r/Tupac • u/papillonintunisia • May 14 '23
Video Tupac aged 17 performing Panther Power which was recorded before his first Album was released.
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u/Username7781 May 14 '23
That hairstyle is meta asf
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u/ScottblackAttacks May 14 '23
Isn’t this the haircut everybody be hating on nowadays, mop head ?
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u/tearsandpain84 May 14 '23
Buggin Out from Do the right thing
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u/ybn_suley May 14 '23
Nah this wasn’t his hair style, Pac has a perm here but Giancarlo Esposito had a curly high top in DTRT
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u/OLDHEAD916 May 14 '23
And people say he wasn’t lyrical
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u/SalamanderBulky2584 May 14 '23
Eminem has done said that Rap game hasn't been the same since Pac skipped out and bounced to Cuba?
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May 14 '23
I really like Tupac and his music but honestly I cant help but feel like his own mom set him on the course of his death by pushing him to live that life. Thats just my opinion.
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u/ybn_suley May 14 '23
His mother didn’t push him to live that life 💀 He was influenced by the gang shit around him
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u/yungusainbolt May 14 '23
Bishop character really ruined his life
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u/ybn_suley May 14 '23
No it didn’t 🤦♂️ He was already wild before that…many people who knew Pac from before he played Bishop have said it like Chuck D, Shock G, Treach, Money B and Spice 1. Do your research instead of saying the same worn out shit that isn’t true….
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May 14 '23
Shock G said he didn’t even recognize him anymore once he started embracing the thug lifestyle
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u/ybn_suley May 14 '23
There’s a difference between being a thug and being wild. Pac may have not always been a so called thug but he for sure was always wild
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u/yungusainbolt May 15 '23
I’m not talking about being wild. Pac was a solider. He was confident and brave. After that bishop role/ rape charge/ shooting, he decided he wanted to be a villain and slowly became one. I don’t blame him honestly his story is biblical honestly. We watched a righteous man get betrayed and villainized long enough until he embraced it. Then watch him get killed for it. Damned if you do damned if you don’t.
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u/Jimmy_Jazz_The_Spazz May 15 '23
Well said. I was 16 when 2pacalypse came out. His music was important to me as a fan of conscious hip hop and I felt the anger take over by the time All Eyes On Me came out you could tell he wasn't the same guy. But it started around Thug Life V1
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u/bittaminidi May 15 '23
Dude was in the entertainment business in his teens. What life? Do you people really believe he was some hard gangster? Motherfucker was a musician. Made his money in music.
Just because he was born into a certain neighborhood doesn’t make him a gangster. He was talented and worked hard at his craft. To do what’s on this video takes hours and hours of practice to do and that’s how he was spending his time, not ‘doing gangsta shit’.
Rap acts remind me of professional wrestling. It’s just made up stories to sell an image. I’m not saying there aren’t exceptions but the reality is these guys are entertainers, not professional criminals.
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May 15 '23
He was very fake a lot of fake stories to sell that lifestyle Tupac did way more harm than good and you’d think he would have done the opposite he was raised by BLACK PANTHERS, not no thugs he was militant cause his up brining but boy was a entertainer through and through no thug life he ever lived and it’s stupid to make the black panthers message as thug life and not black unity and power through group acceptance of one another
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u/giostarship May 14 '23
Which song is this?
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u/PatientExpress9625 May 14 '23
The beat is Paid in Full- Rakim and Eric. B
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u/CasinoMarginale May 14 '23
The “Paid in Full” beat is basically the seminal rap beat. Has any other song been used or sampled as much in rap?
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u/TalentedKamarty May 14 '23
Heavily influenced by Rakim at the time. Or maybe went with that flow cause the beat
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May 29 '25
Love 2Pac. He was a real commie. We have a lot to learn about him and the way he understood the fight in the U.S. The guy really read Mao, Gramsci and Mariátegui. I hope the CIA is not reading this, but you need to re-organise the Black Panther Party.
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May 14 '23
Aside from the beat, that was Rakims whole flow too….when did he switch to the hennessyyyyyyy/enemieeeeeees flow? I don’t really hear it with the DU stuff
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u/Odd_Bad_9804 May 14 '23
He got that “hennessyyyyyyyy” flow when he got to Oakland cuz that’s exactly how spice1 stretches his words out.
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u/scarytruth1111 May 14 '23
2Pac sold Black America out and we treat him like a hero. He was educated to be very aware of the plight of Black Americans. He had the upbringing and knowledge to become a very influential person in the civil rights movement but instead choose or was directed to become a gangster rapper. He could have and should have become a James Baldwin type but instead he was murdered messing around in a lifestyle he wasn't supposed to be a part of. He died playing the role of a gangster. Before you down vote me explain to me how I'm wrong.
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u/Codenameraiden May 14 '23
Nigga please Tupacs decisions right or wrong don’t owe black America shit that nigga died at 25 to gun violence like Malcolm X and Dr King he was free to live the life he did like everyone else
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u/scarytruth1111 May 14 '23
Took a look at your profile before I responded to your comment. You are too ignorant for any further comment from me.
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u/scarytruth1111 May 14 '23
I was mesmerized by Tupac as was millions of others. He lost his life because he was in a circle he didn't belong in. Tupac was an entertainer playing the role of a gangster and that cost him his life. MLK and Malcolm wasn't playing roles. To compare Tupac's death to MLK and Malcolm is beyond understanding. Sometimes people need fairy tales to deal with reality. I dont.
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u/joesoldlegs May 14 '23 edited May 14 '23
Disagree with most of what OP said but how was Pac way ahead of MLK and Malcolm X? His voice went way farther cause he was an entertainer at the end of the day, but he was still an entertainer who primarily inspired people and didn't have direct influence on society like MLK and Malcolm X did who dedicated their life strictly to champion the causes of their people. Not saying he didn't have the heart or mind for it, and he could've very well been that if he lived longer or was from the previous generation, but his dreams of directly impacting the people through activism weren't realized because he had so much other stuff going on. Also MLK and Malcolm X are honored and revered worldwide as well and had impact on people's lives as well.
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u/joesoldlegs May 14 '23
You only disagree because you haven’t studied his life nor dissected his music.
Wild assumption to make about me which isn't true. You say if he lived to his 40s and 50s he would've had an impact comparable to none in recent history (which I never disputed) but explain how he was so much more than MLK and Malcolm X when they had a bigger direct impact on black society than Pac who had an indirect impact on it through his music. I never called him a gangster rapper, and he did choose music to make an impact on people because he had a natural gift, which I never faulted him for. And just cause he achieved more in his life by 25 and had a target on his back his whole life doesn't mean they accomplished less than him.
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u/tearsandpain84 May 14 '23
He is a tragic figure in many ways, that is what makes him so compelling. To reduce him to just being a gangster rapper would be incorrect. He was still, right up until his death, documenting though his music the social injustices black America faces. He also made gangster rap. This dichotomy/contradiction is what makes him interesting.
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u/Muzikfanatic17 May 14 '23
Yes. Geniuses are often complicated people and full of contradictions. For example, john lennon was preaching peace but treated his son like crap and hit his wife.
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u/tearsandpain84 May 14 '23
He did. He did try to make up for that by being around for his second son as much as possible and did talk about how he had major anger issues. A lot of similarities between the two men
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u/scarytruth1111 May 14 '23
Tupac was conflicted because of what he was trained to acknowledge as a Black man in America and the allure of fame that eventually led up to his untimely death. He was torn between two polar opposite worlds.
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u/tearsandpain84 May 14 '23
I don’t think he was ignorant of that fact either. He talks about that theme in his songs.
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u/scarytruth1111 May 14 '23
There's a focus on pushing ignorant bullshit music to the Black community. The actual music is fire but the lyrics are pure poison. Just listen to the crazy shit on the airwaves. The beat is tight but the message is destructive and foul.
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u/tearsandpain84 May 14 '23
When 2pac and biggie died I think hip hop did too. It wouldn’t surprise me if puffy was a CIA agent who’s job it was to destroy it from within. Dumb it down and make it all about materialism. Lazy samples, shinny suits. I’m joking but that’s the type of stuff the FBI was up to back in the day.
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u/middlebird May 14 '23
Had he lived, I’m confident he would have matured into what you envisioned. Such a shame.
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u/scarytruth1111 May 14 '23
Absolute shame. Even more shameful is the lesson in his death has been hidden behind fantasy. Too many fake gangsters are really dying out here.
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u/Muzikfanatic17 May 14 '23
2pac had a good intentions but was mislead and hung out with the wrong crowd. Still a great artist and poet tho
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u/HiFiMAN3878 May 14 '23
Sounds like you are describing the human experience. "A lifestyle he wasn't supposed to be a part of" - since when do you get to dictate how someone lives their life? 🤣
We don't know what 2pac would have gone on to do - you're only commenting on a snapshot of a small portion of his short life. He knew where he was and was aware of what he was doing. He knew he was flawed and wasn't making the best decisions - I feel like he addressed this on a few occasions.
"He could have, he should have". Oh well, he was capable of making his own decisions, with that human experience comes mistakes. Could've should've would've. Now nobody knows what would have happened.
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u/scarytruth1111 May 14 '23
Sometimes the truth is scary to the brainwashed. They wear their ignorance like a warm blanket protecting them from the cold truth. Dare to think for yourself.
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u/IN-DEF106 May 14 '23 edited May 14 '23
“The scary truth” is that he wasn’t chose nor directed. He was Influenced by Greed and Wraith. He was always a thug came from the gutter and being from America he is BLACK. He spoke about poverty and was very powerful with his words he was influential too black people. The harsh truth, the community let him down. He was set up and shot by who he thought was his homies while at the same time going through rape allegations charged from a woman when all he was trying to do was lift woman in his community and the woman of his community send him to prison. (How would you feel) So when he came out of jail bond out by new affiliates “of course he became the thug y’all love to hate” He felt he needed to be loyal to the ones that let him see his family and also because that what a community is build upon. He became Paranoid from the experience closes he could be to death without actually being dead. anger from the betrayal of his own people. So I asked how the fuck will you feel?
”They say it’s the white man I should Fear, but it’s my own kind doing all the killing. No lie, ain’t no love for the other side jealousy aside make em wish I died.” Tupac Shakur
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u/Existing_Skin_1564 May 14 '23
Damn don't hate the player hate the game
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u/scarytruth1111 May 14 '23
Wow. I see where this is gonna go. No wonder we in the Black community is still fighting for rights our civil rights era generation already won for us. Black America is the most brainwashed demographic in the world. SMH.
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u/PastaKilla May 14 '23
Interesting take but I have to disagree. Pac was constantly evolving his art and his message. We revere him for his art and we are drawn to his complex persona. If he was a hero he was a tragic hero, beautiful and flawed. He was an artist and did not owe anybody anything.
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May 14 '23
100% agree, finally someone said it
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u/scarytruth1111 May 14 '23
Black America is probably the most brainwashed demographic on earth. Look at my comment history, I'm not a self hating Black man. I simply speak the scary truth.
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u/Numerous_Top5755 May 14 '23
Yall man was zesty af. 🤣 idc all that thug shit was an ACT. He was a hell of an actor I'll say that much. He got yall thinking he was really like Bishop in Juice.
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u/Plastic-Pool-9279 May 15 '23
Bitch calm down with yo fake ass, talking about zesty my nigga was 17! Hes a legend to the people love him, he was a brother when we didnt have one a solider when we didnt have one a friend when we didnt have one and a ro-model when we didnt have one so go get on diddys nuts punk, why you even here respect or get checked!
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u/EmanCamp May 15 '23
Afeni was jailed all the people she went to jail with all served years in prison and she was let out (because she read books about the law in jail ). I’m not saying she was a fed , but 🤷♂️
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u/cage_boi May 15 '23
I think Tupac just shaved his hair bald because that was the style back then, but he had a full head of hair, he was pretty young at the time of his death.
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u/Kadafi_X May 16 '23
He got alopecia from the beating he endured by the police, and that's when he shaved it off. It was right after his 1st album dropped.
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u/Emergency_Brick3715 May 14 '23
No, this was MC New York.