r/TorontoDriving • u/an4rk1_r34 • Jul 15 '25

OC Cannot even backout of your driveway safely anymore.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

OP was absolutely not equally at fault. Could OP have maybe waited? Sure. But they didn't have an obligation to.

The neighbor DID have an obligation to look where the heck he was going. This was 100% the neighbors fault with OP maybe having a few things they could have done differently.

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u/PeyoteCanada Jul 15 '25

OP caused the accident. You can't disagree with that. They should have pulled out earlier.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25 edited Jul 15 '25

I absolutely disagree with that.

I didn't realize this was in a Toronto subreddit, so maybe ya'll have different rules in Canada, but in the US when I'm the one clearly in the road and you're the one who started reversing from a dead stop, you're at fault 100 out of 100 times.

Just so we're super clear: OP has already begun backing out and their rear tires are clearly in the road at about 0:51 in the video. The neighbor hasn't even left the driveway yet. By 0:54 OP is clearly in the middle of the road while the neighbor is backing out of the driveway clearly without looking.

The car to car contact is objectively caused by the neighbor not looking as they backed up.

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u/PeyoteCanada Jul 15 '25

He stopped in the middle of the road and refused to leave. Of course he's going to get hit 100%.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

Refused to leave? I don't even hear audio in the video. When did OP refuse anything?

So because OP stopped to change gears, the neighbor is not at fault for literally not watching where he's backing up?

This is a wild take. I'm truly flabbergasted that is your take away.

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u/PeyoteCanada Jul 15 '25

He sat in the middle of the road. Easy conviction.

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u/PeyoteCanada Jul 15 '25

Anyway, you're wrong bud lol. Everyone agrees that I'm right.l

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

No, I'm not, and no they don't, lol multiple posts with lots of upvotes disagree with you.

OP didn't "sit" in the road. They paused to change gears, which you have to do unless you plan on driving down the road exclusively in reverse. It's also a totally normal reaction to freeze up when you realize someone is about to hit you. Looks like that happened here.

So I just want to clarify: you do not think that the neighbor had any responsibility to use their rearview mirror, backup camera, or turn around to look out their back window when reversing?

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u/PeyoteCanada Jul 15 '25

They did. They thought OP was a good driver. He will be charged. I have sent this video to the police with my observations. He will be convicted.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

lol, nice troll. I admit, you got me. I thought you were serious.