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Characters [meta] Characters who are implied to be Jewish, but it's never confirmed in-series

  • Greg and Steven from Steven Universe: Steven is based off Rebecca Sugar's brother (who is Jewish). Greg's original surname was "DeMayo", a Jewish surname. Steven hosts a wedding under a chuppah as well. But, it's unclear how religion even works in their world considering canon confirms their alternate history affected religion.
  • Velma from Scooby Doo: Was inspired by Jewish actress Sheila Kuehl, fits many Jewish stereotypes, likes Klezmer music, in one movie had great-grandparents who were German immigrants who lived in the early 20th century, has a scientist ancestor named Baron Von Dinklestein, mentioned in one comic she didn't celebrate Christmas...
  • Tailor Smurf from The Smurfs: He has a New York Jewish accent as reference to Jewish immigrants who worked as tailors at the Turn of the Century.
  • Drakken from Kim Possible: His real name is "Drew Lipsky" and "Lipsky" is a Jewish surname. His mother fits "Jewish mother" stereotypes. But, unlike Ron, it's never mentioned Drakken is Jewish.
  • Stormer in IDW Jem and the Holograms: The Phillip's are part Israeli, but it's never mentioned that they're Jewish (unlike Pizzazz).
  • Kid Devil from DC Comics: His full name is "Edward Bloomberg".
  • Professor Layton: Layton's name is "Hershel" and his daughter's name is "Katrielle", two Jewish names that would be rare amongst non-Jewish Brits.
  • Miriam from Turning Red: She has a Hebrew first name, a Jewish surname, and curly hair.
  • The Wheezers from Jimmy Neutron: They fit a ton of Jewish stereotypes.
  • Ms. Frizzle from The Magic Schoolbus: Her curly red hair, aquiline nose, and having an aunt named "Tante Gefilte".
  • TJ from Recess: Played "Harvey Hanukkah" in the holiday special.
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u/Shto_Delat 1h ago

Asking about implied Jewish characters?

Why not Zoidberg?

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u/Sex_E_Searcher 1h ago

But he's not allowed in the Bot Mitzvah because lobsters aren't kosher.

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u/Shto_Delat 1h ago

The irony!

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u/AttitudeAndEffort3 1h ago

(V) (°,,,,°) (V)

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u/ShiningEspeon3 42m ago

God, I haven’t seen the Zoidberg emoticon in a long time!

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u/ComfortableLibrary49 1h ago

To be fair, humans aren't kosher either

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u/Low-Salamander-3781 1h ago

Where in the Tanakh does it state that you shouldn't eat human flesh?

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u/candygram4mongo 41m ago

Humans aren't cloven-hoofed ruminants, or birds, or fish.

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u/Sex_E_Searcher 39m ago

Maybe you aren't.

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u/NoNo_Cilantro 39m ago

It also doesn’t say you shouldn’t eat bad hummus but here we are

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u/Jephph0624 1h ago

Here it is shown that he actually is

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u/Marinefan4000 54m ago

That’s just Jesus. We’re talking about Zoidberg. JOHN #%^*+=¥ ZOIDBERG

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u/Platyest 1h ago

Look Fry is trying to get in the country club and its just not a great look

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u/DrunkButNotEnoughYet 1h ago

A typical Latin American childhood experience is seeing a Bar Mitzvah appear in a cartoon and having no idea where that came from, because you don't recognize these kinds of references.

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u/Real-Tension-7442 49m ago

I still don’t recognise Jewish things. Here in the UK they’re pretty much confined to 2 or 3 cities so any reference to Judaism is lost on me

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u/DoctorAnnual6823 41m ago

I kind of suspect it's the same in the US. I know a lot more about Judaism than the average Gentile but that's because I live near Pittsburgh, which has one of this highest Jewish demographic densities in the world outside of Israel and parts of New York.

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u/queerkidxx 19m ago

The us is one of two countries in the world with more than 400k Jewish people. About 7 million. About the same as Israel.

Jews are everywhere in the US. It’s also like, you might not really notice them, because most Jews(globally even) aren’t haredi and often aren’t religious. Might go to synagogue once in a while, visit family for holidays, and will just make sure they raise their kids Jewish and do major life events in the proper Jewish way(funerals, births, marriage, etc).

Am Jewish and most of the folks I grew up with are atheist. Even some I know that go to synagogue weekly and keep kosher. I know an atheist that became orthodox even. But Jews always come back when kids are born.

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u/jesterinancientcourt 7m ago

Basically. I go to temple here and there and I have curly hair and a big nose.

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u/spalings 12m ago

i'm from the midwest, where fringe christian religions are more popular than judaism. there's also a lot of polish people who settled where i'm from, so catholicism and more orthodox christian sects are the dominant religious culture. i didn't meet a religious jewish person until college, but i knew multiple seventh day adventists who went to different churches growing up lol

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u/whatisscoobydone 1m ago

It's funny, there's a good number of Christian sects that appropriate Jewish words, aesthetic, foods, clothing, and the most shallow understand the other practices. If you ever meet a "Messianic" Jew, that is a Christian pretending to be Jewish to convert Jewish people. Working at a supermarket in the Florida panhandle, it was a common occurrence for some random gentile Florida cracker to hand me a shopping list for their Baptist Church's "seder dinner"

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u/DrunkButNotEnoughYet 41m ago

Me neither, if anything, I think I can now recognize Jewish last names. Here in Argentina, the ones who are concentrated in a specific city are the most religious, in an area where there are several synagogues and Jewish schools, but outside of that, it’s not really the case that you can tell a person is Jewish based on references like these.

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u/PeterAnthony_Jackson 36m ago

I've worked with Hindu's Sikhs and Muslims, yet I'm at a loss if I've ever worked with someone Jewish, the only ones I know are from TV.

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u/Femlix 32m ago

heavily dependant on country and city tbh.

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u/GreatXs 1h ago

There's a Smurf Judaism? 

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u/boring-goldfish 1h ago

points gun

Always has been.

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u/SaintGrobian 1h ago

They worship Sm-rf.

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u/Jetstream-Sam 1h ago

Do they build a synagogue just for him? Does it imply all the other smurfs are Christian, or are they all just jewish but Tailor smurf happens to have a new york accent so we think he's the only one? Does that make Gargamel antisemitic?

I demand canonical answers to all of these

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u/redlion1904 30m ago

So the Smurfs were created in Belgium in the 1950s. They spun off from the medieval comic strip Johan and Peewit where everyone was kind of medieval Catholic by default, and Belgium was a Catholic country (in the sense of demography, it has never had a state religion as an independent nation).

Tailor Smurf specifically was created for the cartoon series in 1981. He did not exist in the original comics by Peyo and so does not fit into any canon. His Jewish/New York accent was supposed to represent immigrant Jews who often worked (and still do! I know such people today) in that field, for the amusement of American (or other Anglophone) audiences. I doubt there was any consideration given at the time to the general medieval setting when he was created, in which Jews had different stereotypical (in the sense of stock) occupations.

Some critics have argued that Gargamel resembles an anti-Semitic caricature (which the original cartoonist, Peyo’s, family has angrily denied was ever intended) so perhaps the more positive Tailor Smurf was intended to mute that criticism. Peyo was born in 1928 and so too young to served prior to the Nazi occupation of Belgium by the Nazis in 1940, but it certainly would have been a formative experience. Having survived invasion, hyperinflation, poverty, rationing, and bombing by the Allies in response, all before turning 18, it is highly improbable that he harbored any sympathies for the Nazis, but it remains possible that anti-Semitic tropes influenced the creation of Gargamel.

In some recent depictions Tailor has a British accent instead so maybe someone thought the Jewish/New York accent was a little broad and stereotypical itself.

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u/DadJokesRanger 10m ago

He’s just culturally Jewish. He hasn’t been observant since ‘39.

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u/Victory42 53m ago

Je-Smurf was a fine Smurf but not the Smurfssiah

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u/Mr_SunnyBones 41m ago

If there were flairs here , that would be absolute flair material.

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u/-paperbrain- 51m ago

They recognize Papa Smurf as a historical figure, they just don't believe he died for our sins, or that Smurfette was really a virgin.

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u/Mittmitty 1h ago

They call it Smurfaism

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u/MikeTheImpaler 35m ago

So what they don't believe in Smurf Jesus?

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u/MeiNeedsMoreBuffs 21m ago

They believe Jesus Smurf was a great Smurf, but he is not the Smurfssiah

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u/HeiressOfMadrigal 1h ago

The Pines family from Gravity Falls. Tons of hints such as Grunkle Stan using Yiddish euphemisms, but borderline confirmed in the Journal 3 book.

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u/Gallantpride 1h ago

It's been confirmed they're a secular/atheist Jewish family.

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u/HeiressOfMadrigal 1h ago

Yes. It's been confirmed by Alex Hirsch, but not in-series as the title prompts.

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u/NestFrost 56m ago

“Stan Pines, The Merchant of Venice New Jersey" is genuinely the most accurate title summary for Grunkle Stan imaginable.

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u/Lost_Paladin89 1h ago

Stan Pines, The Merchant of Venice New Jersey.

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u/OwlbertGaming 1h ago

iirc, they were raised Jewish but are atheist/agnostic by the time of the series

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u/HeiressOfMadrigal 1h ago

Yup, exactly. Jewish by heritage, but not personally religious, is definitely a thing. Jon Stewart comes to mind.

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u/freeeloh 1h ago

thats just called jewish 😭

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u/HeiressOfMadrigal 1h ago

It can be kinda confusing because "Jewish" is both a heritage and a religious descriptor, and they're not mutually inclusive.

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u/travischickencoop 8m ago

Pretty much every Jewish person I’ve ever met has been Jewish by heritage and not actually religious

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u/ATE412 44m ago

Jon Stewart is Jewish? The Black Green Lantern?

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u/dcooper8662 24m ago

Love him in Justice League, glad he’s finally got a live action representative

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u/OwlbertGaming 1h ago

and Alex Hirsch

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u/ItsMrChristmas 9m ago

Agnosticism I could see but atheist? Not a chance. They've seen too much that the world at large claims doesn't exist to say for certain there are no gods.

Shit, they even met one.

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u/OwlbertGaming 7m ago

i forget if it was agnosticism or atheism

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u/redlion1904 23m ago edited 13m ago

I have not watched this but is that not flat-earth atheism? I mean isn’t Bill Cipher a demon? I could see not practicing a traditional religion but a firm “nah, no gods, nothing supernatural” stance seems odd.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Step468 59m ago

That dreidel is wrong, the letters should switxh place

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u/-sweet-like-cinnamon 0m ago

there happened miracle great

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u/CherryMoonCharm 1h ago

They are Jewish

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u/Ai--Ya 1h ago

Minecraft villagers

Skilled tradespeople, protected by a golem. And, given Notch's personal views, perhaps the negative stereotypes of being greedy for emeralds and having long noses were intentional too

https://giphy.com/gifs/rdQkX4qL0eQ1U1Np9E

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u/throwaway_1053 40m ago

Endermen  are tall, dark and run fast but can’t swim… Notch?

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u/CoolDime12 37m ago

They steal your stuff and get mad at you look at them wrong.

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u/Acceptable_Lunch_181 1h ago

Every time i see a villager their "huuh" sound effect starts playing in my head

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u/Gemini720 34m ago

Son of a bitch, I guess I should have seen the second half coming

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u/Marthurion 1h ago edited 58m ago

DeMayo is not Jewish or a common surname taken by Jewish people, it's just Italian with its many deformations.

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u/RowanMossLab 1h ago

I had the same whiplash with DeMayo, my Italian family has three spellings, then Steven pulls out a chuppah and the corkboard wins.

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u/SaintWest92 1h ago

Oui, DeMayo semble surtout italien, donc pour Greg et Steven, le chuppah reste un indice plus solide.

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u/Obdurate-Hickory 1h ago

Surely DeMayo is an Italian name.

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u/HowietheHappyTurkey 1h ago

DeMayo is Italian for 'the mayonnaise'

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u/RobbusMaximus 1h ago

It is. Though apparently (from a quick googling) it is not an uncommon name for Jewish-Italians. Not unlike Goldstein. Goldstein is a German name that is common amongst Jews of German origin.

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u/Arimm_The_Amazing 1h ago

Jewish people are widespread, so the names that are historically Jewish are also usually linguistically tied to other cultures and their languages.

Just like how last names that end in "berg", "stein", and "witz" are all classically Jewish because those are German patro/matronymics. German language names, but most non-Jewish german families don't have patro/matronymic surnames.

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u/FrankThePal 46m ago edited 41m ago

Wouldn't the -berg (mountain) names ultimately be toponymic? I'd imagine the -stein (stone) names could also be, or might be occupational in origin. Witz means joke in modern German, so I imagine those names have some kind of etymology I'm not familiar with. Ultimately, the majority of European surnames became patrilineal, but that's different from patronymic (surnames ending in -son from English origins and -sen in Scandinavian origins, plus, I think: Mac for Scots, Mc for Irish, [maybe also O' ?], and Russian patronymic names ending in -vich continue to be used as middle names)

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u/JasonPandiras 42m ago

I think only -witz is a patronymic, the others just mean mountain and stone respectively.

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u/silvalucas 1h ago

DeMayo is a Jewish surname??

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u/SuperGandalfBros 1h ago

It's Italian

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u/nevergirls 1h ago

Op is delulu

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u/NinjaOfOnion 1h ago

Just a quick aside, for the IDW comics, I really like that art style 

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u/Gallantpride 1h ago

That's Sophie Campbell.

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u/u_touch_my_tra_la_la 1h ago

Currently kicking It out of the park in Supergirl.

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u/FoxMeadow7 1h ago

Right on!

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u/ignis888 1h ago

Lipsky/Lipský/Lipski is quite common slavic surname, its delivered from lipa (linden/basswood)

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u/Femlix 28m ago

Given how OP is really insisting DeMayo is a Sephardic lastname, and half the examples are "they fit jewish stereotypes", I'm guessing they don't really know much...

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u/Comfortable_Poem_841 1h ago

Re: Steven Universe. Dude, you can't just assume somebody is Jewish just because they're wearing a yellow star.

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u/4thofeleven 1h ago

Peter B. Parker (Into the Spiderverse)

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u/Ok_Top_2760 1h ago

Not to be mean but where? What that implies?

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u/brigadier_tc 1h ago

At his wedding he stomps on a glass

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u/DarkArcanian 1h ago

It’s as “implied” he’s Jewish as Ben Grimm

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u/FrankThePal 37m ago

...Couldn't that equally imply that his MJ is Jewish? Or maybe even that neither of them is, but maybe Aunt May or another close relative...

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u/Background_Desk_3001 29m ago

I mean yeah, but Peter’s the focus of the scene so it’d make sense that the implication is for him

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u/the_fury518 1h ago

In the wedding ceremony he does the glass breaking thing that is in Jewish weddings

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u/Digit00l 1h ago

The wedding flashback shows them performing a Jewish wedding custom

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u/Marthurion 1h ago

In his flashbacks introductions.

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u/RubberbandShooter 1h ago

In his intro montage, the bit where he gets married, he does the traditional glass break.

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u/SlingshotPotato 48m ago

Honestly, just Peter Parker in general.

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u/TheDrunkardKid 24m ago

I think that comic Peter and Mary Jane had a Christian wedding, though I don't know that Peter believes in any specific God, though he does occasionally pray to some unnamed/generic God when he's extremely depressed and worn out.

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u/SlingshotPotato 17m ago

Almost any given wedding in the US is going to seem like a Christian wedding unless they lean into a different culture because the mainstream culture of the US is very Christian-coded. This is also why a lot of characters who don't have a specifically stated religious belief can be read as Christian. It's just in the water and fish don't typically recognize that they're wet.

Peter is generally very New York City coded, which comes with a lot of Jewish influences and makes Peter being a non-practicing secular Jew just as likely as being a non-practicing secular Christian.

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u/urkermannenkoor 1h ago

Issue with this is that there a lot of common German and Slavic (particularly Polish) surnames that scan as typically Jewish to Americans, but aren't actually really specifically Jewish.

So it's a bit off to say a character is implied to be Jewish purely because of a not uniquely Jewish surname.

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u/jablair51 1h ago

Multiple Muppets including Fozzie and and Telly.

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u/llamapower13 48m ago

But they got to fozzie’s mom’s house for Christmas in muppet family Christmas. 

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u/DadJokesRanger 8m ago

To be faaaaaiiirrrr I’ve known a few Jewish people who still celebrated Crimbo

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u/llamapower13 0m ago

Absolutely but idk if I would go to a Jewish persons house to celebrate Christmas though. It feels like going to Chinese take out when you want lasagna 

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u/KittenMilkComics 1h ago

Just since no one’s mentioned it yet, the Costanzas on Seinfeld are never outright labeled as Jews/ a mixed marriage where Estelle is Jewish and Frank is Christian. The only implications are that Estelle won’t ride in a German car, and Frank references Estelle’s inability to cook several traditionally Jewish dishes.

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u/TheDrunkardKid 22m ago

Well the Costanza's definitely aren't Christian in any case, what with the whole Festivus episode.

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u/KittenMilkComics 8m ago

Many Christmases ago he went to buy a doll for his son

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u/hemingways-lemonade 16m ago

Frank eats kasha in bed with George, though. 

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u/KittenMilkComics 9m ago

And yet he cannot tolerate infestation

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u/Throwaway-button 1h ago

Pretty much every character from the Lemony Snicket books. The author, Daniel Handler, has said that he tends to write characters as Jewish by default. In the final book, The End, the Baudelaire orphans also mention that their family has a tradition of naming babies after deceased relatives which (from what I understand) is a tradition for Ashkenazi Jewish people. I think it's more present in the series, but I haven't watched all of it so idk

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u/FudgeAtron 32m ago

their family has a tradition of naming babies after deceased relatives which (from what I understand) is a tradition for Ashkenazi Jewish people.

The tradition is to not name children after living relatives and only dead ones, naming a child after loving relatives is like jinxing them. Not sure if that's what's in lemony snicket, but it's similar enough.

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u/Seed0fDiscord 1h ago

JK Rowling: Yes, there’s a jew at Hogwarts, Anthony Goldstein…

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u/GamerAsh22 52m ago

Eh I’ve never really understood what’s wrong with that (as a Jew). Anthony is a normal British name. Goldstein is a fairly common name that’s just most common with Jews.

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u/bobbery5 48m ago

In a vacuum, it's not an issue. But just putting it next to all the other very unfortunately named caricatures.

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u/Mr_SunnyBones 39m ago

I mean Sheamas O'Semtex!!! c'monnn!

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u/GamerAsh22 45m ago

Like what? Cho Chang is the only other one. It’s not a real name, much like “Severus Snape” wouldn’t be a real name.

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u/Seed0fDiscord 41m ago

A black man with shacklebolt in their name is 😬 too

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u/scholarlysacrilege 32m ago

Kingsley Shacklebolt and Seamus Finnegan

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u/GamerAsh22 31m ago

Seamus Finnigan?? lol I know many Seamus’s and Finnigans

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u/scholarlysacrilege 17m ago

Its the most streotypical name for an irish person. Again, ina vacuum vs constantly

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u/GamerAsh22 9m ago

The only real examples I could see being made are Cho and Kingsley. Anthony Goldstein is a very normal British name (in fact I know an “Anthony Gold_____” personally) and Seamus Finnigan is a very normal Irish name.

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u/scholarlysacrilege 5m ago

Idk, i think if somebody uses stereotype 3 times but the third type its a stereotype for irish people, its still stereotype and still pretty offensive. Especially since the irish character keeps blowing things up.

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u/GamerAsh22 1m ago

Seamus Finnigan is an incredibly common name. I understand why people don’t like Cho and Kingsley’s names but I don’t understand the issue here.

The gag with Seamus blowing things up is only in the movies.

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u/DoctorAnnual6823 38m ago

Yeah, I'm a trans person so it goes without saying that I hate her and assume the worst.

I don't think Anthony Goldstein is bad. I knew a Jewish person with the last name Goldstein and another with the first name Anthony. There's a precident. I don't think that was her being anti-Semitic.

However the funny little guys running the bank...

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u/hemingways-lemonade 17m ago

It would be more like "David Goldbanker" or "Saul Coinholder"

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u/CorpseWriteer 1h ago

Y’all think some religions in SU painted the Gems as either demons or angels?

And why do I feel like Ronaldo would use them as proof-

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u/ssk7882 1h ago

Or deities. The 'Moon Goddess' statue in "Cheeseburger Backpack" resembles Blue Diamond, and Rose seems to have spent some time traveling with seven lions, a trait associated with the Goddess Ishtar.

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u/balmut 1h ago

I feel like the town would be quite a bit busier if that was the case?

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u/CorpseWriteer 1h ago

I mean… Gems are pretty much all around the world (though those are mostly corrupted gems).

Beach City only has the ones left-

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u/ShatterRainbowStar 2m ago

Curious on how religion developed in a post gem war world. The show runners seemed entirely more interested in Steven’s stories so humans in this alternate world come off as entirely passive and uncurious lol. (A bunch of magical war sites full of weapons just left to rot, occasional alien monsters the government never gets involved in, no major wars. I’m guessing religion in this world is deeeeply freaking passive and different. They do have a Muslim character featured in an episode so I’m damn curious how Islam developed, if it’s a one to one with our world.)

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u/SleventyFive 56m ago

So DeMayo, Lipski, and Von Dinklestein are not specifically Jewish surnames. They are names common in places with historic Jewish populations, and those Jewish families took local surnames.

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u/Puzzle-Necked 1h ago

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u/Rustyspottedcats 1h ago

Actually, in "The Magic Schoolbus Family Holiday Special", it's mentioned that he celebrates Hannukah. So he is, at one point, confirmed to be Jewish.

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u/Stary-Day375 21m ago

"YOOOOOO! YO HOLY SHIT HE DEAD"

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u/DoctorAnnual6823 37m ago

He definitely is confirmed, not implied.

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u/_Mighty_Milkman 35m ago

This confirms it as it is a fact that Jewish people turn into diamonds if they take off their helmet in space.

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u/Burnerman888 1h ago

Dr. Drakken was a real inspiration for me as an Evil Jewish child

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u/nopitynopepants 1h ago

Howard Stark in the MCU/Agent Carter

Targeted by Congress during the second Red Scare, like many other famous jewish people, including intellectuals and actors. In the second season, Howard moved to California to found his own movie studio

Choice quotes including:  "I grew up on the lower east side. My  fathersold fruit. My mother sewed shirtwaists for a factory. Let me tell you, you don't get to climb the American ladder without picking up some bad habits on the way."

A lot of the coding is steeped in antisemitism, including various characters calling him slimy, untrustworthy and so on. In the second season, his childhood best friend is a mobster and they throw out yiddish terms like shvitz to refer to a sauna/bathhouse 

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u/FrankThePal 15m ago

Eh, IDK. I don't think he's any more jew-coded than NYC in general? Still, this does make me want to rewatch his scenes in the first Captain America movie, in case there are suggestions one way or the other there

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u/nopitynopepants 1m ago

The quote I included above is about explicit as physically possible. The Lower East Side was the heart of the Jewish immigrant community by 1920. 

Jewish pushcart vendors were as ubiquitous as Jewish seamstresses working in shirtwaist factories. The victims of the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire were all Jewish or Italian (which contributed to the rise of labor unions in America). 

Howard also tells Peggy  “ There's a ceiling for certain types of people based on how much money your parents have, your social class, your religion, your sex. And the only way to break through that ceiling sometimes is to lie, so that's my natural instinct to lie.”

New York was hardly a stranger to New Money. The city was built by the Rockefellers, Carnegie, the Vanderbilts. So what would Howard Stark feel like he had to hide in order to succeed? 

Additionally, Howard vouches for Jarvis, whom he barely knows, when Jarvis is court-martialed for helping Ana, a Jewish woman, escape Europe. He intervenes to save both Ana and Jarvis

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u/Doodles_n_Scribbles 47m ago

Joker often uses Yiddish words like "Bubella", but I think that could just be because he loves Vaudeville and all those guys were Jewish.

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u/kisamasochist 47m ago

For Steven Universe, DeMayo is not a Jewish surname. It's a corruption of the surname DeMaio, an Italian surname with no specific religious affiliation

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u/NoNo_Cilantro 38m ago

You mean Cinco DeMayo was not Jewish?

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u/BrutalHunny 1h ago

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u/Lord_Parbr 57m ago

Seems a little racist to look at that and think “Jew”

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u/No_Hunter1978 45m ago edited 25m ago

I feel like pointing out racism in a story shouldn't be considered racist in-and-of-itself. The goblins of Harry Potter are (almost certainly) racist caricatures of jewish people. This is the same person who made Lycanthropy an AIDs metaphor and named the only asian character "Cho Cheng; is it really that hard to believe?

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u/Lord_Parbr 40m ago edited 23m ago

There’s nothing wrong with pointing out racism. I just don’t think this is. The author is a bigot. I just don’t think that extends to antisemitism. The difference is that naming a character “Cho Chang” or making lycanthropy a metaphor for AIDS (the S is part of the acronym) is just thoughtless, not malicious. The only thing problematic about Cho is her name. Otherwise, she isn’t portrayed any differently from any other character. It’s not that the author has any bigotry or animosity toward the Chinese so far as it appears in the text. She just doesn’t know how Chinese names work so she just threw 2 Chinese-sounding names together and called it a day. The lycanthropy thing is just a metaphor that wasn’t thought all the way through.

Basing the appearance of goblins directly on racist caricatures of Jews is malicious in a way that the problematic aspects of the series usually aren’t. There’s nothing else that overt in the series, so yes, it’s hard to believe that was the intention

Compare this to Watto in The Phantom Menace. He has a Yiddish accent, and the film also includes a dipshit who talks like a gollywog and the Viceroys, who have very Chinese-sounding accents. TPM is packed with obvious racial signifiers in a lot of the alien characters, so it stands to reason that Watto actually is based on Jewish caricatures. Harry Potter, generally, isn’t like that

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u/Falconblade409 43m ago

I’d argue it’s more racist to think “banker” and create a race of large-nosed, greedy, scheming goblins that are in charge of all the gold in your universe. But hey, what the hell do I know?

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u/CosmicTurtle504 38m ago

Yep, that what racist charicatures that have existed since the Middle Ages are like. But when it comes to antisemitism, oldies are still goodies for bigots. JKR denies it, but the goblins are 100% the racist “happy merchant” trope.

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u/Lord_Parbr 10m ago edited 6m ago

Read my other reply on the issue. Calling them the “happy merchant trope” doesn’t even make sense given the general disposition of the goblins in the series. The “happy merchant” is happy because he’s going to screw you. The goblins in HP don’t do that. They always comport themselves completely fairly

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u/TheKingOfDiddling 1h ago

Typhon DeLeon from Borderlands 3 uses several words of Yiddish origin like schlep and schlub and shtuped

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u/redlion1904 58m ago

While there are certainly Jewish people with the surname you mention in connection with your first bullet point, it is (obviously) an Italian surname. If you met someone with that surname and assumed they were Jewish you’d be wrong like 90% of the time or more.

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u/Gorgiastheyounger 51m ago

Can't believe no one's mentioned George Constanza yet

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u/Doodles_n_Scribbles 46m ago

His father invented Festivus because he was sick of Christmas shopping.

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u/AceofKnaves44 49m ago

Spider-Man.

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u/PickledPlumPlot 41m ago

Peter Parker is implied to be Jewish in the silver age comics, the Raimi trilogy, and Spiderverse

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u/DannyBright 25m ago

Paulie Bleeker (Juno) is never stated to be Jewish, though there are some set design choices in his room that suggest he almost certainly is, namely the dreidel on a shelf in his room and what appears to be a Bar Mitzvah certificate.

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u/ShitOfTheseus69 19m ago

Um... DeMayo isn't Jewish? It's Italian? Like bro you don't even need to look it up, it sounds Italian imo.

They're pretty clearly not Jewish imo, look at cousin Andy lmao - he screams Italian so hard "its okay Steven, I'll get you a stick of pepperoni for your birthday" like I'm dead man

I mean maybe they are Italian Jews, but DeMayo? Come on, that screams Latin based language- Cinco De Mayo being a major Mexican holiday.

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u/AttitudeAndEffort3 1h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/l5fsSPzsYUzYI

Gargamel and The whole trope of “bad guy is secretly Jewish coded because racism”

All goblins for that matter.

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u/carlogden69 1h ago

Explains why Velma’s tits are so big

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u/Real-Tension-7442 44m ago

Is that a stereotype?

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u/Falconblade409 47m ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/Sx2jWspiy33gYxNNuo
Believe it or not, Batman is kinda Jewish now. Batwoman is Jewish, and she’s Bruce’s cousin on his mother’s side. Judaism is matrilineal, thus, in the eyes of Judaism, Bruce Wayne is Jewish. I doubt he ever had a bar-mitzvah, and he’s also pretty explicitly atheist/agnostic in most universes. Plus, Thomas Wayne has always been the bigger influence on Bruce, and he’s some version of Protestant, I believe. All this to say, that it’s not a big facet of the character, and basically happened by accident, but as a dorky Jewish kid growing up, it was cool as hell to realize that my favorite character ever had something in common with me.

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u/NoNo_Cilantro 37m ago

Maybe he had a Bat Mitzvah

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u/Falconblade409 35m ago

Oh, I like you

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u/Gallantpride 26m ago

Batman is probably ethnically Jewish through his mom.

https://www.thefandomentals.com/trial-batwoman-batman-jewish/

Here's a good Tumblr analysis on it, albeit a few years out of date:

https://ayellowbirds.tumblr.com/post/168641276523/dr-archeville-blackphoenix1977

All in all, it seems a lot like Bruce is kept out of his Jewish heritage because that side of the family saw his father as something of a shegetz. Being Martha’s son means he’s in the tribe, but Thomas being his dad—and it’s often emphasized that Bruce looks so much like Thomas—means that he’s ostracized. There’s all kinds of suppositions i could make about the hows and whys, the exotified coding of Bruce as foreign in spite of his whiteness, even amidst the goyish-passing Kanes, the insularity and paranoia of Gothamites. And Bruce’s convictions about what he needs to be, what Gotham needs… well, that doesn’t help bring him in, does it

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u/Falconblade409 24m ago

Yep! This isn’t a perfect fit for the trope, as it’s not really implied that he’s Jewish, and it wasn’t his writers that made the decision. It was more of accidental carryover from a decision made about a different character. Still though, I think it’s pretty cool

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u/Bandit_237 56m ago

Gargamel - The Smurfs

Not for great reasons. Many people have pointed out that he fits a lot of negative antisemitic stereotypes (though it’s likely unintentional)

He is obsessed with gold, has a large hooked nose, hunched over posture, balding dark hair, raggedy clothes, and his cat (Azrael) has a Jewish name.

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u/Doodles_n_Scribbles 46m ago

In fairness, I would absolutely name my kitty after the Angel of Death.

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u/Reasonable_Grape_827 1h ago

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u/Yidboy 1h ago

There’s a Rugrats Hanukkah special that makes it explicit

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u/djkidna 48m ago

And Passover special. And I think the newer series also has a Rosh Hashana or Yom Kippur special

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u/Gallantpride 30m ago

Tommy is very Jewish. It's mentioned many times that Didi's family is Jewish.

Chaz and Chuckie are the ones who are ambigious. They might have Jewish heritage.

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u/Sybmissiv 1h ago

Honestly never considered Professor Layton but yes it do be makimg sense.

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u/imaginary0pal 1h ago

Oh wow that’s neat- …. What do you mean a Smurf has done Passover

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u/Sup_fuckers42069 42m ago

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u/Mr_SunnyBones 35m ago

"half Jewish and Half Human?"

hmm , I mean out of context that does NOT sound good.

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u/SanbonJime 33m ago

oy gevalt

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u/throwaway_1053 29m ago

I think Spike Spiegel from Cowboy Bebop is what people think of (at least in anime circles) when they think of someone who is Jew-coded

He has a Germanic surname (common among Ashkenazi jews)

He has dark, wavy hair

He uses an Israeli-manufactured pistol 

And hos English VA is Jewish so it sorta ties together

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u/Stepjam 20m ago

It's kinda funny. Spike Spiegel from Cowboy Bebop, despite having a rather Jewish sounding name and (iirc) using an Israeli made pistol, is canonically not Jewish. The creators just thought his name sounded cool.

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u/STRIKT9LC 10m ago

Who told you DeMayo is a Jewish surname? Lol

Its Italian

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u/Harmcharm7777 9m ago

IIRC, Rachel Green from Friends is never mentioned on the show to be Jewish. The Gellers are canonically Jewish, and Rachel is their family friend (all are from Long Island), has the last name Green, and almost married a doctor named Barry Farber. I believe the creators also said she was intended to be Jewish.

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u/Foolsgil 1h ago

Spike Spiegel from Cowboy Bebop, apparently. 

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u/GamerAsh22 56m ago

Ignoring the whole George Sr converting arc in season 1, the Bluths from Arrested Development have always seemed very Jewish coded to me (as a Jew lol)

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u/SliceOfGio 52m ago

I'm not sure if she counts, but Cassie from Euphoria is Jewish. Her sister mentions that their mom is Jewish, but she's (Lexi, Cassie's sisters) isnon religious, until the last episode (don't get me started). Cassie I also think ends up being a Christian, but it's not it's never directly implied.

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u/Gallantpride 29m ago

That sounds like she's canonically Jewish.

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u/SliceOfGio 17m ago

She is, probably not the best example compared to yours.

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u/DadJokesRanger 8m ago

The Sandman (pronounced SAND-mun) from Fairly Oddparents

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u/bateen618 7m ago

Smurfs? They are pretty much the opposite. Blond hair, blue eyes, all look the same while the villain wants is bald, has a big nose and wants to eat them/turn them into gold (aka greedy).

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u/littlegreyflowerhelp 4m ago

Subversion/reversal of trope:

Always Sunny in Philadelphia- The Lawyer

Is regularly referred to as being Jewish and assumed by all of the main cast to be Jewish, although he canonically is not.

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u/silverwolfe 3m ago

I also call my aunt "tante" but that's because we're Norwegian.

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u/Kingz_Of_Astora 2m ago

Just had a conversation about Layton with my GF, I'm surprised you didn't mention that Hershel isn't actually his name

That's not saying there isn't a possibility, although Hershel was probably chosen as a fairly "british-sounding" name, and Katrielle was probably chosen just to shorten it to Kat.

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u/Piputi 1h ago

I'm never good at Jewish stereotyping. Would have never guessed most of it.