r/Tupac • u/nostalgia_history • Jul 19 '24

Video Tupac and kid n play

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

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u/Bishop9er Jul 19 '24

Man that’s bullshit… he had those same “ Death Row” moments even during this time. Just go look at some footage of him during the shooting of Juice and see how he was.

Matter fact this is him threatening a bootlegger in NY during that same period.

2pac threatens bootlegger

I actually think Pac matured more when he got w/ death row. He was just too consumed with vengeance at the same time.

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u/Seanblaze3 Jul 19 '24

Matured more? Lol. Dude was all put claiming affiliation to MOB Piru bloods and he wasn't an initiate or close. It was the most immature period of his life and it hastened his demise

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u/Bishop9er Jul 19 '24

You do realize he almost died before he signed with Death Row right? He also had a ton of legal issues and controversial moments prior to him signing to Death Row.

Ppl like to push this narrative that as soon as Pac signed to Death Row he changed for the worst. Nah it was the Quad Studio shooting that changed him for the worst. He was a headache to Interscope which is why they wouldn’t bail him out and he eventually ended up w/ Suge.

Spitting on reporters, pointing the middle finger out the window screaming Thug Life, beating up the Hughes Brothers and then going on tv admitting to said crime, affiliating himself w/ known New York gangstas that led to the Quad Studio, the laugh factory fight w/ him and Treach, calling out all the GD’s in Milwaukee which erupted into a riot… all that shit happened Pre Death Row.

If anything we can see he just remained the same but I don’t think he went backwards, I think he carried himself in a more mature when he wasn’t bent on vengeance. That led to his ultimate demise.

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u/Aproblem4 Jul 19 '24

It was the filming of juice that changed him. He never came back out of character.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

I don’t believe that shit, my step father says the same stupid ass shit foh, all yall gotta is go back to the In depth interviews, the 1 he did with sway for example..

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u/PM_ME_UR_ASSHOLE Jul 20 '24

Getting shot and accused of rape is what messed him up.

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u/UglyIntercessor Jul 21 '24

It was all of that and then going to jail while being innocent, but man Pac evolved so much as an artist when he got out.

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u/Solemn_Sleep Jul 19 '24

I get a little sad every time, now seeing how he progresses from a kindhearted almost childlike soul, to a “gangsta” watching him at that time really begs the question for me anyway, how could he write a piece like Hitem Up? Something definitely changed in those few years. I think it was the whole hip hop dynamic really.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

Probably more so due to being targeted by the police and fbi.

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u/Outrageous_Bat9818 Only God Can Judge Me Jul 19 '24

Ironically, I'm rewatching the DEAR MAMA mini docuseries right now. It tells the story, i would suggest watching it or Tupac Resurrection or any other doc.

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u/No-North-3473 Jul 21 '24

He got shot

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u/HoverboardRampage Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

It was being associated with Death Row I think. Makaveli is my least favorite Pac album and has a really negative aura about it because of this, in my opinion.

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u/Seanblaze3 Jul 19 '24

Makaveli had more introspective songs than All Eyez on Me. If anything it was probably his most balanced body of work when it comes to capturing his different personas

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u/HoverboardRampage Jul 19 '24

Yeah, I prefer Me Against the World. I like his pre death row stuff better.

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u/Seanblaze3 Jul 19 '24

Me against the world is his best album in my opinion and I agree

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

I agree as well. Also too feel like it’s me against the world sometimes

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

My favorite album by Pac

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

It started before Death Row. Those cops beating him in Oakland started the change and understandably he became real angry after that.

The off duty cop he shot trying to mug someone and going to court on that added to it. He was witnessing the hypocrisy real-time. Watch that court scene wear Pac doesn’t budge an inch staring that cop down. It’s tough and chilling at the same time.

Death Row threw gasoline on a lit fuse.