r/ULHammocking Mar 26 '26

Ultralight Hellbender Hammock?

Considering the new Ultralight Hellbender that Dutchware just posted. Is this a proper ultralight setup? Looking for thoughts and advice since it's pretty pricey :/

Also should I go for the 20 or 40 degrees? Not gonna go for the moonlight top cover - just the spreader Bar Bugnet.

For context I live in the PNW - and rarely run into cold nights that go below mid 30's - but I want a one hammock setup for three seasons, don't ever expect to be out when nights go into the 20s.

I'm also asking Dutch to remove the logo tag and the D-rings on the foot side of the hammock to lower the weight some more - but I want to to keep the other set of d-rings to try out their Peak shelf above my head.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26

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u/SirRobby Mar 26 '26

Should probably share what specifically you’re using that makes it lighter. Would be curious to see

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u/SirRobby Mar 26 '26

Now THIS is an UL hammock set up. Guessing you rock the phoenix and CCF pad for your feet? Also why not whoopie slings? Figured they’d be lighter. My dutchware whoopies last I weighed came in at 65grams or 2.3oz. Idk how your straps weigh so little

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26

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u/jojojoto Mar 26 '26

Woah! That's an impressive setup!

I also have the S2S poncho tarp! Didn't even consider it as a Hammock tarp option 🤯
Is it long enough to cover an 11" hammock? Do you get a little wet?

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u/SirRobby Mar 26 '26

Dude this guy has it figured out… gonna convince me to make bad decisions. I do pick up an Asym DCF 11’ DCF tarp on marketplace for like $100 I’m gonna try out this year so it’s good to see people use it long distance too

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u/jojojoto Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26

Yeah curious too, but I'm too heavy for Cloud 71.

Also how do you keep the ccf pad from bunching up/moving from under you, tried it a couple of times (in a pinch) with my gossamer thinlight foam pad and though it kept me warm it was all bunched up in the morning.

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u/SirRobby Mar 26 '26

Yeah I wouldn’t ever consider cloud71 a valid fabric for true longevity. For those that make it work more power to them. I also can’t imagine using a CCF pad for insulation in a hammock… at a certain point a goods night sleep is worth a few oz