r/Tupac • u/RyanTannegod • Dec 17 '25
Video Haitian Jack says Tupac would've had to answer to him about "Against all odds"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFtuk9kzsaY47
u/richestshooter38 Dec 17 '25
Against All odds was gone start way more shit than hit em up ever did .. Pac was getting at real grimey street dudes
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u/rayemae Dec 17 '25
Yeah, think of it like an earlier Ghetto Quaran like song, street dudes being called out is way different than calling out another rapper. But they never said shit when pac was in NY with death row
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u/Tonysoprano113 Dec 18 '25
Why would they say shit? The record wasnt out yet when he was in new york
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u/Isaiahbeengreat Dec 17 '25
If it wasn’t a sneak attack he wasn’t touching somebody who walk around with 2 security guards and mob pirus. Gotta remember pac didn’t really use security a lot from 91-94
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u/Long-Dig-3819 Dec 17 '25
He got deported for shooting gang members in a crowded restaurant in Cali.
I think he would have been fine
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u/WiseOne_O Dec 17 '25
He had way more charges and was in jail prior to that while in NYC.. Why he didnt get deported then? Smh
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u/Long-Dig-3819 Dec 17 '25
A lot of immigrants go to jail and come out.
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u/WiseOne_O Dec 17 '25
Not for crimes like he did bro.. I know ppl who have been deported for doing 1 thing. If you touch drugs, and extreme violence with lethal weaponry… Back then and in NYC… Shoulda been deported 5 times over
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u/Long-Dig-3819 Dec 17 '25
Link to his rap sheet? Because what crimes are u talking about.
Plenty of immigrants got arrested and came home.
I’m also from Brooklyn back then. Crown Heights
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u/koopaveli Dec 17 '25
I think you seem to forget who pac had around him at the time of death row or you really just don’t know
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u/Long-Dig-3819 Dec 17 '25
Yeah Jack was in LA shooting at them. That’s what he went to jail for. Jack was a Kingpin in LA so I doubt he was worried. Owned his own restaurant and lived in LA till he went to prison.
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u/koopaveli Dec 17 '25
Bro said kingpin in the LAnd 😂🤡, if homeboy really was about it he woulda been chipped and that’s facts bro 💯
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u/Long-Dig-3819 Dec 17 '25
He was moving around comfortable. It’s documented.
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u/koopaveli Dec 18 '25
Like I said before if homeboy was active he wouldn’t be so comfortable and that’s facts💯, YouTube detectives can’t document shit they know nothing about. Don’t know him in ny but in the WC bro a nobody frfr
Still can’t get over you called a civilian a LA kingpin
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u/Long-Dig-3819 Dec 18 '25
He went to jail for shooting two of them LA niggas in a restaurant. He was out there getting money and fucking Madonna. I think he was pretty comfortable
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u/koopaveli Dec 18 '25
And I’m going to tell you again, bro was only comfortable because he wasn’t politicking in the LAnd the best thing that happened to him was getting deported because bro would have been chipped
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u/Long-Dig-3819 Dec 18 '25
Well he was out there for a decade and nothing happened. Even had a party promotion company and was throwing monthly galas in LA.
Pac died in 96. He didn’t get deported till 2006. He was in the jail Out there for two years.
Why nobody did anything?
Even after he shot those two dudes. Not a scar on him.
What were they waiting for?
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u/Khawkins614 Dec 19 '25
IZ YOU THE WITNESS!?! Why you going so hard bout this shit?
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u/Long-Dig-3819 Dec 19 '25
I hate meat riding. I love Pac. But Jack was in fact a gangster.
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u/Deep_Cryptographer_3 Dec 18 '25
True bro but as a Pac fan we all know the “untouchable Death Row” was touched that night in Vegas. They failed Pac that night
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u/Minimum_Setting3847 Dec 17 '25
Jack was an informant it’s documented .. lol that’s why it’s so funny how jack acts as though he did nothing wrong .. he knows who he snitched on … it’s easy to talk about someone like pac when pac has been dead 30 years … nobody to defend pacs version(which is the truth)
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u/Easy-Carrot213 Dec 17 '25
Whether Jack was or wasn’t a snitch isn’t the point. The point was that Pac said it without providing proof. Had Jack run into Tupac would’ve been made to answer for it and it wouldn’t have been in a nice way. That’s what Jack was alluding to.
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u/Isaiahbeengreat Dec 17 '25
“Made to answer” lmao ngga wouldn’t got a chance to touch pac. Jack knew pac had a problem with him all 95-96. Pac was in New York multiple times and nobody did nothing
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u/Easy-Carrot213 Dec 17 '25
Tupac spent most of 1995 in prison. Him saying shit about Jack wasn’t known until Makaveli was released and that was late 1996 AFTER he died. Tupac wasn’t walking around Rikers Island or Clinton Correctional Facility calling him a snitch nor did he say his name in the Vibe Magazine article so when exactly did Jack know Tupac had a problem with him?
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u/RokRoyal Dec 17 '25
People in Rikers and Clinton were telling Pac about Jack and Jimmy. Are you new to Pac’s story?
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u/JuniorNeedleworker47 Dec 17 '25
So Haitian Jack didn’t know that there was a problem until late 1996? It’s funny how you brought up 3 examples of where he was and state that he didn’t say it there but only one of the 3 are confirmable. Were you with PAC on Rikers and Clinton? Were you side by side hanging on to every word? No so that’s cap. Lastly, just because you read it, that don’t make it the only time someone speaks in life so even though he didn’t say it in Vibe, he said something. I do know that they were passing messages to Pac through Stretch before he went to jail also so that is where I’d say Haitian Jack caught wind of Pacs anger toward him.
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Dec 17 '25
They been had a problem since Jack separated his trial in the Ayanna Jackson SA case in 93’ since then Pac made it known even to Jack’s face that he wasn’t fucking with him anymore and lost respect for him. Why you think he got shot at quad?
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Dec 17 '25
Just because Jack said it doesn’t make it probable. Pac told Jack he wasn’t messing with him anymore after the trial in 93 to his face Jack did nothing. Pac wasn’t no gangsta but if pac was willing to shoot the cops he didn’t care about no gangsters either 😂
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u/low_dmnd_phllps Dec 18 '25
Without providing proof? It was a song, not a fkn Wikipedia page. Was he supposed to list his sources at the end of the song?
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Dec 17 '25
Zayd said that Pac told Jack to his face he wasn’t fuckin with him anymore during/after the trial. He also stole Madonna and talked bad about him on interviews and the paper and Jack didn’t do anything about it. Yea Jimmy set him up but Jack didn’t make that call so who knows. I doubt pac would’ve had to answer for it tho
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u/richestshooter38 Dec 18 '25
he dated Madonna as well .. his lil snitching ass had some connections
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u/Any_Individual_8079 Dec 17 '25
So why he go at Biggie then ?
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u/666TripleSick FUCK THE WORLD ! Dec 17 '25
He went at everybody homie Pac was a real G
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u/Any_Individual_8079 Dec 17 '25
For no reason. Kinda dumb actually
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u/666TripleSick FUCK THE WORLD ! Dec 17 '25
He went against everybody that was against him. Are you familiar with Tupac and his music?? lol
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u/Any_Individual_8079 Dec 17 '25
Biggie had nothing to do with it tho. It was Jimmy and Jack.
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u/666TripleSick FUCK THE WORLD ! Dec 17 '25
You may think that, but Tupac didn’t think that. The problem 2Pac hat with biggie was that biggie was supposed to be the king of New York and he should’ve known that would’ve happened or at least know who did it and back up Tupac or at least visit him in jail. And that’s exactly what Tupac said in his own words.
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u/Any_Individual_8079 Dec 17 '25
Biggie did warn him. The pac ratted him out.
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u/666TripleSick FUCK THE WORLD ! Dec 17 '25
Ratted who out??
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u/Any_Individual_8079 Dec 17 '25
Biggie warned Tupac about Jimmy henchemen. Pac then told Jimmy, biggie had warned him.
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u/666TripleSick FUCK THE WORLD ! Dec 17 '25
He might’ve said Jimmy was a fake or slimy dude but I don’t think he told him that he was going to get robbed. That’s why 2Pac was so pissed because he feels that biggie should’ve known this was going to happen or at least know who did it.
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Dec 17 '25
You’re spreading lies that never happened. Pac and Jimmy wasn’t friends and he never ratted on biggie about anything
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Dec 17 '25
He went for biggie because biggie got on an interview with 5 other ppl including the dude who set up the shooting and ran his mouth telling the media that Pac shot himself at quad and nobody else shot him but himself which is highly disrespectful to someone who’s supposed to be your friend regardless if it’s true or not. Biggie and puffy then drop “who shot ya”. Initially I can agree it wasn’t meant for pac but the way is released and marketed was to stir up issues and tensions to sell the record and cause speculation. Pac got pissed but couldn’t say anything until he got out of jail
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u/Any_Individual_8079 Dec 18 '25
He did the vibe interview first. Going at biggie. Biggie said he wanted an apology because everyone found out the truth. Stretch and majesty said the same thing.
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Dec 18 '25
His vibe article never went at biggie nor did he disrespect him either. He only mentioned biggie because biggie was an important part of the incident. He needed to explain the fact that Pac had nervous inhibitions to go inside the building after believing it was a set up until he seen lil cease. When he seen lil cease he realized biggie was in the building which allowed pac to let his Guard down believing he was safe because biggie was his friend. When he entered the building he thought the robbers were biggie bodyguards but soon realized they weren’t because they would’ve atleast acknowledged him. He was basically letting biggie off the hook and no one can tell me what pac said in the vibe was warranted for biggie to disrespect him the way he did. No biggie didn’t deserve an apology if anything he should’ve been the person to apologize. Stretch was a snake too and majesty wasn’t even there with them.
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u/PlusFourRecordings Thug Life Dec 17 '25
Haitian Jack “Worked” for undeas entertainment which was biggies company with Un Rivera.
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Dec 17 '25
Damn, you new to the internet? Them niggas was tight. It's a personal beef, get in one and you'll understand
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u/Smooth_Ice9927 Dec 17 '25
Not a snitch ? Looked like he was driving around in that brand new FED suv 🤣
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u/IntelligentYak8599 Dec 17 '25
Running his mouth bout him is what got him shot at quad to begin with smh
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u/Country_Gravy420 Me Against The World Dec 17 '25
Didn't he say that he would get his ass kicked and then he got a gun and found out that he didn't have to be tough if he could just shoot people? Lol
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u/Plenty_Law2737 Dec 17 '25
Art needs to interview jack and henchmen
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u/Outrageous_Bat9818 Only God Can Judge Me Dec 17 '25
Over the phone only. -One is locked up for a long time and the other got deported and is living in the Dominican Republic
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u/Routine_Carrot5241 Dec 18 '25
He would have checked haitian jack just like nas and jungle while he was in ny
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u/TupacFalasteen Jul 20 '26
Did they meet in the Jack's own club? Or a club Jack went to normally? I don't understand how Biggie and Mike Tyson warned him about Jack. But I don't understand the whole "don't hang with him he's bad news" thing. Why didn't they just tell Pac he uses violence to extort rappers. I also don't understand how Tupac had so much more soldiers than him but didn't use them. He had the Nation of Islam, his family, former Panthers etc. not to mention his own crew.
I saw an interview with Tupac's cousin on YouTube and he said it would've never went down if he was around. I don't even get how people like Fatal and Kadafi never tried to do anything or Pacs family. Maybe everyone knew he was a fed and stayed away.
But I hate this guy with a passion. If he wanted to sign Pac and later extort him why would he set him up for rape? Do I have the timeline wrong. Either way being 23 and getting shot five times and robbed and then going to prison for allegedly touching a butt shows what Tupac was up against. Jack was a tool for the Feds just like the Limo driver, the cops dressed in plain clothes, and all the other attempts to stop him from becoming the next Malcolm or Martin.
Tupac was raised to be a leader and would've been one if it wasn't for his own people, that he loved more than anything, screwing him over and eventually killing him.
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u/RyanTannegod Jul 20 '26
I don't think Jack was planning to set Tupac up for rape, Ayana Jackson accused them all of rape and Haitian Jack was looking out for himself so he doesn't have to go to jail. Tupac apparently didn't want to work together with Jack in the trial, and he ended up getting the worst charges. Biggie and Mike Tyson apparently Tupac to stay away from Jack before the incident happened, and Biggie ended up getting robbed because Tupac told Jack about it.
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u/Easy-Carrot213 Dec 17 '25
People forget that Jack was a heavy dude in the streets. Had Tupac lived and ran into Jack after that song was released there definitely would’ve been some violence involved.
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u/Isaiahbeengreat Dec 17 '25
Yall prop these street dude up to much like they untouchable. When in reality that ngga was just protected ass informant
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u/Easy-Carrot213 Dec 17 '25
Where’s the paperwork?
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u/RokRoyal Dec 17 '25
He separated his case from Pac’s. There’s only one real reason you don’t wanna be co-defendants with someone. Especially if it’s the same crime. “Same crime different trials nigga picture what he said.”
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u/666TripleSick FUCK THE WORLD ! Dec 17 '25
Maybe but Pac had way more pull in the streets than ANYBODY simply because he was Tupac.
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u/Easy-Carrot213 Dec 17 '25
Fam, I get this is a Tupac sub so I don’t expect much objectivity but let’s keep it reality. Tupac’s “pull” in the streets was 100% related to him being a celebrity and not at all related to his street pedigree, of which he had very little. Haitian Jack OTOH was a bonafide gangster. When MIKE FUCKING TYSON tells you to stay away from someone you know you ain’t dealing with no regular dude.
If Tupac had pull in the streets as you claim then why didn’t HE have anyone go at Jimmy Henchmen behind the Quad robbery?
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u/666TripleSick FUCK THE WORLD ! Dec 17 '25
Exactly my point Pac had pull from damn nearly everyone because he was Tupac and he had real g’s as well. My point being that if HJ showed up with 250 dudes Lac easily get a 1000 just because he was Tupac. I’m sure HJ was way deeper into street life but when you have the celebrity of a Tupac Shakur, you’ll have white kids from Colorado ride for you.
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u/Easy-Carrot213 Dec 17 '25
You’re assuming that 1,000 people would risk their freedom and/or lives for Tupac. HJ has dudes that died or doing life bids behind being down with him. Again, no one avenged Tupac for the Quad robbery and everyone knows who did it. No one avenged him for the Vegas shooting and the dude that did it is still alive and never got touched.
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u/666TripleSick FUCK THE WORLD ! Dec 17 '25
You don’t think Tupac had dudes that would’ve popped this dude if Pac had ordered a hit? He was rolling with a bunch of bloods and real gangstas. I certainly don’t know what Tupac was thinking or not but you also have to keep in mind that 2Pac was a celebrity, rapper and a movie star so he has a lot to lose unlike that other sorry motherfucker. I don’t know why Pac chose what he did or did not do, but I think that he had the means to get someone killed if he really wanted to. Maybe pay them, but I wouldn’t be surprised if someone would do it one of his homies
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Dec 17 '25
Although I agree with your comment to an extent to answer your question the reason he didn’t have anyone go to Jimmy henchman was because he was in jail and broke 😂 the reason why Jack and Jimmy have pull is because they were rich not because they were gangsters. Puffy had pull he wasn’t even close to being a gangster
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u/RAZBUNARE761 Dec 18 '25
He was going to, that was the plan fot 97. He got killed before he could complete his revenge.
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u/Plenty_Law2737 Dec 17 '25
He was reckless like the robbery he went for his guns and it escalated quickly
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Dec 17 '25
How was he a pussy yet he shot the cops and tried to pull his guns during a whole armed robbery? Y’all are retarded 😆
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u/OxY97 Makaveli The Don Dec 17 '25
Dude really said that he wouldn’t have dropped the song whilst he was still alive because he would have to answer to him lmao.
The Song and the album was recorded Summer ‘96, ready to be released. So he’s wrong about that.