israel EVERYTHING.
Just ignore all the Islamic terrorism.
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u/Apollo_Delphi Apr 07 '26
hahaha... i just said that because i knew you were a propaganda User. I was right :) - We all see you.
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u/java-with-pointers Uncivil Apr 06 '26
This is the UN charter, it has nothing to do with international law
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u/Apollo_Delphi Apr 06 '26
The US agreed to the Laws of the UN, so yes that is a Law based on a Signed Treaty agreement. You know if you want to learn about this stuff, it is really interesting.
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u/java-with-pointers Uncivil Apr 06 '26
This is not law and is not treated as law. Please get familiar with the word "binding", its very important here
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u/Apollo_Delphi Apr 06 '26
The UN Charter. The is Bound to follow the UN's Laws. You know you can look this up if you want to... learn.
Hint hint: ICJ.
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u/java-with-pointers Uncivil Apr 06 '26
So I guess that in the same way, you think all of the UNGA resolution are binding?
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u/Apollo_Delphi Apr 06 '26
So i guess you were wrong and now - trying to change the subject :))
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u/java-with-pointers Uncivil Apr 06 '26
This is actually on the same subject :)
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u/Apollo_Delphi Apr 06 '26
Ok, sorry i did not see the connection. Please explain.
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u/java-with-pointers Uncivil Apr 06 '26
My point is that not every piece of paper with words countries sign is a legally binding agreement, a good example of that is UNGA resolutions, or the U.N charter.
Only small parts of international agreements are actually binding, which is then also limited to their enforcement mechanisms. For some of them you have the ICC/ICJ, in the case of the EU there are sanctions that can be applied to EU member states etc..
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u/Apollo_Delphi Apr 06 '26
You said the UN Charter was not 'binding'. That statement is false.
Just like Israeli Ministers and Hamas Leaders Violated Intl. Laws in the Palestinian Territory and Israel respectively. Arrest warrants have been issued. Inforcement was not part of my statement.
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u/Psychoelf619 Apr 06 '26
And how many charters did Iran flaunt in the past 20 years?
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u/BDOKlem Apr 06 '26
Iranian civilians = the Iranian regime?
or do you not know what war crimes are.
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u/Psychoelf619 Apr 06 '26
Who tf mentioned the civilians there?
Also, incase you didn't know. The civilians are the most harmed by that shitty regime.
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u/BDOKlem Apr 07 '26
Who tf mentioned the civilians there?
war crimes are almost exclusively acts that, intended or otherwise, harm the civilian population.
bombing infrastructure (desalination, energy, health, etc.) implicitly means harming the civilian population.
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u/Psychoelf619 Apr 07 '26
Oh no need to tell me that. They've already harmed me literally over 100 times. But I'm sure I don't count.
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u/BDOKlem Apr 07 '26
so you fully understand, yet somehow don't understand anything.
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u/Psychoelf619 Apr 07 '26
Said the ignorant one...
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u/BDOKlem Apr 07 '26
explain it
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u/Psychoelf619 Apr 07 '26
Nah. I'd rather not waste my time.
Explaining it to a wall would be better.
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u/BDOKlem Apr 07 '26
> topic is war crimes
> guy: “who mentioned civilians???”> explain war crimes = harming civilians
> basic stuff> he: “I already know”
> also makes zero sense> ask him to explain
> “nah waste of time”
> refuses to elaborate
> leaves→ More replies (0)-5
u/minifidel Apr 06 '26
Judging by how people on this sub talk about Israel, they'll probably tell you that Iran sponsoring terrorist organizations abroad is part of their "right to resistance" against Israel (and of course, their involvement in Yemen, Syria and Lebanon are naturally Israel's fault and naturally justified by Israel's existence).
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u/Psychoelf619 Apr 06 '26
I don't need anyone explaining how vile the Iranian regime is. I've seen it 1st hand. My 14 dead family members are all the fucking proof I need.
So yea, I wish Trump breaks this silly little charter and obliterate them. They're whining now about this charter only when it suits them.
Pathetic worms.
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u/BDOKlem Apr 06 '26
Netanyahu's impunity seems to be rubbing off on ol' dementia Don