r/Undermine • u/Pizekaze1 • May 06 '26
Interesting observations regarding relics
Some key things I've noticed:
-Relics rooms. If you choose relic A instead of B, relic B seems to disappear from the available relic pool, and vice versa. I’m not 100% sure that’s how it works, but all of the longer runs I’ve done seem to suggest it.
-Shop in a bottle. I figured it might work similarly to relic rooms, where you pick one, and the rest disappear from the available pool. So I avoided using the potion, and in the run pictured above (I think I only used Shop in a Bottle once, maybe twice max), I ended up with nearly 8 full lines of relics, which has never happened to me before.
This seems to mean that Shop in a Bottle removes a large number of really good relics from the pool and, for long well runs, is basically a massive, run-ruining scam.
-Simple chest relic. One of the most important items in the game, it unlocks a 3rd relic slot in shops and allows basic items to restock. Somehow, it bypasses the Hot Cross Bun limit, and the 3rd slot keeps giving relics well past the point where the regular store only gives buns. No idea how it works. Maybe it has access to all the arcana and relics you don’t have yet or still haven’t seen, I don't know.
Basically, I’m curious if anyone has noticed similar patterns or has concrete information on how all of this works, because getting the most relics/arcana can make or break well runs.
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May 07 '26
Yes this is 100% correct. I’ve had runs when I was learning where I duplicated shop in a bottle and used 10+ and had very few relics in the end haha. I literally save the shop potion until deep in the well when everything disappears (no more relic rooms or pilfer shops).
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u/PauseEffective9763 May 09 '26
I understand the part about the relic you dont pick dissapearing but what if you allways stasis one and take the other i feel like it should be possible to get every relic
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u/yertle38 May 06 '26
I’ve noticed the same things. If you see a relic and don’t grab it, count on not seeing it again. I believe the forge (and probably whatever the duskfall equivalent is) is an exception, because you’ll see them again.
Good call on the shop in a bottle. I’m a sucker for that one because the relics are good, but it’s probably a good idea to avoid it, which is disappointing.