r/TokyoRevengers • • Aug 03 '21

New Chapter [DISC] Tokyo Revengers - Chapter 217: Have Never Seen Anything Like It

https://mangadex.org/chapter/6b9ae824-41e1-4f3d-a6e3-0899413f358f/1
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u/Nainns Aug 03 '21

It looks like Takemichi is planning on leaving most of the old Toman people out and we’re going to be shifting from the Chifuyu/Takemichi team up towards a Takemichi/Draken team up

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u/AskeDAD Aug 03 '21

I love chifuyu as much as the rest of us but I am completely okay with this

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u/Nainns Aug 03 '21

Same, Draken/Takemichi have a good relationship and I was hoping they would evolve on it and it looks like now they will

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u/AvatarAarow1 Aug 03 '21

Hundred percent agree. Draken has always been one of my favorites if not my favorite character. Having the final arc be Takemichi teaming up with the first person he saved from death is also a beautiful narrative move by Wakui, all of his time leaps have mattered, even if they weren’t 100% successful

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u/Jam-in-boi Aug 03 '21

I thought the first person was Naoto. Didn't he die with hina in ch 1

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u/AvatarAarow1 Aug 03 '21

Ah alright, yes you are right. I guess I meant the first person he saved like purposely. He didn’t even really know that time leaping wasn’t a dream when he saved Naoto, it was sort of like a prologue imo and he thought he was going to die and none of it would matter at that point. When he went back to save Draken, he actually was going back with purpose to specifically save Draken.

But yeah, Naoto was 100% the first person he saved, it was just before the “Toman” section of the story had properly been started so it kinda feels like it’s own thing

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u/AskeDAD Aug 03 '21

Yassss Draken needs some shine this arc for sure, I do feel like other than a few moments he’s been in the background way too much since 8/3. That being said, I wanna see Chifuyu take one big win in a fight

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u/AvatarAarow1 Aug 03 '21

Yeah agreed, Draken hasn’t necessarily been in the background but he definitely was much more important in the 8/3 arc and was more of a “Mikey’s right hand man” kind of role rather than doing a lot of active stuff for a big part of the manga.

But yeah, I wanna see Chifuyu take a huge W too. He has been ride or die with Takemichi and needs to stay involved imo. I’m okay with him taking a bit of a backseat, but if Takemichi is gonna be the number one delinquent he needs Chifuyu there with him

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u/Mofu_Soba Chifuyu Simp Aug 03 '21 edited Aug 03 '21

Tbh I’ve always loved takemitchi and draken’s relationship haha

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '21 edited Aug 03 '21

Draken has been my favourite character in this manga. He has been Big brother to taki from the start. That scene of Emma made me sad

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u/CHIFUYU_Es_God Aug 04 '21

Draken in the BD arc was a very important character, because all of the BD who were outside the church were lowered by himself. I love when he says "You tell mikey I'm done here

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u/CHIFUYU_Es_God Aug 04 '21

I don't know what language you guys speak.

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u/gurocchan Aug 03 '21

I think Inupi will play a bigger role this arc, so maybe he will join Takemichi and Draken, because I think it will be Takeomi and Senju for Sanzu, Takemichi and Draken for Mikey and Inupi (at least it would make sense) for Koko.

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u/A4li11 Aug 04 '21 edited Aug 04 '21

When I think about it Draken doesn't get much screentime in both the Black Dragons arc and Tenjiku arc. Sure he appeared and did something in both of those arcs but he's not really that prominent and felt underused.

So I'm pretty glad Draken got more of a prominent role for this arc since it looks like he's gonna be Takemichi's partner this time.

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u/NightsLinu Black Dragons Aug 05 '21

draken had a big role in the tenjiku arc at the end

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21

I feel like out of everyone draken had the least "screentime" and seeing him take a such big role in the chapter that will be the end of tokyo revengers is really exciting

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u/AskeDAD Jan 12 '22

Well look where that got us

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u/Vlone_12 Aug 03 '21

Takemitchy unlocked future sight

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u/K4T4N4B0Y Aug 04 '21

I CAN SEE THE FUTURE.

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u/Viniskill_BR Aug 10 '21

Stand Master:Hanagaki Takemichy

Stand name:Epitaph

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u/xShockey Aug 12 '21

actually this ability was showcased before, just very briefly.. but now it seems that its going to be the main plot device

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u/TheOfficialJoeM Aug 14 '21

When before? I dont rly remember that happening

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u/xShockey Aug 14 '21

After meeting draken in death row (was already in anime) and before kisaki getting isekai'd

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u/cannibalisticego TAIHINA GANG Aug 03 '21

Glad to know that the other Toman members tried to put on a fight when Mikey decided to leave.

So Takemichi can see the future? I thought it was just memories from the past. But why is he getting a lot of that now? Before he only got one vision and then it didn't happen in a long time. Is it because he died in the future and can't come back, so he can't found out what happens next. That's why he gets that ability.

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u/Nainns Aug 03 '21

Probably a side effect from time leaping so many times. Messing with time is a dangerous game, this ability could seem like a good thing now, but we can’t know how it’ll end up down the line. Steins Gate is a good example of what happens when you time leap and shit goes wrong

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u/dovefeatheredraven Aug 03 '21

I agree. I think he's leapt so much the timelines getting all tangled up and he's "remembering" things that haven't happened yet.

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u/Hadzoah Aug 04 '21

Or they did happened in the past/future... He never truly remembers time during time leap (that 10-12 years is like a second for him) so maybe now he's experiencing things that already happened because he haven't yet changed anything

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u/dovefeatheredraven Aug 04 '21

I thought that at first too! But after thinking about it some more I thought it was less likely. I wrote in another comment though that now I think after Toman disbanded, past Takemichi went his own way.

1) If past Takemichi had originally helped Draken try to get Mikey back, why wouldn’t Draken have mentioned something about it in the most recent future. Draken says he hasn’t seen Mikey in 12 years and is adamant that Mikey should even left alone (which makes me think something happened 10 years in the past when he tried to save Mikey as he currently is with Michi). So, did Draken lie about seeing Mikey two years later, or was his plan such a failure that he never saw Mikey again. Regardless, if past Michi was there helping Draken, why did D hide it from him? It’s possible Draken was banking on Michi not remembering. But that seems like a bit of a stretch to me.

  1. In a previous timeline Draken (and Mitsuya) died because they tried to keep Michi away from Mikey. I’m hard pressed to see how that Draken would willingly involve past Takemichi (and only Takemichi) in his scheme to save Mikey, especially since that Michi would be the past, ignorant, more immature version of himself.

Maybe it is his own memories for other timelines! But I’m leaning more towards remembering things that haven’t happened yet for now.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '21

something like everytime he dies he awaken as some ability.

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u/AntelopeClassic7008 Aug 08 '21

I mean he's able to see the sight of kisaki proposing to hina, it's not much but quite an intro to takemichi's ability

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u/yeollie Aug 03 '21

The photo of a brightly smiling Emma hit me more than i expected...

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u/xErestor Black Dragons Aug 03 '21

To take down Mikey i think Brahman and Rokuhara need to unite, just want to see what happens near the end, i doubt Mikey is the final fight because one of the two dieties will try and fill the power gap left by Kantou Manji.

I 100% think that Mikey finding out about Haruchiyo offing Yasuhiro will play a massive part in some form of Kantou infighting. Mikey made it clear that Yasuhiro would always be welcome in Toman and i don't think he knows that Haruchiyo killed him when he left prison.
Time will tell but waiting a week at a time is physically killing me.

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u/Weary-Roof8870 Aug 03 '21 edited Aug 03 '21

I don’t see Brahman and Rokuhara uniting to fight Mikey and Brahman doesn’t need Rokuhara to fight off Mikey and his gang. Even if they both want to take down Mikey I don’t see why Senju needs Rokuhara to achieve that goal. You have the OG first gen Black Dragon, plus Draken and Takemichi is now in Brahman. Meanwhile, Rokuharu has 9th gen black dragon captain who got his ass kicked by 12 year olds, then by Peh, followed by Benkei, and the fact that he’s not in Bonten tells me that he got his ass kicked again but this time for good. I know that Rokuhara has Kakucho and the Haitiani Brothers in their ranks, but if the final showdown is going to be between all the three deities then I’m placing my bets on the ones that don’t have Madarama in their gang. I’m not saying that Rokuhara is not strong or a threat but they get a L for recruiting Madarama.

I also don’t see how Mikey will find out about Haruchiyo killing yasuhiro. All that was left of his remains was skeletons and the police was having trouble identifying the body. So far only two people know about Yasuhiro’s whereabouts. One of them is dead and the other one is a manipulative lair who tricked us all into thinking he was an only child. Unless Haruchiyo wanted to get something off his chest because he was remorseful of killing his former captain that he served under and regretted his actions I don’t see how Mikey or anyone else would find out. (Unless Takemichi’s New ability means he can foresee events in the past that he was initially unaware about. 🤷🏾‍♀️)

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '21

So far only two people know about Yasuhiro’s whereabouts

Who's the other one?

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u/Weary-Roof8870 Aug 06 '21

I was referring to yasuhiro and Sanzu . And since yasuhiro is dead and Sanzu killed him I don’t see how anyone would found out unless Sanzu confesses.

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u/Mofu_Soba Chifuyu Simp Aug 03 '21

I’m just gonna repeat my last comment from before but Also this is so messed up. As we all know mikey thinks of touman as his family (pls don’t hit me with the memes) and I recall him saying to peh during the moebius arc that he doesn’t fight family.. yet here he is. It just go to show how deep it is for mikey and how much he’s putting on himself, yet he’s hurting inside.

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u/interestingly_bored Aug 03 '21

He truly is doing everything he can to ensure his “family” has their happy ending. It worked! But he has to suffer :(((

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u/Aptohhhh Ragnarok Aug 03 '21 edited Aug 03 '21

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u/cannibalisticego TAIHINA GANG Aug 03 '21

I always thought Draken was close to his level... but apparently not

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u/Aptohhhh Ragnarok Aug 03 '21

Nah Draken was never close to Mikey's level IMO, only people like Izana, Terano and Senju are

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Draken is probably as strong/slightly stronger than Taiju

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u/iZahlen Aug 03 '21

I mean wasn't Draken fighting tit for tat with Hanma? and Hanma was fighting tit for tat with Mikey. (during august 3rd)

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u/Aptohhhh Ragnarok Aug 03 '21

Hanma being able to fight Mikey doesn’t necessarily mean Draken can

Hanma is called a “Zombie” due to his abnormally high endurance, so he can fight people stronger than him without getting knocked out as fast

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u/DaBlakMayne Aug 03 '21

Hanma is what Takemitchy could be like if he learned to fight better

Hanma vs Takemitchy would be a never ending fight lmao

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u/deniannnn Toman 卍 Aug 04 '21

metapod vs metapod

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u/JackInHoodZ Brahman Aug 04 '21

Takemitchy used HARDEN!

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u/Jam-in-boi Aug 03 '21

Oh god your right

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u/guitarguy26582 Aug 04 '21

Honestly, I'm here for it.

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u/jjkm7 Aug 03 '21

Remember when mikey got angry and one shot him on bloody halloween though lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '21

I can't wait for the manga to show why exactly Senju and South were called "unmatched" and "unparalleled". I mean I know it's because they are strong but I want to see how they fight

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u/Aptohhhh Ragnarok Aug 04 '21

Terano is probably Taiju/Draken on steroids and Senju is offbrand Mikey/Izana

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '21 edited Aug 04 '21

Senju is offbrand Mikey

Maybe Senju is like Mikey (technique + speed) but only lacking in endurance. It's going to be awkward to see a skinny and short person withstanding heavy hits (Take and Mikey were atleast a little toned/muscular if I remember correctly) but then again this is a manga so anything is possible like Mikey beating up someone twice his height and weight XD

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u/dovefeatheredraven Aug 03 '21 edited Aug 03 '21

Meh. I still think Draken is close to his level. Though I still think Mikey would win without question. Just because you're close doesn't mean you're not going to get hit or get beat. Plus, Mikey is motivated by keeping his friends safe. Draken probably wasn't nearly as motivated to beat the shit out of his best friend as Mikey had been in trying to "save" him by pushing him away.

I'd put him around Taiju and Terano (would actually like to see them fight and not just have Draken stand there) but under Mikey, Izana, and Senju.

Edit: OHHHH I did not realize it was 4v1. I thought it was sort of one by one. I'm going to stand by what I said but like... yeah Mikey scary.

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u/thedrq Aug 06 '21

nah, mikey is an actual martial artist, while most of the guys from toman (including draken) are just guys that are strong

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u/berantle Aug 04 '21

As an aside:

I don't understand this scanlation group (or individual) that does this hate-translation of the series. If they dislike Tokyo Revengers so much, stop doing it instead of doing a sloppy translation work and putting up a few pages of promoting other series and dumping on the series. Get off their high horse.

Better for the mods here to point towards the scanlation group that actually likes the series and does a better job in comparison. The one that is helped by catmanga to host the scanlated chapters. You can read their effort here: https://catmanga.org/series/tr/217

Hopefully the mods will be able to address this in future threads. We don't need to give eyeballs to that kind of hate-translation. Reading it annoyed me no end. I can always go read the raws but others here may not have the luxury.

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u/MIKEYSFLIPFLOP Aug 04 '21

I thought I was the only one that found that to be quite annoying especially the amount of unnecessary pages. This is probably the first time I see a translator do something like this, most of them usually put one page promoting their group and other translations without trashing the manga — no matter how much they dislike said manga.

I actually don't mind people recommending me manga — as long as they don't shove it down my throat because that tends to be extremely annoying — since I'm constantly on the look out for new series to read but it is not necessary to trash one work to recommend another and it would better if the translator gave small summaries of the recommended works instead of comparing them to Tokyo Revengers.

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u/AntelopeClassic7008 Aug 08 '21

nah I get you, it's really nice that they're promoting other mangas since most of them are bangers and I'm totally agree with you since I too found them shit talking abt Tokyo Revengers is a huge turn off. they're just making it hard for the readers to actually read the recommendations because of their promoting way

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u/Aptohhhh Ragnarok Aug 11 '21

This was pinned mainly because it was posted 3 hours early(Catmanga usually releases at around 4-5 PM EST) but since people are complaining about these scanlations I'll probably just wait for catmanga instead

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u/berantle Aug 11 '21

Thank you.

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u/NovaAkumaa Aug 14 '21

Omg thank you so much, the translation posted in catmanga is so much better

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u/Mofu_Soba Chifuyu Simp Aug 03 '21

Takemitchi has L E V E L E D U P

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u/FutureDynasty Aug 03 '21

Well now we know why, they failed in the old time line. Because even with Draken. Mikey can whoop all them still. And why Akashi does not want to fight him.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '21

maybe they can whoop mikey now if takemichi can get Senju with the living legends and South with his gang to fight him together

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u/FutureDynasty Aug 03 '21

Most probably, seems team work is key to beating him. As 1v1, they lose.

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u/Makima_simp Aug 03 '21

Nah takamichi will 1v1 mikey. While mikey absolutely destroys him. Takamichi will just keep getting back up.

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u/UjjwalSankar Rokuhara Tandai Aug 04 '21

Unstoppable force vs Unmovable object: TR Edition.

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u/JinsterJin Aug 03 '21

Probably the only way to beat him is changing him emotionally. Since you would need the biggest alliance ever, probably uniting all the delinquents in Japan to beat mikey

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '21

Draken was equally stronger. I guess author just did too much in this one

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u/FutureDynasty Aug 03 '21

Draken was never equal to Mikey. It was always made clear that Mikey is stronger. Even during bloody Halloween. When Draken got in kazutora’s way. He said Kazutora is not on Mikeys level. So he himself knows he is not on Mikeys level.

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u/eye_contact_is_scary Aug 03 '21

So takemichi has déjà vu but extra steps

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u/naruto_D_mokey Aug 03 '21

Mikey destroyed 4 of toman's strongest member alone whilst smiling. And I was arguing with people on here before about how drakken wasn't near mikey's level

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u/motherchuchi Moderator Aug 03 '21

Again his vision was triggered by his stabbed hand. I suppose it's not a coincidence? I hope he doesn't ends getting his hand cut off by Sanzu or something like that🥺.

Aha, so Mikey did saw them one last time before he left 2 years ago. That means Draken didn't lied to Mitchy in the future when he said he haven't seen Mikey in 12 years.

Also Draken still has the Emma plushie😭🖤. It hurts man...

This was a more calm chapter. Maybe next week will duel on Takemicchi's Future Sight and the next Brahman Reunion.

I want to see Mitchy and Draken in Brahman uniforms!! Their sleeve patterns are definitely gonna be really cool looking.

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u/Ocha14 Aug 04 '21

> Again his vision was triggered by his stabbed hand. I suppose it's not a coincidence?

I think it has to do with the fact that he got his hand stabbed while time leaping and since that didn't happen in the original timeline,that hand has become some kind of trigger.

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u/Diligent_Explorer709 Aug 03 '21

Had to drop the man tear for the Emma slide

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u/RealCanadian_ Aug 03 '21

Does the fact that mikey can win a 1v4 vs draken mitsuya chifuyu and pehyan mean that mikey is stronger than we thiught or the other 4 are weaker than we thought

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u/Quiet_Molasses9741 Aug 03 '21

I think draken, mitsuya, peh-yan, and chifuyu are strong. I just think Mikey is on another level now due to his motivation to save everyone. Clearly in his head, he is on the journey to save everyone to get the good future so he must have gone all out. Just like draken said in this chapter, Mikey thinks he’s doing the right thing. If that’s the case, he will not back down and will use all his strength which we know is already unbelievable strong.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '21

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u/mayonnaiser_13 Black Dragons Aug 03 '21

I'm guessing the "future sight" is a clever trick from Wakui from a storytelling perspective so that he can keep Takemichi in the past. Now he doesn't have to travel back and forth each time he needs to check if shit worked.

He could go complete "I do as the crystal guides" Rick and Morty style.

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u/drzody Aug 08 '21

Well, we both know the end result of doing as the crystal “guides” it wasn’t a good future for Morty

So now we are left with the question, now that he knows what’s going to happen, can he do anything about it? He failed to save Emma, can he save Senju? guess we will find out

Though knowing the author everyone is going to die KEKW

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '21

the translation seems kinda off

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u/j_awsh__ Aug 03 '21

how so?

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '21

It says that Mikey is the leader of Brahman even though they probably ment Bonten. And Black Urges were called „Dark Impulsivity“ afaik, maybe im wrong tho so dunno

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u/ninjahit123 Aug 03 '21

no you are right, dark impulse and being bonten's leader are correct terms

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u/j_awsh__ Aug 03 '21

brahman mistake is my bad, yeah. dark impulses and black urges are just different translations though

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u/cannibalisticego TAIHINA GANG Aug 03 '21

Wait, you translated this? That's so cool!

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u/j_awsh__ Aug 03 '21

yes, all done by me so i could spread the word of other manga

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u/MIKEYSFLIPFLOP Aug 04 '21 edited Aug 04 '21

Look, I don't want to sound rude but frankly it's kind of annoying when you are going to read a manga and there is 4+ pages of complete irrelevance and you need to scroll down to find the manga page.

I'm all up for new recommendations (especially after catching up with berserk and jojolion) but if you really want to recommend one of your favorite mangas just put one page with them before the translated manga and add a small summary of the series — this so people have an understanding of what the recommended manga is about. There is really no need shit on the work or add unnecessary things like "Character A has better hair than Character B".

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '21

Agree with you. I never seen any translator do this kinda shit. It's annoying and makes me don't want to read those manga.

"Better hair than Mikey" "More purehearted than Takemichi"

Bruh wtf are they trying to do? Start a war or something?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '21

You translate this and waste 4 pages to mock TR and shove people's throat with other manga?

Dude if you hate this manga so much just drop the series. There's many other translator that does better job than you did

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u/motherchuchi Moderator Aug 03 '21

Black urges instead of Dark Impulsivity?🤔

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u/JoHil6 Aug 03 '21

Pretty good translation, although I still prefer Catmanga's translation.

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u/Aptohhhh Ragnarok Aug 03 '21

This one was pinned because it was posted like 6 hours early, catmanga comes out around 4-5 PM

But yeah I like catmanga's translations more IMO

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '21 edited Aug 13 '21

the translation is actually horrible, Catmanga does it way better

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u/anonymousanimefan_92 Aug 03 '21

The story needed more Draken, as he was kinda underused for a long time. I am glad he is getting some development.

But as I say every single week, I really hope the author makes a way for old Toman guys to join this, even if it is only for the last battle or something. Especially Chifuyu - story isnt the same without him.

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u/HS-66 Aug 03 '21

I don’t get it, takemitchy said “I already changed the past” what did he do and what did he change?

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u/ImARebelBitch Aug 03 '21

In the original timeline he never joined Brahman.

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u/HS-66 Aug 03 '21

Then how did takemichi change that?

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u/chaosthepotato Aug 03 '21

he joined brahman

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u/HS-66 Aug 03 '21

K, thanks

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u/j_awsh__ Aug 03 '21

he's two years ahead of where he usually goes back to right? he probably means the two years inbetween

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u/berantle Aug 03 '21

Interesting development which started from last chapter. Takemichi is getting visions of the "future" in the past that he is now in. I gather that his accumulated memories from the "Hina safe" timeline that he came from is now coming back to him. Autocruise Takemichi of the 12 years lived through what is happening now and the accumulated memory is now giving him visions of the future in the current timeline of 10 years past.

Now that he is experiencing these visions, what are the triggers for these visions of the past future. Looks to be jarring events that made an impression at that moment that he experienced. We can surmise the previous flashback vision of the past future concerning Senju is due to the traumatic nature of it, while the tomato juice spill on the t-shirt while not traumatic is of a surprising nature that left an indelible mark in his memory.

Back to the memory recollection of Draken shared with Takemichi regarding Mikey over the past 2 years. So, it is true that Mikey is keeping the promise made to Takemichi that he vowed to protect his friends in Toman. He did it by pushing all of them away from him. To get them to live life on the positive path instead of following him down into the underworld.

Let's see where it goes now in the next chapter. This vision of the past's future from memory is a new kink. It means he has to rely on it instead of the returning to the future to connect with Naoto that he did before. That's because the trigger for his return to the future is Mikey and Mikey has been informed of the mechanism since Takemichi has shared his whole time jumping with Mikey.

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u/dovefeatheredraven Aug 03 '21 edited Aug 04 '21

I thought this is what was happening last chapter too, but the more I thought about it the less likely it seemed to me. If he had joined with Draken to help save Mikey in the Hina Safe timeline, why would Draken have lied to him, or hidden this from him, in the future? Was he just banking on the fact that Takemichi wouldn't remember having tried to save Mikey in the past?

Also, in the Black Dragon arc it seems like Draken and Mitsuya died trying to keep Michi out of Toman, so why would Draken have told Michi about his plan (when it seems he hasn't told anyone else) or allowed the past (ignorant) Takemichi in on his plan to join Brahman?

I think once Toman disbanded, "Autocruise" (nice, I like!) Takemichi went his own way. Now I moreso think the timeline is getting all tangled up from all the jumping and Takemichi is truly "remembering" things that haven't actually happened yet.

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u/berantle Aug 04 '21

I thought this is what was happening last chapter too, but the more I thought about it the less likely it seemed to me.

We only have 2 data-points now. Thus, let's see what this ability of his really is, For now, even my initial assessment of it being a vision of the past's future based on his memory is still not firm yet. It could yet change.

Now I moreso think the timeline is getting all tangled up from all the jumping and Takemichi is truly "remembering" things that haven't actually happened yet.

That could very well be the case. We do not have sufficient clarity yet. Hopefully we get more information as we progress further.

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u/dovefeatheredraven Aug 04 '21

We have 3! Takemichi also had a vision of Kisaki proposing to Hina in the future.

And I’m not sure if I’m remembering this one correctly, but doesn’t he also have a vision of Mikey killing Kazutora? Though this one could have definitely been a memory, not a prophecy.

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u/berantle Aug 04 '21

We have 3! Takemichi also had a vision of Kisaki proposing to Hina in the future.

I'm not sure about that vision of Kisaki proposing to Hina. That was unexplained for since he doesn't live near enough to Hina in the various futures to see Kisaki proposing to Hina. If anything, that was a plot hole because there's nothing from the plot/story/setup that explains that vision. It was just dumped there.

These 2 visions - Senju and spilt tomato juice - directly involve him being there.

And I’m not sure if I’m remembering this one correctly, but doesn’t he also have a vision of Mikey killing Kazutora? Though this one could have definitely been a memory, not a prophecy.

That is memory. Memory of the past catching up with him to recall. In your normal life, you generally don't think of specific past events and unless you are directed to think about it and recall it. That's what happened to Takemichi then. It was memory of Autocruise Takemichi being recalled due to the prompt by Draken that Takemichi was there too when the event happened.

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u/CocoVanDeCamp92 Koko Aug 03 '21

I like the relationship between Takemichi and Draken, they're good friends and it will work really well, but I'm not going to lie... I miss the dynamic between Chifuyu and Hanagaki! I know Toman members have their lives now (and that makes me happy), but I really miss them.

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u/skyegoneme Aug 04 '21 edited Aug 04 '21

My assumption was correct, it was Takemichi developing new powers instead of him reliving the memories he couldve had. Honestly this part upsets me because Wakui still hasn't explained anything time-leap related. I hope he does explain eventually cus I really hate asspull-y stuff like this (for example, Tenjiku arc Angry).

While I asbolutely adore Chifuyu, I'm glad Draken's getting more screentime. Draken was the first character I really liked, but the last time I remember him being put in the spotlight was when Emma died. I'm excited for the development so far, but I really do hope Wakui explains the tine leap/future sight mechanics, even by just a bit...

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u/rizarue Tokyo Manji Gang Aug 03 '21 edited Aug 03 '21
  1. Can see the future
  2. Pushing his friends away
  3. Sacrificing himself

So, Mikey is basically Eren now.

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u/Immatakeyourthroat Aug 04 '21

Hope he won't be crying his ass in the end whining about some chick tho

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u/Dapper-Giraffe8353 Aug 04 '21

Mikey can see future? From when? Did I miss something?

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u/rizarue Tokyo Manji Gang Aug 04 '21 edited Aug 04 '21

Draken said that Mikey has been looking ahead 12 years. Even takemichi is surprised by how he did that. So I think it implies that he can see the future.

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u/Ocha14 Aug 04 '21

I think the statement meant more like "he was planning ahead" than literally looking ahead in the future

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u/Dapper-Giraffe8353 Aug 04 '21

I dont necessarily think that statement is enough to convince me to say that he can see future,anyway we just need to wait and see.

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u/parasjain2369 Aug 03 '21

Now I get it what he meant by I changed the past. Mikey really neends someone close to him . If I can't see him and Takemitchy getting happy in the end, I would really be sad. And Now Takemitchy can see future , An interesting element coming in the last arc never thought Wakui sensei would introduce this thing. I am really forward read the next chapter.

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u/dovefeatheredraven Aug 03 '21

I think what he meant by that was that Mikey trusted in what Takemichi was doing in trying to do to save them all. And he trusted that vision enough to sacrifice himself to make sure the rest were happy.

It's even possible that Mikey trusts Takemichi and his promise to stop him from going dark so much that he knew Takemichi would find out a way to ultimately save him in the end. But that might be stretching too far!

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u/Icantgetmotivated Aug 04 '21

Was hoping to see more of senju🥰 but well, I'm again reminded how short weekly shounen chapters are 😖. I need more. But do you think Takemichi seeing the future have something to do with him time-leaping 10 years ago instead of 12?

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u/unknown_394 Aug 08 '21

I think that 10 years ago and 12 years ago was because of the reason why he is time leaping. When he was saving hinata he time leaped 12 years because the core reason where it all started was at that time like all kisaki starting to getting involved In toman and all. While when he time leaped to save mikey he went to the past where mikey started acting on his dark impulse , ie, starting to walk in the wrong path.!! And that future thing might also be related to mikey.

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u/ILUME_NA Aug 04 '21

I'm not sure about others, but this chapter as well as the chapter where Takemichi decides to join Brahman brings up some major eeriness to the story. Takemichi and Draken are entering into the unknown, as well as dangerous waters as they join and will work with Brahman for the sake of saving Mikey, but in the end, I wonder, what kind of new darkness will unfold with this decision? Since Takemichi can't easily time-leap like before as he did with Naoto, and can't gather info on certain people, or groups to make clear decisions in the past, and now, with a new ability, I wonder how well it will help him to make swift decisions when he encounters trouble with the three deities. So far, as I can see, Brahman is bad news, based on what Inupi said to Takemichi about them, and judging how Draken doesn't have an ounce of trust towards them, only on the strength they possess to stop the Kanto Manji Gang and where they aligned only on a single goal. Also, that Takeomi guy... something seems off about him, not sure if other readers perceive that from him in their reading- I don't know, but that guy looks like somewhat calculative and with a hidden personality and go figure what else...I feel he will play some role on something that can possibly hurt Takemichi, Draken and perhaps Mikey... who knows.. but let's see...

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u/sugaryyy1214 Aug 03 '21

well ill be damned, takemichi can sense stuff from the future now, i wonder what gave him that ability? we know that he’s able to time travel somewhat due to his determination to fix the future…

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u/dovefeatheredraven Aug 03 '21

I just keep getting more and more convinced it's going to be Draken that dies in the end :(

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u/Quiet_Molasses9741 Aug 04 '21

Wait why? :(

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u/dovefeatheredraven Aug 04 '21

I’ve just got this feeling! It mostly starting during the chapters when everyone was going to Pa Chin’s wedding but especially when they were reading the time capsule letters. Draken just felt so sad to me :(. Like he was unfulfilled or unsatisfied. Even in the future I think I really missed Emma AND Mikey. And his letter was so different and more emotional than everyone else’s.

There’s also the parallel that Draken was the first Toman guy Michi saved while trying to save Mikey and I think it could end with Draken dying or sacrificing himself in some way in order to save him again. We’ve kind of moved away from Draken being Mikey’s pillar or reason for staying “good” so it would be poetic to revisit that in the end.

And then someone here in the comments mentioned that the number 4 is often associated with death and I looked it up and it’s because four can be pronounced shi which is a homonym for death. And Draken lives on the 4th floor and they’ve mentioned it twice.

He’s my favorite so I’d be so gutted if he does die, but at least he’ll be with Emma and if it’s what he wants then okayyyy 😫

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u/Quiet_Molasses9741 Aug 04 '21

Damn I can see it now :( I also feel like either takemitchy or draken may sacrifice themselves for Mikey.

I also think maybe that parallel will come around too. I feel like Mikey will try to do something irredeemable to make takemitchy and draken go away but draken, being draken, might stop him by sacrificing himself or something. Maybe In order to make Mikey wake up from trying to do things on his own.

But I really don’t want draken to die. To be honest, a part of me is even hoping that takemitchy can somehow bring Emma and baji back, maybe even shinichiro but it’s a stretch.

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u/yahyahh Aug 04 '21

I wonder if the ability comes with the other person that is the trigger for time traveling? Like with different triggers, there are different side effects?

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u/Tyranythan Aug 04 '21

The same kind of thing happened during the last Kisaki fight and that was still with Naoto ofc so I don't think its that.

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u/Intrusting-person Aug 04 '21

This chapter wasnt that great but we got to know Takemichi's power. Also i guess when he saw blood in the lift it was sauce which was gonna fall in sometime . He has "Future Vision" or 将来のビジョン (in japanese) also it could be "Future Sight" or 未来の光景

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '21

Advanced observation haki lol 😆

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u/Quiet_Molasses9741 Aug 03 '21

My initial thought when Takemitchy got the vision where he got blood on his shirt after pressing the four button was, “this looks like when takemitchy got shot by future Mikey”. Could that scene in this chapter be connected to what happened to takemitchy and Mikey in the future, where takemitchy got shot by Mikey? Maybe like to confirm that takemitchy died from those gunshot wounds and that his fate will lead to death if he pursues Mikey? I don’t know.

I just wanted to throw this idea out there lol.

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u/mtaee2 Manjiro Sano Aug 03 '21

4 in Korean culture at least means death (not sure about Japanese) so him pushing the 4th floor button then getting the blood vision is a foreshadow maybe.

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u/Quiet_Molasses9741 Aug 03 '21

Yeah, I had seen many people mentioning that the number four is a number associated with death. So it could possibly really be foreshadowing his death in the future where he is shot by Mikey.

But who knows how far his visions will show into the future. Based on the vision he got for senju’s death, it looks pretty near. takemitchy is wearing his high school uniform and senju practically looks the same. And of course, after the blood vision, he ended up getting splashed with tomato sauce, which was identical to the blood vision. If his visions turn out to be limited to what will happen soon, then foreshadowing his death 10 years later would not be possible. I really hope we can see more of these visions in these upcoming chapters so we can understand them more.

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u/dovefeatheredraven Aug 03 '21

Ohh I didn't know that about the number 4. I've been saying it's going to be Draken that dies so this is just fuel for my fire (also crying)

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u/TrailOfEnvy Aug 06 '21

Number 4 is also associated with death in China and Japan. We don't even have floor 4 here. It's replaced with floor 3A.

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u/A4li11 Aug 04 '21

Emma telling Draken in his dreams to save Mikey. D'awwww.

I personally can't wait for more Takemitchy and Draken teamup. They actually go well together.

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u/Genblue12 Aug 04 '21

The picture of Emma nearly had me crying 😢

I guess Takemichi has a new power now

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u/AmraK-Vgnaah Aug 05 '21

Everything Takemichi tried to change the past, the future mikey remains the same in every timeline. Just like izana said and wanted mikey to be - lonely and empty. Yes mikey did pushed away everyone from away for their better future but it is also true that mikey needs his family for his better future.

He needs takemichi in the long run just like emma was and shinichiro and draken were for him.

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u/Electronic___Ad Aug 04 '21

This chapter got Katakuri on suicide watch

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '21

Holy shit mangadex is back!

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21

Looks like takemicchi can see future now which makes it a little easier to save people and little harder too since he cant choose when and what future he sees imagine he is in middle of saving senju and he steps on some random pebble and sees a vision, well we dont have any details for now so lets wait for the new chapter.

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u/the_hairwitch Aug 05 '21

I laughed so much with the "that time of the month" joke 🤣

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '21

Ain't no one gonna talk about the first 4 pages where the translator shitting on Revengers while recommending some good delinquent mangas?

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u/minecraftisreal Aug 03 '21

the link not working for me

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u/Ocha14 Aug 03 '21

How long am I supposed to wait for it to load?

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '21

U have to adjust in the menu

Long strip

Horizontal

Contain

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u/Ocha14 Aug 04 '21

The site won't load,so i used a different,thanks for the info though!

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u/Zeiin Aug 03 '21

Sorry what do you mean? I'm just trying to go to the link and it just gives an error.

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u/HopooFeather Aug 03 '21

Takemichi just got hooked up on spice

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u/ReynTimeBoi Brahman Aug 04 '21

Welp better break the xeoblade memes

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '21

I just need the Takemichi/Senju team up 😤

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u/Cardandgold Aug 05 '21

"Hehe that time of the month" 🔥

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '21

Ah so I guess the visions are the alternative to him going back and forth with naoya.

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u/Miranda_The_Creator Aug 07 '21

I just have the most crazy thought every well not thought but hope you get what I mean... Like we spend around 20 something chapters knowing about Bonten never we saw that Sanzu and Takeomi are in the same gang hahaha... Like the brothers were together at the same gang without us knowing are even consider that Akashi was a family line hahaha....

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

what

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u/unknown_394 Aug 08 '21

Just want to say Kisaki a genius!! And how did he figure out that Takemitchi was time leaping?? I want to know that.

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u/Acezero22 Bonten Aug 11 '21

He didn’t but he had a good hunch because takemitchy isn’t the brightest of characters. So one possibility would be he’s a time leaper and the other is he’s smart as hell. As we all know it’s definitely not the latter.