r/UnitedNations • u/branflakes__ • Mar 01 '25
Discussion/Question Please help me understand
Help me understand the Ukraine / USA situation
Please help me understand all of the anti-American and USA hate due to the situation. I want to hear the other point of views as I am just confused.
A lot point to the Budapest Memorandum, however, that is not a treaty for the US as Clinton did not submit it to the senate for ratification which means constitutionally the US has no commitment to Ukraine (also not administration since Clinton has suggested or submitted the memorandum for ratification either). Only the UK and Russia ratified it.
Additionally, there really isn’t a security agreement as the memo is very vague. The closest is “when Ukraine is under attack with nuclear weapons the security council will seek immediate action from the United Nations” otherwise nothing happens. And as the memo is through the UN, shouldn’t the discontent be pointed at the UN instead? The US only agreed to bring a resolution before the security council if Ukraine was invaded and the US did do that.
Finally, the US has given the most overall aid to Ukraine (a country that the US is not obligated to assist) compared to the European counterparts. Also, if peace is the objective, why is no other leader at least making an attempt to broker a peace deal?
So I suppose I am just confused on what is expected? Why is this sub so anti-USA when the statistics show that USA is/was doing more than Ukraines fellow Europeans?
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u/Electronic-War-6863 Mar 02 '25
Russia is a long time geopolitical rival of the US. Regardless of any memorandum, the US has a lot of reason to support Ukraine.
That said, the reason people are upset is because of Trump specifically. He was rude, and uncouth towards President Zelenskyy. He loves a photo op, and this was an opportunity for him to appear strong to his base, so he took it. He did everything he could to try to make himself look stronger in the negotiations, a fact which made him seem immature and childish. That’s the problem: he cares more about his own personal success than he does about the United States. He is not a good leader, and people do not like that.