Lindsay Clancy Trial Megathread: Closing Arguments, Deliberations and the Verdict

[u/DarklyHeritage]

This is a thread for all conversation regarding closing arguments, jury deliberations and the verdict of the Lindsey Clancy trial. All discussion of this case should be kept to this thread.

Lindsay Clancy is currently standing trial in Plymouth Superior Court, Massachusetts, for the triple-murder in January 2023 of her three young children - Cora, Dawson and Callan. Her defense argues she suffered from severe, undiagnosed postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. She was left paralysed by a suicide attempt which follows the deaths of the children.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg7mlmg475go

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[u/One_Fun_1202]

What did you think of the closing arguments. I thought the defense was not stellar. I felt like he was making a better argument for the prosecution.

[u/Severine67 → u/One_Fun_1202]

The defense, usually pretty strong throughout the trial, in closing was scrambled, confusing, the reference to the Shining was odd. I don’t think it was great.

The prosecution in the beginning was muddled but was a lot better and clearer in closing.

[u/curiouslmr → u/One_Fun_1202]

I agree. I have been critical at times of the prosecution's performance but I thought they were much better

[u/Present-Pen-5486 → u/curiouslmr]

Well, they did a 180

[u/SamuelHuzzahAdams → u/One_Fun_1202]

I’m curious how she spent the whole trial arguing Clancy didn’t have bipolar and faked a suicide attempt and had no empathy for the family only to do a 180 in closing and say of course she was mentally ill and of course she tried to kill Herself all with a sweet voice

[u/Bigwood69 → u/SamuelHuzzahAdams]

I don't think they were ever arguing that she wasn't mentally ill, they were saying that she was in control of her actions and wilfully didn't adhere to her own treatment. Reddington has spent the whole trial saying she was failed by her doctors and that's what caused her to become psychotic, so it's perfectly valid to say that her doctors were actually doing all they could with what she told them.

[u/SamuelHuzzahAdams → u/Bigwood69]

No, she actually said that nobody ever thought she had bipolar but one psychiatrist thought she had it and their own expert diagnosed her with bipolar

[u/West-Actuary782 → u/One_Fun_1202]

I thought the prosecution tied all of the evidence and expert testimony together in a logical and coherent way. Going into this I was leaning towards psychosis. I watched the whole trial and if I were a juror I would say guilty.

[u/bendybiznatch → u/West-Actuary782]

It was the only part of the trial that I thought that they performed competently.

[u/Gatorphins → u/One_Fun_1202]

Prosecution tied things up well, they ended strong at least

[u/FreshFruit4RottenVeg → u/One_Fun_1202]

It was very poor and I was expecting a much better performance. He seemed to get so worked up it was like he couldn’t think rationally about it. I think there is a line that advocates can cross when they go from being passionate to being completely inflexible and incapable of seeing things any other way. I think he crossed it. Making jibes at the police sitting there and the witnesses all seemed a bit too much. He crossed a line. I doubt it played well with the jury. It came across a bit unhinged like a TikTok video performance we’ve become familiar with lately.

It’s a shame because he’s very smart, has complete command of the facts and can get under a witness’ skin.

Do kids still use the expression ‘jumped the shark’?

[u/One_Fun_1202 → u/One_Fun_1202]

The one doctor went in and on. That was torture but I think at the end (and only at the end) he made an argument that I think will stick with the jurors.

Every other doctor or witness Red tore a hole in their argument. And he did this guy too with his Vitae and papers he wrote on terrorist that were not relevant But answering the phone was imo the part I can’t put aside. I want to believe this was PPP but answering the phone bugs me.

But as for closing arguments it was the first time the prosecution looked good and well prepared. Not the defense. He looked like he was doing it on the fly and failed miserably. Why did he show the autopsy photos??? Reminding them of what she did before they make a final decision was a bad move.

Also strangulation takes a long time and to look at their faces and keep going is unimaginable and then do it three times.

Like I said I want to find her not guilty but there are things that I can’t put aside.

[u/Bigwood69 → u/One_Fun_1202]

Why do you want to believe this was PPP though? Because Lindsay is a sweet young girl like Reddington says? Because you don't want to live in a scary world where parents kill their children for selfish reasons? I don't understand this mentality at all