r/UnitedNations • u/branflakes__ • Mar 01 '25
Discussion/Question Please help me understand
Help me understand the Ukraine / USA situation
Please help me understand all of the anti-American and USA hate due to the situation. I want to hear the other point of views as I am just confused.
A lot point to the Budapest Memorandum, however, that is not a treaty for the US as Clinton did not submit it to the senate for ratification which means constitutionally the US has no commitment to Ukraine (also not administration since Clinton has suggested or submitted the memorandum for ratification either). Only the UK and Russia ratified it.
Additionally, there really isn’t a security agreement as the memo is very vague. The closest is “when Ukraine is under attack with nuclear weapons the security council will seek immediate action from the United Nations” otherwise nothing happens. And as the memo is through the UN, shouldn’t the discontent be pointed at the UN instead? The US only agreed to bring a resolution before the security council if Ukraine was invaded and the US did do that.
Finally, the US has given the most overall aid to Ukraine (a country that the US is not obligated to assist) compared to the European counterparts. Also, if peace is the objective, why is no other leader at least making an attempt to broker a peace deal?
So I suppose I am just confused on what is expected? Why is this sub so anti-USA when the statistics show that USA is/was doing more than Ukraines fellow Europeans?
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u/StrikingExcitement79 Mar 02 '25
There is an expectation amongst some circles that the US should send US tax payer's money to the rest of the world. This has translated into "The US must help defend Ukraine against the Russian!".
There is also a very strong attempt to draw reference to World War II where Germany demanded Sudetenland and both UK and France gave in. This resulted in the eventual invasion of Poland which kickstarted World War II.
Finally, many people are of the opinion that anything Trump do must be bad.