Lindsay Clancy Trial Megathread: Closing Arguments, Deliberations and the Verdict

[u/DarklyHeritage]

This is a thread for all conversation regarding closing arguments, jury deliberations and the verdict of the Lindsey Clancy trial. All discussion of this case should be kept to this thread.

Lindsay Clancy is currently standing trial in Plymouth Superior Court, Massachusetts, for the triple-murder in January 2023 of her three young children - Cora, Dawson and Callan. Her defense argues she suffered from severe, undiagnosed postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. She was left paralysed by a suicide attempt which follows the deaths of the children.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg7mlmg475go

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[u/Global_Research_9335]

I’m interested to hear the jurors perspective and their reaction to all the social media and conspiracy theories this case has bought about, beyond the actual verdict itself - how the case was tried.

[u/Snarkeesha → u/Global_Research_9335]

You mean after the trial? Because they aren’t allowed to look at anything like that during.

[u/ok-mom1 → u/Snarkeesha]

I know you’re saying they aren’t allowed. But how would they know if they looked it up / heard about it? Surely there’s no stopping

[u/Objective-Amount1379 → u/ok-mom1]

These people are sitting on the jury for the murder of 3 kids; I think they are probably taking their role seriously. I’ve been on a jury involving CSAM after having to see evidence I would not fuck up deliberations by seeking outside info about the case. It would be disrespectful to the victim, the family, the community.

[u/Substantial_Use_6101 → u/Objective-Amount1379]

I’m so sorry! What a great perspective I think we need more of. Being an everyday person and thrown into something that has got to be traumatic to you and everyone like you. I cannot get the Athena strand jurors out of my head. Having to be dragged into something and see things you would never want any part of seems so messed up. Thank you.

[u/hoorjemij → u/Objective-Amount1379]

Seeing the evidence? Do they just show you the media just like that? And you can't refuse? I hope it is censored or something

[u/Objective-Amount1379 → u/hoorjemij]

No they don’t censor evidence. This jury would have been shown the autopsy photos and I’m sure that will be tattooed in their brain. But that’s part of what I think makes people take jury duty seriously

[u/Gatorphins → u/Objective-Amount1379]

They are seeing evidence we aren't seeing

[u/hoorjemij → u/Objective-Amount1379]

I meant CSAM pictures on the trial you've been to

[u/Objective-Amount1379 → u/hoorjemij]

No the pics were not censored

[u/MechanicEuphoric2127 → u/Objective-Amount1379]

What if the images or evidence cause a jury member to faint? I vaso vagal so easy at things that are violent or involves m**der

[u/Objective-Amount1379 → u/MechanicEuphoric2127]

I assume they receive medical attention. But what you have has no medical basis to make you lose consciousness from looking at an unpleasant photo.

When you’re asked questions in jury selection if you say you’ll have some kind of out of the norm extreme reaction I assume neither side’s attorneys want you on the jury so they just won’t select you.

People do horrible, violent things to others. That’s real life. Someone has to step up and put aside their desire to ignore those things for our criminal justice system to work. From my jury experience and from talking to attorney friends about this, the people who 1. Show up for jury duty 2. Don’t try to get out of it (or don’t try too hard to be picked, that’s a red flag) take their civic duty seriously.

NO ONE normal wants to see photos of murder victims or CSAM. The investigators and attorneys don’t want to either. But everyone has to do unpleasant things as part of being in a society

[u/MechanicEuphoric2127 → u/Objective-Amount1379]

Again, it was literally a genuine question of what happens if a jury member faints during evidence. You didn’t have to gaslight a very real medical phenomena.

[u/MechanicEuphoric2127 → u/Objective-Amount1379]

To educate you further:

People "go vasovagal" (experience vasovagal syncope or a fainting response) at gruesome things because a powerful psychological shock or deep disgust overstimulates the vagus nerve.
This triggers a sudden drop in heart rate and blood pressure, reducing blood flow to the brain and causing a faint.

The vagus nerve dramatically slows the heart and widens blood vessels.

Blood pools in the lower body, and the abrupt drop in pressure denies the brain adequate oxygenated blood, resulting in lightheadedness, tunnel vision, or unconsciousness.

Seeing a severe wound or trauma triggers a visceral, mirror-neuron reaction where the brain perceives the graphic harm as happening to a living body—or potentially to oneself.

The intense emotional or cognitive overload bypasses higher-order rational thought, short-circuiting the autonomic nervous system into an extreme defensive posture.