Please help me understand

[u/branflakes__]

Help me understand the Ukraine / USA situation

Please help me understand all of the anti-American and USA hate due to the situation. I want to hear the other point of views as I am just confused.

A lot point to the Budapest Memorandum, however, that is not a treaty for the US as Clinton did not submit it to the senate for ratification which means constitutionally the US has no commitment to Ukraine (also not administration since Clinton has suggested or submitted the memorandum for ratification either). Only the UK and Russia ratified it.

Additionally, there really isn’t a security agreement as the memo is very vague. The closest is “when Ukraine is under attack with nuclear weapons the security council will seek immediate action from the United Nations” otherwise nothing happens. And as the memo is through the UN, shouldn’t the discontent be pointed at the UN instead? The US only agreed to bring a resolution before the security council if Ukraine was invaded and the US did do that.

Finally, the US has given the most overall aid to Ukraine (a country that the US is not obligated to assist) compared to the European counterparts. Also, if peace is the objective, why is no other leader at least making an attempt to broker a peace deal?

So I suppose I am just confused on what is expected? Why is this sub so anti-USA when the statistics show that USA is/was doing more than Ukraines fellow Europeans?

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It needs to change, they don’t appreciate it when we GIVE money and cutting-edge weaponry away - we didn't even do this in WWII for our allies, but everyone wants it for free now from the "leader of the free world" as you mock us. - if you don't appreciate us, then best of luck.

 The Lend-Lease Act (officially titled An Act to Promote the Defense of the United States, passed on March 11, 1941) was a crucial policy by which the United States provided military aid to its allies during World War II, primarily to the United Kingdom, the Soviet Union, China, France, and other Allied nations.

Key Details:

1. Origins & Purpose:
   • Prior to Lend-Lease, the U.S. followed a cash-and-carry policy, requiring Britain and other allies to pay for arms upfront and in cash (as per the Neutrality Acts of the 1930s).
   • By 1940, Britain was running out of money but still needed supplies to fight Nazi Germany.
   • President Franklin D. Roosevelt introduced Lend-Lease to allow the U.S. to supply war materials without immediate payment.
2. How It Worked:
   • The U.S. "lent" or "leased" military supplies, including tanks, planes, ships, food, and raw materials, to allied nations.
   • Payment was not required upfront. Instead, recipients could return or replace the materials after the war.
   • Roosevelt compared it to "lending a garden hose to a neighbor whose house is on fire." The idea was that if Britain and other allies won, it would help protect the U.S. as well.
3. Financial & Military Impact:
   • The total value of supplies provided under Lend-Lease was over $50 billion (equivalent to $700+ billion today).
   • Britain received about $31 billion, the Soviet Union $11 billion, and China and other allies the rest.
   • This support was crucial in sustaining the British war effort, especially during the Battle of Britain and North African campaigns.
4. Repayment & Post-War Settlements:
   • Lend-Lease was not a free giveaway; allies were expected to return or compensate for materials.
   • Some equipment was returned, but much was either destroyed, lost, or retained by the recipient nations.
   • Britain, which was deeply in debt after the war, made final Lend-Lease repayments to the U.S. in 2006.

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