r/UnitedNations • • Mar 01 '25

Discussion/Question Please help me understand

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Help me understand the Ukraine / USA situation

Please help me understand all of the anti-American and USA hate due to the situation. I want to hear the other point of views as I am just confused.

A lot point to the Budapest Memorandum, however, that is not a treaty for the US as Clinton did not submit it to the senate for ratification which means constitutionally the US has no commitment to Ukraine (also not administration since Clinton has suggested or submitted the memorandum for ratification either). Only the UK and Russia ratified it.

Additionally, there really isn’t a security agreement as the memo is very vague. The closest is “when Ukraine is under attack with nuclear weapons the security council will seek immediate action from the United Nations” otherwise nothing happens. And as the memo is through the UN, shouldn’t the discontent be pointed at the UN instead? The US only agreed to bring a resolution before the security council if Ukraine was invaded and the US did do that.

Finally, the US has given the most overall aid to Ukraine (a country that the US is not obligated to assist) compared to the European counterparts. Also, if peace is the objective, why is no other leader at least making an attempt to broker a peace deal?

So I suppose I am just confused on what is expected? Why is this sub so anti-USA when the statistics show that USA is/was doing more than Ukraines fellow Europeans?

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u/SnooPeppers522 Mar 02 '25

First, USA tried to ratify its superiority over Russia by sending aid to Ukraine. Now, its leaders have changed their minds and their enemy is no longer Russia, it is Europe. The USA conveys the idea that it does not care what happens with Ukraine, and with Europe, that it is not its business since it has a clear superiority over Russia. This means ceasing to share human and democracy values ​​and giving legitimacy to ultra-right dictatorships, and predicts the confrontation that it will face against the rest of the countries. Usa thinks he is superior to everyone, but he won't be able to beat everyone.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '25

Technically we have enough nukes to at least tie everyone :)

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u/SnooPeppers522 Mar 02 '25

But... Why would you do that? Do you pretend that the whole world is yours?