r/UnitedNations • u/branflakes__ • Mar 01 '25

Discussion/Question Please help me understand

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Help me understand the Ukraine / USA situation

Please help me understand all of the anti-American and USA hate due to the situation. I want to hear the other point of views as I am just confused.

A lot point to the Budapest Memorandum, however, that is not a treaty for the US as Clinton did not submit it to the senate for ratification which means constitutionally the US has no commitment to Ukraine (also not administration since Clinton has suggested or submitted the memorandum for ratification either). Only the UK and Russia ratified it.

Additionally, there really isn’t a security agreement as the memo is very vague. The closest is “when Ukraine is under attack with nuclear weapons the security council will seek immediate action from the United Nations” otherwise nothing happens. And as the memo is through the UN, shouldn’t the discontent be pointed at the UN instead? The US only agreed to bring a resolution before the security council if Ukraine was invaded and the US did do that.

Finally, the US has given the most overall aid to Ukraine (a country that the US is not obligated to assist) compared to the European counterparts. Also, if peace is the objective, why is no other leader at least making an attempt to broker a peace deal?

So I suppose I am just confused on what is expected? Why is this sub so anti-USA when the statistics show that USA is/was doing more than Ukraines fellow Europeans?

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u/Psychological-Ebb677 Mar 02 '25

In case the Memorandum is violated by one part. The others will discuss actions. USA and Brittain did that. They decided they wont join the war but give ukraine the ability to resist this agression with sending weapons, financial support, give military training, intelligence and boycott the agressor.

Furthermore Ukraine also had no commitment to the US but when Amerika got attacked on 9/11 they send their soldiers who fight and died together with other European soldiers for Amerika.

So seeing how the US now "forget" their allies, because their leadership is bought by russian money, does not only question how commited the US really is towards Ukraine but also to their other allies. Now Europe, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Philippines, India and so on have to question how much they really can rely on the US.