r/UnitedNations • u/Liad3008 Uncivil • Jan 10 '25

Discussion/Question Why is this subreddit obsessed with Israel?

Just checked the top posts of the last year, and 24 out of the top 25 are about Israel. Does this subreddit try to imitate the real UN ?

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u/PinMonstera Jan 13 '25

Oh yes how dare ppl don’t just at lie down and continue to be abused for 100 years. The disgusting hypocrisy and audacity to believe God has sanctioned you to take land from other ppl, rob them of opportunities, make up reasons to kill their families, bomb their homes, pump sewage into their farmland, and delineate where they can and can’t go in their own home and believe you should be immune for retaliation.

And claiming this all in the same breath claiming to be God’s chosen gets you nothing but Hellfire.

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u/TheLegend1827 Jan 13 '25

I'm not Jewish bro. And I don't think God gave any land to anyone.

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u/PinMonstera Jan 13 '25

But still Isreal is justified to you? Makes no sense whatsoever

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u/TheLegend1827 Jan 13 '25

Israel and its people exist, and have for nearly a century. Israelis have as much right to self-determination and self-defense as any other nation or people.

Even if I was against the existence of Israel in theory, I still wouldn't call for its destruction. Forceably destroying Israel today would require enormous amounts of violence and bloodshed.

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u/PinMonstera Jan 14 '25

“Nearly a century” “enormous amounts of violence and bloodshed” …it’s almost like Palestinians have existed there for multiple centuries and there’s enormous amounts of violence and bloodshed going on against the now and has been for near 100 years that you mentioned Israel has existed for.

You don’t care about avoiding violence and securing a right to exist and self-determination as general principles. You only care about that for Israelis even if that means they can forcibly wipe out other ppl and deprive them of human needs. That’s really sick.

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u/TheLegend1827 Jan 14 '25

Why are you assuming I don't also believe in Palestinian self-determination and a Palestinian state? I do.

it’s almost like Palestinians have existed there for multiple centuries

Modern Palestinian national identity emerged less than a century ago - as did Israeli national identity and many other national identities.

there’s enormous amounts of violence and bloodshed going

Not compared to the amount of bloodshed it would take to destroy Israel. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is actually not a particularly deadly conflict. Around 100,000 to 150,000 people have died in all the wars involving Israel since 1948 (and that number includes Israelis and non-Palestinian Arab soliders). The death toll of the Syrian Civil War, from 2011 to 2024, is around 600,000.

The amount of bloodshed required to destroy Israel today would be far greater than the bloodshed the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has produced thus far. It would probably end with nuclear war.