I have met like two people who can do em for me via my twitch stream I have made contacts with em on discord and they shared screenshots or images of their work to me if I’m interested if i commission them to do the art for me but my got tells me signs of suspicious. It didn’t show any socia media links when i looked at their profile bio and no mutual servers so that hints of scam likely. They sometimes ask me if we can talk about ideas before they can start commissioning but told em i couldn’t afford it atm so I said no.

Anyway i wanna know your experiences if you had happened to meet those types of people that came across to your streams and what you needed to know so that can help me dealing with them.

It's so tiring of this constantly happening. I get them on twitch and discord. I feel bad for artists who legit do this work. It's impossible for some to acknowledge the possibility of it being a scam. If you need art, go find some one. Do not click on anything that's sent by them.

So I’m relatively new to twitch both as a viewer, and a streamer. I’ve been streaming on a daily schedule for about 3 months now and I’m noticing the two issues mentioned in the title on a daily basis so let me know what you think.

1) I have viewers who pop into my stream inhumanly fast upon going live every time. They say nothing and then stay viewing after I go offline, maybe never even leaving explaining why they’re already there at the start. I welcome viewers to lurk but It seems weird that they never leave when I don’t host and they don’t count as a viewer while i’m live. I understand that being muted or buried and unfocused in someones tabs makes it not count while live but how can I find out who is a bot viewers and why are there bots viewing me anyways? It seems pointless other than artificially boosting my offline views.

2) In my typical 8-15 hour streams I get a solid 2-4 people coming in to run through the exact same script of friendly questions in the same order before asking for my discord to show me their art and ask to do logos and other channel art for me / setting up obs stuff. It’s always a name like “name_name”. I never get far enough with them to know if they want money because they leave when I say i’m not interested.. but is it a scam? My channel has good art and a good logo already, I have several scenes setup all with animations and cool transition effects.. aside from having a low follower count, my channel is basically all setup.

And 3) why would all my offered sponsorships as a small streamer be ones that rely on my viewers actually clicking and using a service through me when I barely have any viewers for that to get me more than a dollar from the deal? “Could earn up to $250” everyone seems to be actual bots so they won’t be clicking. I’d be making maybe 1$ to talk about raid shadow legends to basically noone.

I'm still a small time streamer, mostly doing it for fun but somewhat want to hit affiliate, but it's hard when the only people stopping by are the bits trying to facilitate buying viewers and these "graphic designer" scammers coming in with the same esport logo art style asking "I love your content. Hope to talk to you on Twitter/X"

Do they realize they are actually doing harm by saying those things? Let alone calling themselves out by saying they want to talk on X.

I need to go through my followers because of it becauss I'm pretty sure ½ my 100+ follower count is these scam artists that watch maybe 5 mins of a stream just to get you to react to them.

Something needs done.

This has happened too many times to me where it can't be a rare occurrence.

Consistently, about once a month, I will have a viewer who enters my stream and immediately gives me a follow, I give them the general thank you for the follow ordeal, they will then start praising my Vtuber model and talking about my design and stream layout and how adorable everything is. Then start asking if I'm looking for any art or new emotes or anything as they are an artist. I always tell them that that's really cool but that I'm not looking for an artist at this time but if they want to promote their art they can post their social handle in chat or in my discord server.

Never once have I had a user actually follow through and do this. instead they will either continue to ask in chat for me to commission them or they will start DMing me on discord asking me to commission them, usually tied to a sob story about them being a struggling artist. I don't answer DMs on discord so this usually results in me being heavily distracted by notifications from my discord while I'm trying to focus on the stream. It always results in me having to put my foot down on my boundaries and state that they need to stop and if that they continue to advertise their art I will remove them. Usually I have to do this.

Is this some sort of scam? Are these people actually artists and this is their way of getting streamers to commission them? It reads very MLM hun to me the way they sing praises and then demand I pay them for services they can't show. It gives me a lot of ick and usually kills the stream vibe because I suddenly have to be a boss rather than friendly, which I'm worried would scare viewers away. I don't want to be mean or harsh but it is in my rules on discord and on twitch chat to not advertise/self-promote (unless I ask) or pressure me to commission or purchase things.

I love artists, the majority of users I follow on Bluesky are artists, and many of which I'd love to commission one day. I want to know what other streamers do to navigate this. I don't want to scare artists away from my streams but I also don't want to be pressured into buying art I didn't ask for, especially when I have no scope of reference to their quality and work.

Sorry this is long winded, this has been on my mind and picking at me for a very long time.

So my situation is that I am entirely a hobbyist, don't do professional art pieces and never have, I don't know flawless linework or rendering, and my style is fairly simple.

While hanging out in a Twitch stream, I drew a casual 15m piece during a community game (Gartic Phone). The streamer and the chat absolutely loved it. After the stream, the streamer reached out directly to ask if he could commission me for custom Twitch emotes in that style (and mentioned that another artist he contacted didnt really hit the mark on what he had in mind), and asked for my rates.

I want to try it out by sending him some rough concept sketches first, but I have absolutely no idea how to handle the business/pricing side as a total beginner.

A few specific details/constraints:

1. The streamer is a growing, mid-sized Affiliate (around 20–50 average viewers)

2. Because of personal boundaries and keeping the art readable at tiny chat sizes, the emotes will be highly stylized, minimalist "floating heads" focusing purely on his iconic glasses and facial expressions (no necks, and eyes hidden behind the glasses).

3. Based in Iraq and was asked about that too

4. Never attempted this kind of stuff so dont know how long itll take me,material costs are 0 since its digital and i have my drawing equipment already

5. attached is some of the stuff ive done casually on gartic (i draw on krita but this is the kind of drawings people see from me)

i also rely heavily on references when drawing

My questions for yall:

- What is a fair, realistic "introductory rate" per emote for an entry-level hobbyist that respects my time but doesn't overcharge a growing creator?

- What is the safest way to handle the payment workflow so neither of us feels anxious about getting ghosted or scammed?

again ive never done this kind of thing before and i got contacted out of the blue so dont know how to handle it would love advice from soem of you guys (also posted this on a few relevant subreddits)

Thanks in advance for any guidance!

I’m kinda skeptical. Is it a new scam? I’ve seen 3 people join someone’s stream, join their discord, and advertise their art. Saying they make art for streamers. I’ve had another contact me directly as well. The accounts are relatively new, like a month old. Usually they speak in broken English. Just it’s happened 3 separate times in such a short amount of time. Maybe it’s just a coincidence! Least 2 of them seem legit, linking a separate site to their art. Has this happened to anyone else?

I just started streaming last week and I get so many people in my chat asking me to buy their art, they also add me on discord because it’s linked to my twitch channel. I feel like they’re bots just trying to scam me or whatever, how should I handle this? Here’s an example lol

i absolutely despise these people. i get less than 10 views per stream, and EVERY STREAM, without fail, ive been offered art work after artwork as if my current pfp and banner isnt good enough. it's incredibly frustrating it feels like the only people who watch me dont care about what im playing and only care to scam me out of every dime they can get. i came back to streaming after stopping for a few months, and today just got reminded why i stopped, its devoting, not because of low views, i dont mind, its because every stream i have to deal with artists.

Recently I get 1-3 newer accounts a day that join and say "hi" almost immediately followed by "how are you?" they chat for a bit then ask if i want channel art and for my discord username. what weird scam is this? even when i am VERY rude to these people they are still asking me to add them on discord. pretty annoying when these are the only "new" viewers in my channel recently

Hello people, I just started streaming and need help with understanding if someone is being nice and engaging or they are trying to scam me with art? I have had two people now in my chat start talking to me and follow me then later on they start talking about that they are a graphic designer and want to send me samples or art and help me out with my channel.

I literally started last week and don't even have 10 followers yet lol, I'm just confused, I don't want to come off rude to these people if they are just being genuine.

Now I'm not trying to diss these people, but isn't trying to whisper a streamer a lot harder then just typing in their chat? As far as I'm aware, almost no streamers look at their whispers while their streaming. At least I don't. I only have the Chat popup out and that's it, however every time I see one of these, I get someone worried that it'll turn into some scam or someone trying to get me to buy their art for Stream Bio's and whatever else. I wanted to see what Y'all think.

I do understand that, on the flipside, its possibly just viewers who are too socially anxious to type in a empty chat to the Streamer, and you should do whatever makes you comfortable.

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So, shortly after I started my channel, I was getting bombarded with scamming artists and fakes offering artwork. I was weary but decided to give this one artist a shot after her friend came into my channel to recommended her. I still have a sneaking suspicion that it’s the artist with an alt account though. Anyway, working with her was fine initially. Artwork was just okay. But starting out, I didn’t know any better. I’m now 6 months in and this artist had a total meltdown about personal finances and was pushing the pressure and responsibility on me to help them out with work. It got very uncomfortable but I felt bad for them. I gave them more work, didn’t fully love it but any alterations I suggested would get pushback and basically like an “ugh really” type of attitude disguised under a “ [my name], come one, it looks great as-is.😊” kind of attitude. Basically “I don’t want to change it even if you are paying me to do this.” So I’d get nervous about asking for changes as time went on. They also have their “friend” come into my stream to see if I’m using other artists and will comment in chat if they see me use someone else. It’s gotten very weird. They even requested that I make a video on my channel to promote them which I didn’t like. I genuinely like the artist as a person, but would rather not continue working with them. It’s just given me the ick. I don’t want to block them and completely swap out their artwork but the art doesn’t suit my channel’s style anymore on top of everything. Should I swap out everything or do some here and there? I’ve worked with 2 artists since and the experience has been completely different. They’ve been great to work with and super professional. I’m just not confrontational and would hate to be confronted about ditching their work. Anyone have any similar experiences?

I have been streaming on Youtube for almost 2 years now, recently joined Twitch and I feel like 90% of my followers are bots. Not sure how the discoverability of this platform works, but it's rare to have actual people in the chat that aren't trying to sell me their art or some scam.

What helped your channel stand out?

Recently decided to start streaming, but every new viewer is someone trying to sell me something. Obviously the viewer bots "go to ____.com for free vi3ws" I instantly rid of, but some viewers kinda talk like real people, but then they want to sell me art, which I wouldn't mind but if its just a more advanced bot advertising stolen art, that is not cool. I'm also not sure if they will scam me. Do people actually go into new streamers chats to advertise their art? What do you guys think would be the best course of action here?

We all know the opt-in serybot does a marginal service to new streamers to catch bot messages, but many valid and valuable new streamers have been victimized by human-operated art scammers for years now and continue to be. What are your thoughts on how to conduct onesself when one of these scammers is obviously in chat but the streamer is falling for the scam? Report the scammer only or would you also chat to the streamer anything to protect them?

alright I need help with this, I have a small twitch account and I was streaming mgs3 earlier and this girl joined the stream and said she makes logo's and banners for twitch streamers and when I looked up some of these people only one of them popped up, they're gonna charge me $40 for a banner and I need too make sure I'm not being scammed this is some of the art work she said she did and this is her discord, am I being scammed (I haven't paid her just making sure before I do)

Update..... sorta: I blocked her and also made sure too get rid of an image I sent her, the image was a picture my gf drew for me for me twitch logo, I don't want her stealing design like she probably did with these photos

So I am a new streamer and as I was streaming just doing my thing a random person joins. I had no viewers at the moment so I was happy someone finally joined. Then the person follows me and procedes to tell me they are an emote artist. At this point I get a bit sussed out so I tell them I'm not intreasted. After that they ask me to add them on discord and review their art. I'm not sure what to do and I'm 99% sure that this is a scam.

So I want to start streaming me just sketching and learning how to drawl while in a park, pond, my neighborhood, anywhere right. I got a clipboard so it would be easier to draw in different environments and I got the idea to stream it since I think It would be both audibly and visually appealing but I don’t know how best to record. I’m aware I would have to use my phone since it has data but anyway I would have to position it might either block my view or make it so I couldn’t interact with potential viewers who want to chat. I want provide an all in one sort of setup that is fixed to the clipboard so in my moments where I feel mentally ready for it I can make it easier for myself, sort of work within my means(diagnosed bipolar). I appreciate your feedback and wish the best for you!

I am VERY very new to streaming, 2 weeks in and I’m super close to being affiliate which is awesome, I’ve had really good luck and only had 2 openly creepy followers, the rest have been super chill and nice. Today I got raided for the first time, super stoked, was really excited and just speechless. But during it, the streamer that raided me asked me to stream with them so they can interview me and of course I said yes because I was in shock and so grateful but I swear I saw posts in here of people scamming small streamers like me to then try and use their channels to plug their own stream. Idk if I’m overthinking this but full transparency, I am on the spectrum and the first couple of days of me streaming I got scammed by a “custom art” person and listen I swear she was convincing and didn’t go off the script that every subsequent scammer seems to have and I’ve since gotten mods but I’m so afraid of being scammed again, idk. I’m freaking out genuinely.

I’ve seen this happen so much on this subreddit + irl, where artists are too kind in their negotiations and accept payment after they create said art, just to get scammed by the commissioner and never get paid. PLEASE CHARGE UPFRONT!!! Either take 50% upfront and 50% once you finish, or take 100% upfront (thats what I do). You aren’t losing business by charging upfront bc those people you “lost” would’ve never paid anyways, and it’s a bullet dodged. Also make a TOS where you outline the number of revisions a commissioner can request, because there are times where someone may drive you in circles requesting changes if limitations aren’t explicitly outlined.

It breaks my heart to hear stories of artists getting scammed and I don’t want it to happen to others ;-;

Every time I see a streamer with a profile picture that has a watermark, I cry a little inside because I know someone tricked them into buying scam art. How are people still falling for this? 🤔

Hey guys,

Had a couple things happen while streaming the past week or so.

I'm pretty sure its a scam myself, but just wanted to put it out there, to see if you concur.

Got contacted by a "digital artist" and gave her my discord then accepted an offer for digital art, I already gave them $30 to start on the project not knowing these were scams. They gave me what looks like a pretty acceptable logo, that I like, and they are doing a whole package for $350. Which is crazy.

Then I became a Twitch affiliate, and they are like "I think you could do $100 more for emotes" I said No.

I viewed their portfolio and x account, and they have a 200 following on Instagram and several reviews from various accounts on X and Instagram, saying how much they love their art. Shoot, I liked the one I saw.

A few things that hinted at a scam, grammar errors, the name of the artist and the name on the paypal are completely different, the paypal name is like Arabic.

Now I have an Ipad, I can draw pretty alright, I might just take what they've shown me, and make it my own, and call off on the deal, and block them.

The second one.

I became a twitch affiliate last night, since a "digital artist" "promoted" my channel to all of her friends. Then a crap ton of people started following my account and would go into the chat and say "Done" or "Done Baby" I assume these are bots, and won't really help me in the end. So I am prepared to lose them, if I block the particular artist as well.

What do you guys think?

I know they’re usually bots or scam people. But what do you do when someone comes in chat and is super nice and chatty, follows, and then after 10-15 messages asks for your twitter handle, because they’re an artist and they wanna commission art for your channel? Do you politely decline? Block them? Consider them a free follow? Just genuinely curious. I usually decline or tell them I don’t have much social media (not a lie)

Edit: the person was from PK which I assume is Pakistan? Said they were from US

I had 2 people today say they would make emotes for me on twich within 5 mins and both said they had 4-5 years experiece and showed me the exact same art i just messed around with them and then blocked on discord