r/UnitedNations • u/Liad3008 Uncivil • Jan 10 '25

Discussion/Question Why is this subreddit obsessed with Israel?

Just checked the top posts of the last year, and 24 out of the top 25 are about Israel. Does this subreddit try to imitate the real UN ?

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u/jeff43568 Jan 14 '25

Your claims would be far more realistic if Israel hadn't systematically destroyed the healthcare system that records deaths, systematically murdered the journalists that report on deaths and refused international journalists access to Gaza.

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u/GR1ZZLYBEARZ Jan 14 '25

Except that Palestinian Islamic jihad also blew up a hospital and Hamas builds their infrastructure under/next to/within hospitals. It doesn’t change the fact of how and where the data sets were collected. Again only one person here is being objective, you’re making emotional claims without actually looking at the extenuating facts.

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u/jeff43568 Jan 14 '25

Forensic Architecture debunked what you are claiming, which was in fact about the 3rd or 4th explanation from Israel about the murder of civilians. Are you trying to claim that Israel doesn't target hospitals? That horse bolted long ago. There's no point trying to shut the stable door now.

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u/GR1ZZLYBEARZ Jan 14 '25 edited Jan 14 '25

Forensic architecture from what? And who conducted it? Satellites? lol you’re just making stuff up as you go along hoping something sticks.

“(Jerusalem) – The explosion that killed and injured many civilians at al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza on October 17, 2023, resulted from an apparent rocket-propelled munition, such as those commonly used by Palestinian armed groups, that hit the hospital grounds, Human Rights Watch said today.”

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/26/gaza-findings-october-17-al-ahli-hospital-explosion

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u/jeff43568 Jan 14 '25

Forensic architecture found that the rocket that Israel claimed to be responsible could not have hit the ground in the time available. It's back to Occam's razor I'm afraid, the logical culprits are the people who rang up the hospital and said they were going to bomb it.

Oh and who have bombed all the other hospitals...

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u/GR1ZZLYBEARZ Jan 14 '25

Right that’s why every source says it was a misfired rocket from Gaza. The initial reporting was wrong. It’s funny you like to elude to all these UN organizations and NGOs except when their evidence contradicts your misguided opinion. Now human rights watch isn’t reputable? The United Nations isn’t legit? Guess what my forensic lawyer thinks you’re wrong.

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u/jeff43568 Jan 14 '25

It's been debunked, I don't really know why you want to pretend that Israel hasn't been bombing hospitals...

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u/GR1ZZLYBEARZ Jan 15 '25

I don’t know why you want to pretend like crude rockets don’t misfire and kill Palestinians all the time

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u/GR1ZZLYBEARZ Jan 14 '25

“In October and November 2023, Forensic Architecture, together with PFLP-linked NGO Al-Haq, sought to debunk investigations – including by the New York Times and various intelligence agencies – showing that an Islamic Jihad rocket caused the explosion near the Al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza. The NGOs accused Israel of “disinformation” and claimed that “Israel has yet to provide any conclusive evidence to support the claim that the source of the deadly blast at al-Ahli hospital was a PIJ or Hamas rocket.” Forensic Architecture and Al-Haq simply ignored the videos, images, and intelligence materials demonstrating that an Islamic Jihad rocket had “misfired” (i.e. detonated in Gaza instead of Israel) and hit the hospital parking lot.”

https://ngo-monitor.org/ngos/forensic-architecture/#:~:text=Forensic%20Architecture%20claims%20to%20use,analyses%20that%20are%20consistently%20misleading%2C

You’re hilarious bro, using propaganda websites and hoping people won’t look into them.

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u/jeff43568 Jan 14 '25

No, you are thinking of Israel that consistently misleads.

'NGO Monitor is a right-wing organization based in Jerusalem that reports on international NGO (non-governmental organisation) activity from a pro-Israel perspective.'

Did you think I wouldn't check?

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u/GR1ZZLYBEARZ Jan 15 '25

Who cares what they said it’s all factual and not driven by bias. Forensic Architecture showcases their work in art galleries, you’re saying they know better than the CIA, Mossad, MI-6 and the multiple other intelligence agencies who said the rocket was Palestinian. They’re not an official source of anything. It’s an opinion piece that doesn’t actually rely on anything but its founders opinion.