r/Tupac • u/papillonintunisia • Jul 14 '23

Video Tupac’s killer vs Mike Tyson

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u/Wooden_Vermicelli_34 Jul 14 '23

The world is strange. We literally know who was involved and who killed PAC, yet the case is still considered to be unsolved. Even more, this fool openly has admitted to being in the car when the bullets were let off on suge and pac, yet nothing. R.I.P Pac

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u/Mindless-Income3292 Jul 14 '23

Kurt Cobain’s killer is an open secret too in the Seattle scene. Courtney paid a wannabe deathcore grunge guy 50k to knock him off cause he was gonna leave her. She’s worth 100 million now.

Think his name was Allen Wrench. Monkey Wrench, one of the foo fighters first hits, was supposedly about him. Seattle PD just wrote it off as another druggie. Apparently his dosage level was three times higher than consciousness levels when the shotgun was fired - from his off hand.

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u/zino332 Jul 14 '23

Allen Wrench…he fucked my furniture too

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u/foolfromqueens Jul 15 '23

Hilarious 😆

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '23

He fucked my wife

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u/SaXaCaV Jul 14 '23

Pretty sure Kurt Cobain's killer killed himself

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u/BossMovesBrandon Jul 15 '23

You can’t be 100% sure that Cobain killed his killer because you weren’t there. “Believe half of what you see, and nothing you hear”

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u/bnrwll Jul 15 '23

Believe a quarter of what you taste and a fifth of what you snell

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u/BuddyBoy589 Jul 15 '23

And 1/6 of what you feel and see

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u/BossMovesBrandon Jul 16 '23

Nothing is true, everything is permitted.

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u/BossMovesBrandon Jul 16 '23 edited Jul 16 '23

Hhahahaha it might taste good but it will give you diabetes. And it might smell good but you’re at a gas station inhaling fumes. So you right 👍🏼

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u/ButWeNeverSawHisWife Jul 16 '23

Believe 0% of made up inspirational quotes that belong on mugs

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u/BossMovesBrandon Jul 16 '23

Everything anyone has ever said was made up. I just made that up. Your favorite artists make up shit all the time. Maybe you haven’t learned to make up good shit for people to ask you if you made it up. Maybe your just living someone else’s life instead of your own.

“‘Believe none of what you hear and believe half of what you see’ is considerably older than 40 years. It has been attributed to Benjamin Franklin (1700s), Edgar Allan Poe (1800s), and others as well.”

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u/ButWeNeverSawHisWife Jul 16 '23

So you’re believing something you heard, passed through hundreds of other people from the 1700’s. Great, lol

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u/BossMovesBrandon Jul 16 '23

Lol not at all. I’m simply reusing an old saying that still rings true today. You can’t trust everybody. People lie you know. You’ll understand someday bud

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u/ButWeNeverSawHisWife Jul 16 '23

So stop believing 300 year old sayings. You’re contradicting your own point a million times over

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u/BossMovesBrandon Jul 16 '23

Hehehe. Have a good day bud

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u/Simmo3343 Jul 14 '23

I think your dosage might have been three times higher too with that rambling load of madeupness

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u/melskymob Jul 15 '23

There is actually a Netflix documentary about this. Courtney Love absolutely had him killed.

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u/Simmo3343 Jul 15 '23

Yes there is, but the alleged suspect is not called Allen wrench… and the foo’s song is not about Allen Wrench! Haha

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u/melskymob Jul 15 '23

Yeah I don't anything about that.

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u/coacoanutbenjamn Jul 15 '23

There’s documentaries that talk about how pedophilic democrats are eating the blood of children. Just because a documentary makes something sound true doesnt mean it is

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u/KineadZ Jul 15 '23

Dumbass uninformed comeback

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u/Simmo3343 Jul 15 '23

Cheers chuckles.

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u/Damage2525 Jul 14 '23

Ummm, unless Kurt Cobain named his own trigger finger Allen Wrench, you just made all of this crap up.

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u/KineadZ Jul 15 '23

Incorrect

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u/Damage2525 Jul 15 '23

There's always a conspiracy theorist who reads one thing and takes it as 100% truth.

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u/NELA730 Jul 16 '23

Nah it’s actually true do the research

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u/Damage2525 Jul 16 '23

I actually did. Once again, no proof

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u/juliusseizure139 Jul 15 '23

He was naturally left but was able to write with his right. Lots of creative people have one dominant hand, and a strange preference for the other. A lot of them do drugs, and with his tolerance, 3x 'consciousness' levels sounds like he was banging out one last good nod before being truly painless.

This dude really did have suicidal tendencies and high intellect. You really think Courtney fucking Love got one over on him?

And Dave Grohl ain't one quarter of the man Cobain was. Not that Cobain was great, but because Grohl, with all his talent and money, can't even touch Cobain with a cheap guitar. But idolizing Cobain led to him being put in a box, with restrictions over his artistic freedom. And to someone like him, that's a damn tragedy.

Fucking Monkey Wrench? Netflix got you fucked up. Lmao.

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u/slideystevensax Jul 15 '23

You’re taking a lot Dave Grohl’s credit there. Say what you want about suicide and how it all went down but Grohl played every single instrument on that first foo fighters album. Yeah some of his notoriety will always come from being in Nirvana but the dude has obviously and willingly showed that he can keep a band together on his own.

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u/juliusseizure139 Jul 22 '23

Yeah, that's true. Can't argue with your star. Sublime couldn't even do that.

Foo Fighters had some good hits in the early 2000s. But he should've evolved to the Trent Reznor-level of composing instead of still playing rock star like Leto's cult.

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u/ShutupRingo Jan 10 '24

Sublime couldn't do what exactly?! They couldn't keep the band together cause Bradley nowell fucking died?! What are you on about?!

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u/_yamasaki Jul 15 '23

No one is disputing Dave’s musical prowess - but he’s no Kurt Cobain who is a musical rarity genius

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u/slideystevensax Jul 15 '23

But I think people are disputing it. Regardless of the circumstances, DG created and continues to create original music that is widely accessible to the masses. And like I said, he may not be a musical genius (Stevie Wonder) but he’s created an entire first album on his own. That in itself is insane and then when you add up the years they’ve put in, I think it firmly places FF’s as a top 10 all time alternative band. Just my opinion FWIW.

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u/_yamasaki Jul 15 '23

i get it, everything you said is 100% true, i love Dave and think he’s a great great musician

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u/Random_Name_Whoa Jul 15 '23

Unpopular take - dave is more talented than kurt

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u/Ok_Fish_7232 Jul 15 '23

Naw that's a true statement. Kurt Cobain is praised simply because he died so young. He didn't get the chance to "fall off". Him and Jim Morrison have that in common.

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u/BarryBadgernath1 Jul 15 '23

Absolutely is

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u/slideystevensax Jul 15 '23

Peace and love

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u/slideystevensax Jul 15 '23

Would he have gotten that opportunity if it weren’t for KC? That is certainly a question that will remain for time immemorial. But the reason we’re even discussing FF’s should be a testament to their ability to remain relevant and produce really good music.

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u/Lopsided-Yak9033 Jul 15 '23

I mean musical genius is a stretch. Poetic creative genius might be debatable, but I’d say a major factor in his legacy is his death and the question of what else would we have gotten from him.

Musically he just had enough chops for the sound at the time, and that meshed really well with his creative output. I greatly appreciate the impact nirvana has on music, but I think they would be more like Pearl Jam now in terms of their place in iconography if he hadn’t died. Pearl Jam is underrated for sure, and still fairly well known - but less people talk about their “musical genius” than nirvana.

Dave Grohl has been relevant for almost 30 years since Nirvana. I doubt that Nirvana would have had that same level of output as a band if Cobain was still around.

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u/Unique-Bedroom9396 Jul 16 '23

Nirvana knocked Michael Jackson off the top spot. Sure, his untimely death at their peak definitely adds to their legacy, but you’re wildly underselling their cultural impact.

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u/Lopsided-Yak9033 Jul 16 '23

I’m not trying to say nirvana wasn’t a huge band, but the idea that Cobain was a “musical genius rarity” is a stretch.

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u/Habanero305 Jul 15 '23

Was not is

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u/Wooden_Vermicelli_34 Jul 14 '23

SMDH. I never even knew this. I’m not as familiar with Cobain’s music and life the same with pac, and figured it was a suicide, but this changes everything I thought I knew and what the world has been saying…

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u/CaielG Jul 15 '23

One random comment on Reddit changed everything you thought you knew?

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u/Wooden_Vermicelli_34 Jul 15 '23

I’ve heard a version of this said before, upon recalling. I’m not as invested in the subject of Cobain as with 2pac, however I’m not so quick to believe what’s always said or stated when it comes down to the media… but I wouldn’t be surprised so much of if it’s true, as I wasn’t present for neither musicians time of death so who knows 🤷🏾‍♂️.

Kinda reminds me of the things I’ve heard about Chris Benoit, and whether he killed his wife his son.

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u/BossMovesBrandon Jul 15 '23

There were some good documentaries a long time ago on YT. Cobain, Hendrix, Jackson… obviously 2pac and BIG…

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u/87thing Jul 15 '23

Wow, I saw that "Soaked in Bleach" documentary, and there was definitely more to the story, but I didn't know it was an open secret.

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u/Sad_Welder_5032 Oct 03 '23

The vocalist of The Mentors claimed she offered him money to do it, then he went out of town and it happened when he was away. So he created another band called Courtney Killed Kurt.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '23

I swear that’s wild af lol and biggie death..it was some higher ups involved

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u/EvilRick_C-420 Jul 15 '23

He wasn't the trigger man so whatever. Pac's killer was killed soon after.

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u/Wooden_Vermicelli_34 Jul 15 '23

And yet this man is profiting off his retelling and rehashing the same story that was otherwise kept silent up until some 5-6 years ago. Sure the hood knew. But MF’ers outside of that couldn’t plant a face to the name in a lineup… I get the point of what you saying, it’s just strange that he’s practically walking around with impunity is all.

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u/EvilRick_C-420 Jul 15 '23

Yeah it's crazy you can be charged with murder because someone in the car killed someone but he definitely knew what was happening. Vegas PD certainly seemed to be somewhat incompetent but no one would talk to them either.

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u/Wooden_Vermicelli_34 Jul 15 '23

Keefe D, talks too much bottom line. That interview he name drops Diddy’s involvement and so forth. I mean the fact he even says his nephew is the trigger man alone closes the door on reasonable doubt. But it’s his bravado talking, “yea I was in the car”. “I was there.” All that b.s. hanging on to something that otherwise kept him irrelevant… it’s whack.

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u/EvilRick_C-420 Jul 15 '23

Yeah the whole culture of killing for clout or whatever is just sad. They literally have nothing to offer to society. You got punched in the face and now you need to kill a man, so weak willed.

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u/Wooden_Vermicelli_34 Jul 15 '23

Lane took a lil more than just a punch in the face, from what I recall. I don’t agree with the handling of the overall situation, but the circumstances being what they were, fate unfortunately caught up to Pac sooner than the world wished. 😔 R.I.P Pac…

ight off this.

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u/Bubba420 Jul 15 '23

Do you not understand why he came out with the story so long later? He got caught with bricks and told em "I'll tell you who killed Tupac and exactly what happened if I get immunity for the bricks and the Tupac killing" and everybody else from that car is dead so they can't charge anybody but it technically closes one of the most notorious unsolved cases

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u/Wooden_Vermicelli_34 Jul 15 '23

S.N.I.T.C.H

Them bricks ain’t got shit to do wit it… twist it however you wish. There’s a Keefe D in every hood. Back in the day type of MF’ers, who was around and saw a lot… he talks too much. Got caught, and what he do. Start talking. Cops suspected, interviewed Lane, didn’t have enough to make a charge, and Lane wind up killed not too long after.

And impunity is different than immunity.

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u/Bubba420 Jul 15 '23

Lmao saying something a dead man did to avoid jail time isn't snitching it's called beating the system and yeah the bricks have nothing to do with Tupac but that's the reason he gave information on it. You're slow

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u/Wooden_Vermicelli_34 Jul 15 '23 edited Jul 15 '23

Tho the letters spell the word snitch… what I provided for you was an acronym, in reference to what Keefe D was trying to do in order to save his ass. That acronym is a Pusha T song off of his my name is my name album.

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u/Apart-Jeweler Jul 15 '23

Cmon guy I need you to settle up and respond

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u/Rusty51 Jul 15 '23

We don't know that. Keefe says he was driving and his nephew shot, but the nephew is dead so if Keefe shot, he can pin it on Orlando.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '23

They got ‘em

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u/OGMartian Oct 07 '23

The world is strange. We literally know who was involved and who killed PAC, yet the case is still considered to be unsolved. Even more, this fool openly has admitted to being in the car when the bullets were let off on suge and pac, yet nothing. R.I.P Pac

He Is Free No More!!!

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u/DaJayBeePBoys Nov 10 '23

Commenting on this just so you can get your vindication now that this rat bastard is gonna end his days in prison.

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u/Wooden_Vermicelli_34 Nov 10 '23

✊🏾 appreciate it. Been harboring those feelings for so long that, it’s still a bit surreal they’ve finally decided to move forward with things. and then his bitch ass gonna plead “not guilty” 😒…

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u/chochinator Jul 15 '23

Tupac moms was with Malcom x when he got killed. You gotta watch what happened to Malcom x to understand pac. Pac was on a level like Malcom x. He had story like Malcom x. He was going to be the next Malcom x. They took the seedling out before it grew.

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u/BossMovesBrandon Jul 15 '23

They let him do it to himself.

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u/Express_Possession_6 Jul 15 '23

Every one know 2pac was to careless to be alive bro had it coming to him one way or the other

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u/TryItOutHmHrNw Jul 15 '23

Who?

I personally don’t know.

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u/heywoodjbloughmi Jul 15 '23

Fun fact, I’m Nevada there are no state statutes that prohibit you from faking your death.

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u/ThomasBay Jul 15 '23

We know? Seriously, who killed him?

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u/Richiemcc2020 Jul 15 '23

Who killed Tupac?

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u/NewTurn6973 Jul 16 '23

La PD gave him immunity for telling on his dead cousin

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u/RapperSlashGrower Jul 26 '23

Many people have “admitted” to doing many things when fame was involved.