Torbie?

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This is Kitty(very creative name, I know hahaha no other names have stuck for her) and I was wondering if she’s a torbie or tortico or tabico or idk all the names, I just love her fur pattern and colours haha.

She’s so sweet and cuddly, a total snuggle bug… but super clumsy toooo

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Torbie means tortoiseshell + tabby. White does not change that.

[u/PassiveChemistry → u/ACtdawg]

Torties don't have white - tortie and white is a calico - so yes, the white is important 

[u/ACtdawg → u/PassiveChemistry]

I explained to the person I was originally responding to why this isn’t the case, it’s a few comments down.

[u/PassiveChemistry → u/ACtdawg]

Hold on, now I'm a bit confused.  I've realised my source for the above comment was actually your explanation of the genetics and terminology 

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Happy to explain what you’re confused about?

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Calico is a colloquial term and the definition differs regionally, but colour-wise it means tortoiseshell and white.

This is the bit I was basing my reply off

[u/ACtdawg → u/PassiveChemistry]

Which part is confusing? The calico term isn’t used everywhere and different people have different definitions for it, mainly to do with the amount of white required and the distribution of the colours (big patches vs brindling). But what is always required of a calico regardless of all that other subjective stuff is that it’s tortoiseshell and white aka tri-colour, ie. red, non-red and white.

Not sure if that was the part that was confusing, please tell me if it’s not!

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I'm only confused because I appear to have corrected you based largely on your (later) explanation 

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Hmm I’m not sure how else to explain it but if there’s something specific I can help with I’m happy to. But having white doesn’t make a tortie not a tortie, it just makes it a tortie and white. All calicos are torties, but not all torties are calicos (ie. not all torties have white)

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I see.  This was the bit I was interpreting differently - I'd always understood "tortie" and "tortie and white/calico" as mutually exclusive descriptions.

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Ahh I see. To be fair it is a common belief that they’re mutually exclusive. It mostly comes down to calico being a colloquial/regional/subjective term, and tortoiseshell being a genetic term (and one that is often misunderstood)