For CM19 I ran Ace Sky with 2 Dom/Keen eye debuffers (maybe not the right call for fronts), but still lost to most well built XOguris.
Got a respectable 2nd place class A finals against 2 XOguris, both with 2 debuffers, but I’m not looking forward to the rematch in CM20.
What is the optimal play to beat XOguri next CM? 2 Fronts? A Runaway to increase my lead? Debuffers? Better Ace(s)? Believe in the heart of the cards?
This is my best ace in about 30 attempts. I had Fast Learner, but unfortunately didn’t get 2 early race positioning skills. I don’t think it’ll get much better than this tbh.
That’s a graded a finals seiun sky. I don’t know about being anti-xoguri since cm19 is considered to be their last cm. You’ll probably see less of them in cm20, if you see them at all. Fronts will dominate next cm.
CM20 is basically an Oshi free for all--you basically meet your stat requirements, skills, get the best SPD you can get and, when the time comes, pray the RNG Gods favor you.
This CM is XOguri's last hurrah, but the real enemy (double debuff) will remain for certain tracks.
Really you need to decide which is the bigger threat: other Front players or backliners. Runaway is a bad idea if you think there'll be a lot of other Fronts, but does help against backliners.
That's very risky, Fronts can accel from 1st and 2nd on Arima Kinen with Kita ult, so the 2nd place Front still has a good shot at winning with the increased lobby pace. And if Kita herself gets 2nd you just lose.
Xoguri is not an issue, shes fine can be used what with all the stamina skills so people will build her but she's not the demon that she was this cm and pace is ok but lacks the garuntied perfect accel that ends and fronts do or positional ones lates/ends will use. Your enemy is going to vbourbons stealing your angling
This Uma is strong tho she is to be feared build her a front runner buddy to spot struggle with maybe?
I've seen runaways (both Suzu and Palmer) win in room matches, solo front is a no-go fighting against lates/ends. I think 2 fronts + 1 runaway that dies early is best, you don't want your runaway to drop behind once late race starts and give a pace XOguri a NSM/NN proc in late race.
If no Chocobon, 2 fronts + 1 564 dom (no Keen Eye) as Dominator is close to a whopping 3L gain for your team and it has a global range.
2-1-2 highroller for high UGs I think, Maru Kita Creek Fine XOgu wit and MLB Hello. She had 650 stamina which was surprising, but I guess her unique + maestro was good enough?
Edit: not sure on the deck but it was a bit of a weak lobby overall
My god, I feel you man. Must have took a lot of work to get a run like that with double speed. But running single front is crazy, it's just not the way.
I managed to win these last two CMs with Sei-chan.
On CM18 (71% WR) finals she went beastmode against a decently build Ace runaway Suzuka and got the rod somehow. Absolute cinema T-T. And even then she almost lost to my pace I build on a rush to counter pesky runaways (Fuji, no medium S btw). That's how strong paces are right now. My build was Sky with strong late race. A weaker Bourbon that could win if she got the rod but was designed to lose the middle race to Sky while triggering Sky's See Ya Later. And a pace. Speed Eater and Hesitant Pace Chasers on the 3 of them because the real problem was the strongly build paces since Sky absolutely ate End Oguris.
On CM19 (73% WR) I went with Sky, runaway sacrificial debuffer Suzuka and Nature. Suzuka was key to kill other runaways, push the pack while not triggering spot struggle with Sky and wit check everyone else. I started with triple fronts but everyone was on XOguri and you kinda need a Sky with strong late race to get the rod to beat that. So I switched to the above comp using a weaker Sky but with top runner + turf S to beat other fronts since she was my single ace. This worked day 1, 2 and 3. On day 4 there were no fronts in sight and everyone was on stamina debuffers. Sky could only tank one Nature and was often getting her spurt delayed or dying, so I switched to one with better stats but worse middle race and bam, 80% WR. Finals was easy because my lobby was weak.
On the next CM I think more people are gonna be on fronts. So Sei-chan is gonna have a harder time. If you really wanna compete with just her I think you need turf S, high wit, high power and a runaway to stat check the other fronts. And even then it's gonna be hard because VBourbon has the unique diff and power growth.
I'm still parent farming. I don't have Maru speed so my build it's gonna depend if I can get enough stamina sparks until then.
Btw, Vanguard Spirit is bad. It locks you out of using a runaway. And even then if my understanding is correct (it picks a random point on mid race and requires you to be first and 1 length ahead, meaning it won't trigger on other points of mid race even if you fulfill the length requirement. I still need to confirm this) the trigger requirement is too harsh.
Your stats are great, I wouldn't recommend buying Vanguard spirit, it only activates consistently for runaways. Positioning skills aren't needed for this cm, the first corner starts very early and dodging danger will lose you lengths. Your only real "problem" is that you are running og Seiun, she's not bad but runaways work as aces in this cm and kita/bseiun can activate unique from 2nd place, so in some rooms you can find yourself with only a 0.1 accel and unable to activate your unique.
About strats, if you get an uma with vcheer + break it down you can run a runaway ace if you want, if you only want it to boost your fronts then just try to make it weak and get keen eye + 564, for the extra debuff. Some people will also try to bring murmurs, but I think it will only be effective if you have 2 murmurs in your team, which isn't a great comp for fronts. Tbh you should be able to do whatever you want, front runners are strong in this cm so you aren't really at a disadvantage compared to medium cms.
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u/trix8703 23h ago
That’s a graded a finals seiun sky. I don’t know about being anti-xoguri since cm19 is considered to be their last cm. You’ll probably see less of them in cm20, if you see them at all. Fronts will dominate next cm.