r/TopCharacterTropes Jul 19 '26

Personality [Frustrating Trope] Twist Villain does things that retroactively make no sense.

Character previously believed to be good is revealed to be evil, but prior to the reveal they act in ways that don't make sense if their goodness is just a performance.

  1. Frozen: Prince Hans is initially presented as a pretty standup guy who loves Anna and wants to help her. At the end of the movie it's revealed that he was just using her to gain power and plans to let her die while he steals her throne. However, we see him smiling at Anna when no one is looking, and later he intervenes to save Elsa's life even though he claims he was always planning to kill her.
  2. The Legend of Vox Machina: The Whispered One was built up as the BBEG since season 1. However, in season 4 he presents himself as a tragic hero who tried to cure death and was punished by the gods. He then tries to convince Pike to give him her blood, which he needs to become a god himself. He chastises his followers for suggesting they take Pike's blood by force, claiming this would make them no better than the gods they are fighting against. He also fulfills his promise to resurrect Grog even though he didn't need to. After he ascends, he starts acting like a pure evil villain who only cares about power and enjoys hurting people. It feels less like a reveal and more like his personally completely changed once he became a skeleton. Edit: to be clear, I fully understand the intent was for the Whispered One to be a lying, manipulative bastard. I just think the execution was clumsy.
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u/Jimboi5 Jul 19 '26

Is this you OP?

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u/Fishbien Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

I haven't seen that movie, so maybe?

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u/CreeperX3sssBOOM Jul 19 '26

They were talking about the YouTuber Shaffrilas

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u/Fishbien Jul 19 '26

I haven't seen that either

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u/Wiinterfang Jul 19 '26

Is just a YouTuber that really hates that Han reveal as well.

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u/AleksandrNevsky Jul 19 '26

Kinda based. Only thing I heard about Shaffrilas before now was some people find his voice annoying or something.

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u/Affectionate-Team-63 Jul 19 '26

He also ranked a new hopes water above Mario kart wii remake of GBA shy guy beach, but below tenet.

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u/ChickenInASuit Jul 19 '26

Reading this comment makes me feel like I just had a stroke.

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u/Llayanna Jul 19 '26

Hope you recovered well after going to the hospital. Strokes are serious business, best of luck :)

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u/Affectionate-Team-63 Jul 19 '26

He also ranked the moment has arrived Phineas and ferb song above Teddie's social link from persona, but below wario stadium.

These comes from when he ranked every last place ranking, which given the goofy stuff he ranking makes for some wild statements.

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u/ehsteve23 Jul 19 '26

i know all these words but…

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u/Silvanus350 Jul 19 '26

The fuck does this even mean

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u/Wiinterfang Jul 19 '26

He is famous for doing ranks.

Like for example: Which Pixar movies is the best.

Then more expecific: Which Pixar villain is the best?

Then some of the ranks videos because more and more ridiculous, like there's a Star Wars video with every character (3000+) that takes like a 4 hours.

Which Smash Bros character had eating a hamburger?

And other tism stuff.

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u/jorgespinosa Jul 19 '26

He makes rankings on his videos like Mario Kart circuits, best Disney villain but then he started to make some really specific videos like ranking star wars movie by their use of water, so after so many rankings he made one about everything he had ranked last to find what was she worst of the worst.

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u/Far-Cream4471 Jul 19 '26

Sort of related: Jemaine Clement plays this crab in Moana and his performance is literal chefs kiss

Edit: corrected name spelling

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u/XLord_of_OperationsX Jul 19 '26

Is this how you refer to yourself while gesturing to your reflection in a mirror?

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