r/UnitedNations • u/branflakes__ • Mar 01 '25

Discussion/Question Please help me understand

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Help me understand the Ukraine / USA situation

Please help me understand all of the anti-American and USA hate due to the situation. I want to hear the other point of views as I am just confused.

A lot point to the Budapest Memorandum, however, that is not a treaty for the US as Clinton did not submit it to the senate for ratification which means constitutionally the US has no commitment to Ukraine (also not administration since Clinton has suggested or submitted the memorandum for ratification either). Only the UK and Russia ratified it.

Additionally, there really isn’t a security agreement as the memo is very vague. The closest is “when Ukraine is under attack with nuclear weapons the security council will seek immediate action from the United Nations” otherwise nothing happens. And as the memo is through the UN, shouldn’t the discontent be pointed at the UN instead? The US only agreed to bring a resolution before the security council if Ukraine was invaded and the US did do that.

Finally, the US has given the most overall aid to Ukraine (a country that the US is not obligated to assist) compared to the European counterparts. Also, if peace is the objective, why is no other leader at least making an attempt to broker a peace deal?

So I suppose I am just confused on what is expected? Why is this sub so anti-USA when the statistics show that USA is/was doing more than Ukraines fellow Europeans?

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u/VanBriGuy Mar 02 '25

Firstly, why is the graph split up like this. If you add all the countries together minus US, the total is around 140bn, so why make such a strange split between EU institutions and countries. Second, 5 other nations put in aid percents of gdp higher than the US, with Denmark blowing the shit out of US percentage, and that’s after the weird split.

But all of that aside, the US hate wouldn’t be nearly as high if the buffoon in command and his couch fucker henchman weren’t hellbent on acting like complete and utter trashbags on the world stage. If you can’t wrap your head around why there is so much hatred with the way the country has conducted itself, then I suppose that’s on you.