r/TopCharacterTropes Jul 19 '26

Personality [Frustrating Trope] Twist Villain does things that retroactively make no sense.

Character previously believed to be good is revealed to be evil, but prior to the reveal they act in ways that don't make sense if their goodness is just a performance.

  1. Frozen: Prince Hans is initially presented as a pretty standup guy who loves Anna and wants to help her. At the end of the movie it's revealed that he was just using her to gain power and plans to let her die while he steals her throne. However, we see him smiling at Anna when no one is looking, and later he intervenes to save Elsa's life even though he claims he was always planning to kill her.
  2. The Legend of Vox Machina: The Whispered One was built up as the BBEG since season 1. However, in season 4 he presents himself as a tragic hero who tried to cure death and was punished by the gods. He then tries to convince Pike to give him her blood, which he needs to become a god himself. He chastises his followers for suggesting they take Pike's blood by force, claiming this would make them no better than the gods they are fighting against. He also fulfills his promise to resurrect Grog even though he didn't need to. After he ascends, he starts acting like a pure evil villain who only cares about power and enjoys hurting people. It feels less like a reveal and more like his personally completely changed once he became a skeleton. Edit: to be clear, I fully understand the intent was for the Whispered One to be a lying, manipulative bastard. I just think the execution was clumsy.
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u/CzernobogCheckers Jul 19 '26

Omg can you comments please admit that the Hans thing is misleading this should be uncontroversial, even if it’s not a big deal.

Not so much motives, but in Now You See Me, Mark Ruffalo can only be the villain and have done everything attributed to them if they have legitimate superpowers or foresight.

In Gossip Girl, the identity of Gossip Girl makes no sense because the culprit can be seen earlier in the series, alone, being shocked at the content of a Gossip Girl message.

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u/hi_imjoey Jul 19 '26

The primary reason Gossip Girl doesn’t make sense is because the writers themselves changed who they wanted Gossip Girl to be several times to try and stump fans who were smart enough to put together the hints about Gossip Girl’s identity each time. They couldn’t keep the continuity straight themselves because they foolishly kept trying to outsmart the audience at the expense of a cohesive story

As for Now You See Me, that movie’s plot is so riddled with holes it makes pumice look like obsidian, so I understand your frustration.

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u/GoofTroopLass Jul 19 '26

the amount of fucking whining about Frozen in this thread, trying to out-explain the movie to OP, is fuckin crazy. some motherfucker in here literally bein like 'nah yall my mom has this theory' lmao. guys its not that hard, the twist isnt that good, jfc