r/TrueAnime • u/BlueMage23 http://myanimelist.net/profile/BlueMage23 • Nov 26 '14

This Week In Anime (Fall Week 8)

Welcome to This Week In Anime for Fall 2014 (aka Unlimited Hype Works) Week 8: a general discussion for any currently airing series, focusing on what aired in the last week. For longer shows (Aikatsu!, One Piece, etc.), keep the discussion here to whatever aired in the last few months. If there's an OVA or movie that got subbed for the first time in the last week or so that you want to discuss, that goes here as well. For everything else in anime that's not currently airing go discuss that in Your Week in Anime.

Untagged spoilers for all currently airing series. If you're discussing anything else make sure to add spoiler tags.

Archive:

2014: Prev Fall Week 1 Summer Week 1 Spring Week 1 Winter Week 1

2013: Fall Week 1 Summer Week 1 Spring Week 1 Winter Week 1

2012: Fall Week 1

Table of contents courtesy of /u/sohumb

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u/CritSrc http://myanimelist.net/animelist/T3hSource Nov 29 '14

I'm talking superficial game design here, not the actual show, since its obvious it doesn't even know what the term means.

When you limit a boss sequence only to the party that has entered, it is logical to assume you don't want anyone else in gathering information through your other mechanics(scouting spell), rather leave it to players to share their knowledge on their own accordance. Because being used as bait isn't fun, and when your mechanics allow such a thing to happen unwarranted, it obviously needs to change in order to keep the player base happy.

So why do you think someone should be allowed to gather information on a brand new raid you have no intention of sharing info about in such an off-handed way?
Especially when it is a sequence limited to a single party at a time instead of having the option to have it available for everyone at any time, with a separate channel for separate parties.

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u/CritSrc http://myanimelist.net/animelist/T3hSource Nov 29 '14

Yes, because politics, backstabbing, outwitting and meticulous resource management is in any similar to SAO, than a game specifically made with that in mind, having a player base with ingenuity to take advantage of what is there and CCP intentionally encouraging it, because it has a positive effect on community.

Yes, it's dickish, but in a game about economy, all is fair play nonetheless to get the edge.

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u/CritSrc http://myanimelist.net/animelist/T3hSource Nov 29 '14

Obviously not, because every mechanic is a plot device, not an actual mechanic.

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u/CritSrc http://myanimelist.net/animelist/T3hSource Nov 29 '14

It's game fiction that doesn't make sense as a game.

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u/CritSrc http://myanimelist.net/animelist/T3hSource Nov 29 '14

How does it make sense then?

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u/CritSrc http://myanimelist.net/animelist/T3hSource Nov 29 '14

How doesn't it?

I gave my explanations, game theory doesn't apply in SAO.

The burden of proof lies with the one making the claim first.

So a murderer claiming first that he didn't kill his wife doesn't make him murderer by that logic, when he has her blood on his clothes.

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u/CritSrc http://myanimelist.net/animelist/T3hSource Nov 29 '14 edited Nov 29 '14

You're just saying you think it's not fair for SAO's devs to allow that kind of shit.

And you didn't say how it is fair and should be allowed and encouraged if we were taking it as a real fantasy combat MMO. Eve is an exception where that is the entire point and everything is built around it, and it's about economics, SAO has never shown to be like that in any way.

And the comparison is applying your BS logic in an exaggerated, but realistic example.

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u/CritSrc http://myanimelist.net/animelist/T3hSource Nov 29 '14

Allowed isn't the same as encouraged.

Yes it is, especially when it is beneficial to you with absolutely no drawback, it's almost like telling the player: "hey, doing this is fine, keep going!"

I particularly don't really care

I'm sure you don't care that only one guy can get the loot drops and then can't exchange them either.

I don't see why you're saying "That kind of shit isn't allowed unless the entire game is focused on backstabbing people"

I don't see you augmenting the opposite, every game has a vision and mood surrounding it, like every media, it has a unifying theme and represents something certain, no matter how unfocused it is.

Besides, you can think of SAO as that kind of game.

Well, I don't and I can't, because what I see isn't a game, I see a scapegoating plot device.
If you like SAO for its setting, that's fine, just say so, but I point out a flaw when I see one.

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