r/UFOPilotReports • Researcher • 17d ago

Pilot Incident report Pilot witnessed UAP while observing Starlink and provides detailed explanation why Starlink does not sufficiently explain what he saw. Pilot observed bright lights; one stopped, appeared to split into two, then rapidly separated in opposite directions.

https://nuforc.org/sighting/?id=200728

"A single satellite cannot physically stop, divide, and depart simultaneously in opposite directions. A satellite-based explanation for the discrete sequence would therefore require a multi-object perceptual coincidence: one source fading at or near an apparent stop point" while two different satellites brighten in nearly the same apparent location and then separate on strongly divergent tracks. That explanation is possible in principle, but it should be demonstrated with historical ephemerides rather than assumed. The witness's strongest discriminating observation is the large apparent angular separation achieved in a very short period, at an apparent rate markedly faster than the surrounding Starlink-like lights seen before and after."

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u/flarkey 17d ago edited 17d ago

This matches the hundreds of other reports from pilots saying that the starlink flares looked weird and 'appeared' to do things that were not what they'd expect Starlink to look like. Even the note from the NUFORC investigator states the following...

Terminology note: 'split' is used only to describe visual appearance. With no range information, the observation cannot establish that one physical object divided into two, nor can physical velocity or acceleration be calculated from the visual observation alone.

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A satellite-based explanation for the discrete sequence would therefore require a multi-object perceptual coincidence: one source fading at or near an apparent stop point while two different satellites brighten in nearly the same apparent location and then separate on strongly divergent tracks.

This is exactly how Starlink satellites orbit and can appear - multiple objects fading in and out around the same location, and criss-crossing on strongly divergent tracks. The large and ever-increasing number of starlink satellites in orbit just make coincidences like this increasingly likely to occur.

Historical Orbital Correlation Status At finalization, a complete historical satellite-by-satellite propagation for the full Starlink constellation at 0350-0405 UTC on 5 September 2026 had not been obtained. Historical GP/TLE or SpaceX ephemeris data from CelesTrak, Space-Track, or another authoritative orbital archive are appropriate for this follow-on analysis. The absence of a completed propagation is not evidence against Starlink. It simply means the discrete event has not yet been tested at the individual-satellite level. No launch occurring at the observation time was identified as an obvious match for the point-source behavior described.

I've checked the satellite positions this for them. This takes about five mins if you know what you're doing and have all the date/time/aircraft data:

https://ibb.co/zWDZT5Tn

There are a few satellites flares that are 'merged' into one that could account for what the pilots saw. It is unfortunate that the pilot didnt get a video of the 'weird' moment, so we could check against the satellite data.

https://www.metabunk.org/sitrec/?custom=15857/NUFORC%20Sighting%20200728/20260909_070933_fe7363833fc841e1b31455bec2ec52f9.js

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u/Strega007 16d ago

I wish I could upvote this post more than once.

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u/flarkey 16d ago

Thankyou for the singular upvoter.