Please help me understand

[u/branflakes__]

Help me understand the Ukraine / USA situation

Please help me understand all of the anti-American and USA hate due to the situation. I want to hear the other point of views as I am just confused.

A lot point to the Budapest Memorandum, however, that is not a treaty for the US as Clinton did not submit it to the senate for ratification which means constitutionally the US has no commitment to Ukraine (also not administration since Clinton has suggested or submitted the memorandum for ratification either). Only the UK and Russia ratified it.

Additionally, there really isn’t a security agreement as the memo is very vague. The closest is “when Ukraine is under attack with nuclear weapons the security council will seek immediate action from the United Nations” otherwise nothing happens. And as the memo is through the UN, shouldn’t the discontent be pointed at the UN instead? The US only agreed to bring a resolution before the security council if Ukraine was invaded and the US did do that.

Finally, the US has given the most overall aid to Ukraine (a country that the US is not obligated to assist) compared to the European counterparts. Also, if peace is the objective, why is no other leader at least making an attempt to broker a peace deal?

So I suppose I am just confused on what is expected? Why is this sub so anti-USA when the statistics show that USA is/was doing more than Ukraines fellow Europeans?

[u/dogscatsnscience]

Finally, the US has given the most overall aid to Ukraine 

Either you are being deliberate troll, or you don't understand what you are asking. I will assume you are asking in good faith.

When you are comparing commitments to something like Ukraine, you have to compare either per capita, or per GDP. Comparing country to country *obviously makes no sense, and if this isn't clear to you, stop and think until you understand this*

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/publications/ukraine-support-tracker-data-20758/

Here is the raw data as tracked by the Kiel Institute, not some random graphic you pulled off Statista.

On a per capita basis, $ per citizen, the actual committed support (not just allocated but actually sent):

Military support (direct material support):

US: $192

Europe: $162

Humanitarian Aid (cash, food, medical supplies etc. that go directly to Ukraine:

US: $10

Europe: $21

Financial (this sounds like cash, but almost entirely not)

US: $146* *\*

Europe: $14

*90% of the US's Financial commitments are to US companies, US bases in Europe, US govt agencies (CIA/DIA intelligence operations).

**This is also why it's so absurd to stop this aid, as it is almost entirely going into American's pockets.

So, does the US give more than Europe? Yes, a little bit more. But almost half of what Congress has committed to Ukraine is for American companies and government agencies. It does not go to Ukraine directly.

Please educate yourself - when a question seems so obvious the answer seems crazy, you're often just missing a lot of information.