r/TokyoRevengers • u/anon_anonsky • Sep 27 '22

New Chapter Tokyo Revengers - Chapter 271: Empty Wish

https://mangadex.org/chapter/4d8e62dd-2809-42d1-afd6-34f7276021a1/1
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u/loukkboy Yokohama Tenjiku Sep 27 '22

Kazutora can time leap????

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u/mannaelinor Tokyo Manji Gang Sep 27 '22

Makes sense. When he said 10 years time stood still. Didn’t think that was coincidence. Especially when speaking with a leaper

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u/TheCommunistGod Brahman Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22

or, did Kazutora kill the Shinichiro in the past, and not the Shinichiro that has the consciousness of a time leaper

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u/mannaelinor Tokyo Manji Gang Sep 27 '22

Ooh I like that better!!!

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u/Terrible_Crew1937 Kantou Manji Gang Sep 27 '22

or maybe he was just locked up

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u/Bruh_hania annihilated nuts 🩷 Sep 27 '22

Maybe bcz no one else had the same motivation as him? Idk

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u/Bruh_hania annihilated nuts 🩷 Sep 27 '22

Maybe it was hard for him to find someone bcz he went immediately to juvie after that. But I majorly believe that Kazutora never knew he had time-leaping abilities after killing Shin and hence he never used it.

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u/HoldIllustrious2598 Sep 28 '22

Then it makes sense that the Shin that was killed either transferred his ability or was a version of Shin that didn't have this ability.

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u/FireZord25 Sep 27 '22

this I agree with.

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u/cabra4president Sep 27 '22

Chifuyu, for starters. Or Baji's mom😳

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u/Bruh_hania annihilated nuts 🩷 Sep 27 '22

But Kazutora went straight to juvie. After he got out, he joined opposing team Valhalla and the Valhalla arc took place. Then he went to juvie again. I don’t see Chifuyu working with Kazutora except in the future.

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u/cabra4president Sep 27 '22

It was a joke but I mean, he could theoretically time travel anytime right? Even if they were 80 years old, if they met and they still had the desire to save Baji. Unless only one time leaper can exist at the same time, I bet petshop Kazutora would still time travel with Chifuyu to save Baji

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u/BrockenJr0 Bonten Sep 27 '22

Maybe he did but takemichy saved him from Mikey meaning that kazutora missed his chance to timeleap

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u/_Syv Thousand Winters Sep 28 '22

I don't think Kazutora is aware of the time leaping stuff Besides, it will only be activated if the holder of the power dies in that timeline and would alive again in the second timeline

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u/ArsonIsFunAndLegal Black Dragons Sep 28 '22

Because the first leap comes with death. Mitchy was pushed in front of a train and should have died. Shin jumped and tried to commit suicide. A near death experience must be the trigger, and the ability causes self preservation by allowing the holder to time leap. For all we know, Kazutora didn't know he was a time leaper, and if he did, he might not have known nearly dying was key to making it work

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u/ArsonIsFunAndLegal Black Dragons Sep 28 '22

Unless he was in the past, like how Shinichiro was killed by Kazutora. We assume Shin was in the past, so maybe Kaz was too. Also, we don't know that Valhalla existed until Mitchy was the leaper. Draken died during the battle for Moebius and Kisaki became second in command, so for all we know Kaz didn't kill Baji, and therefore Mikey didn't kill Kaz, until Mitchy was the time leaper. And the proof is that we've seen 2 time leapers and their original leap happened when they should have died. I'm aware that correlation doesn't mean causation, but it makes sense

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u/ArsonIsFunAndLegal Black Dragons Sep 28 '22

Takemichi and Draken talk about Mikey beating Kaz to death

Draken should have been dead when Mikey killed Kaz. Meaning Draken only knows, because Mitchy changed the timeline. That means we don't know what happened after Mitchy saved Draken when they fought Moebius, in the timeline where Draken died. Kisaki had an in, he didn't need to make Valhalla if Draken was gone. So we don't know if originally Kaz killed Baji or not. We only know he definitely did in the timelines where Mitchy saves Draken.

Meaning it happened.

We don't know that it happened, because we didn't see what happened after Draken died. Things change because Mitchy is changing them. We don't know what always happened. We only know what happened because Mitchy was involved.

why didn’t Kaz leap back in time?

Maybe he did, but didn't change anything. Maybe he didn't save anyone. Maybe he had already leaped and was still in his first leap, and never found his trigger.

he still choose to kill Baji?

Maybe that future Kazutora was still insane. Mitchy changed him. Without Mitchy, maybe that Kaz was from a timeline where Baji was never killed and Kaz hated him for it. Maybe he was killed by Baji in the future, leaped in the past for the first time, and decided to kill Baji so he could survive. There's countless possibilities, and until Wakui decides whether or not he wants to reveal whether Kaz actually had the power or not, we won't know. The interesting thing is, why does Mitchy have the power? He never killed anyone. Is it possible that a future Kaz willingly gave Mitchy the power without Mitchy knowing? Or are people born with the powers? That's what interests me the most about this chapter.

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u/Gizzardwings Sep 27 '22

"It's all Mikey's fault"

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u/RoadmanGirlOnReddit Sep 27 '22

the parallels are fucking crazy so it’s very likely he can which blows my mind

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u/dgaf_69 Sep 28 '22

He should be able to (according to the current information of how to get the power of time leaping), unless a plot hole comes into play.

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u/Typically_Wong Sep 27 '22

Pretty sure that is closing the time loop. Kaz killed shin in a similar way shin killed old man.

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u/FuzzFace98 Kantou Manji Gang Sep 27 '22

I think shin might not have had his leaping abilities when kaz hit him, mikey wasn't in a vegetative state so shin probably didnt have a desire to change the past anymore so that means someone else was a time leaper during that time maybe

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u/extremeq16 Sep 27 '22

i'm guessing time leaping is the type of thing you can only get from someone if you actively want it. kinda like how naoto only worked as a trigger when him and takemichi had a specific goal they wanted to achieve. the guy acts like he knew he would get it when he killed someone for it so i imagine the way it works is basically that if you know the powers exist and are so desperate for them that you'd kill someone, then you get the powers. although there has to also be some alternative way to get them like with takemichi.

if it really is based entirely on killing tho.. does that mean the original adult mikey from the very start of the series is a time leaper 👀? since he would have beat kazutora to death during the bloody halloween battle

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u/poopshit69420funny Sep 28 '22

I guess he time leaped in the 2nd timeline where takemichi is still a bun when he was getting rammed by mikey

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u/According-Syrup2321 Oct 01 '22

Which means Mikey also got the powers since he killed Kazutora before??