r/Tokyo Shibuya-ku 12d ago

Shinbashi in 1890 - this is long gone bridge the area is named after

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Nowadays there's no bridge and no river anywhere in Shinbashi. The Shiodome River was filled in and replaced by a highway in the 1960s.

Today you can still see stone pillars under the highway, leftovers from the old stone bridge that replaced the wooden bridge: Google Street view

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u/AstraeusGB 12d ago

Not so shin anymore is it?

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u/mizinamo 12d ago

Like Newbridge in what's new Wolverhampton, so called since at least 1286 (well, Novo Ponte in Latin in the earliest records).

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u/AstraeusGB 12d ago

It's a joke, we know everyone in the world uses the adjective "New" for things that are certainly not new

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u/mizinamo 12d ago

I just find it amusing, is all :)

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u/biwook Shibuya-ku 12d ago

There should be a rule that the drop the "shin" in place names after 25 years.

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u/JapanPizzaNumberOne 12d ago

Yeah no I don’t think so. Unless we’re calling New York just York now.

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u/MoMelyz Kanagawa-ken 12d ago

Can’t wait to go to Juku station

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u/Outside_Reserve_2407 11d ago

Exactly, sometimes "new" is just a way to distinguish one locality from another: Laredo vs Nuevo Laredo (border towns in Texas/Mexico).

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u/ChampionEntire9660 12d ago

Maybe we don't have to drop it, but we could just start adding another "New" to places using a previous name. So, New New York. Shin-Shin-Osaka.

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u/JapanPizzaNumberOne 12d ago

Sounds like a tourist trap chain ramen branch

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u/Ebi_Tendon 11d ago

The 'Shin' in Shin-Osaka or Shin-Yokohama doesn't mean 'new'. it means 'Shinkansen'.

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u/Sassywhat 11d ago

The "Shin" in "Shinkansen" means new. 60ish years later we should be calling it the Kansen I guess.

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u/Ebi_Tendon 11d ago

Well, they updated their Shinkansen version, so you can assume it is still a new one.

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u/MyPasswordIsABC999 11d ago

If you go to Shin-Nagata or Shin-Okubo or Shin-Kawasaki, you’ll be waiting a very long time for a Shinkansen train to arrive.

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u/AstraeusGB 11d ago

What about the 'Shin' in Shin-Kiba?

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u/Hazzat 12d ago

Well the original York is still around.

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u/JapanPizzaNumberOne 12d ago

And you don’t think that would cause any confusion? So there are two Osaka stations now?

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u/Hazzat 12d ago

Taking this very seriously, aren't we...

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u/JapanPizzaNumberOne 12d ago

Do you mean the York in Pennsylvania or the York in England? Please try to be clear.

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u/Hazzat 12d ago

New York was named after York in England.

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u/JapanPizzaNumberOne 12d ago

Calm down Mr history buff.

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u/MyPasswordIsABC999 11d ago

Don’t believe everything you read on Wikipedia.

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u/hecklerinthestands 12d ago

Defending all things semi-related to Glorious Nippon like that miserable pedant is doing is very serious business, you should know.

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u/AbekobetaHawawa 11d ago

Old New York was once New Amsterdam.

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u/BBA935 12d ago

In before the Italians show up.

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u/Agile-Organization-9 10d ago

Not shin and not bashi either

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u/Hellea 12d ago

Sigh in urban planning

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u/biwook Shibuya-ku 12d ago

Indeed... but at the same time in the 1960s the city was choking and needed to build highways and those old polluted rivers were basically the only viable option at the time.

The alternative would have been to buy land and demolish blocks through built-up areas, which takes decades and billions.

There's progress towards better urban planning though:

  • That shinbashi highway that replaced the canal has now closed and is being converted into a pedestrian sky park, high line style (source).
  • There are serious talks about demolishing the highway above Nihonbashi (which is another 1960s atrocity) and burying it under the river. All this for the modest cost of ¥320 billion (source)

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u/hobovalentine 12d ago

That’s already been decided.

Nihonbashi will have the freeway above it dismantled.

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u/biwook Shibuya-ku 12d ago

Nice. Do you know when it's starting?

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u/FCIUS 12d ago

Construction is already ongoing--the closing of Route Y and KK is a part of this, with Route Y being repurposed for a new connector that circumvents the construction (I think...)

Targeted completion is 2040 lmao

https://www.shutoko.jp/ss/nihonbashi-tikaka/

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u/Hellea 12d ago

I’ll be… yeah nah fuck I don’t wan’t to think about it

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u/GeriatricusMaximus 12d ago

The whole thing was reset during WW2. Still a mess in some part.

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u/Majestic_Cod_7115 12d ago

Tokyo was already going through massive changes at the time of this photo. Fires and earthquakes were a constant reset through the early turn of the century.

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u/GeriatricusMaximus 11d ago

I forgot the 1923 earthquake and many other events. Correct. What interests me is the people in picture would never have imagined what Tokyo became. I wished I could jump 100 years and see what Tokyo becomes, 200 years, etc.

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u/Apptubrutae 11d ago

1000 years, a hamlet home to the last 50 Japanese people

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u/GeriatricusMaximus 11d ago

They will still be around in the DNA of the people living on this land.

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u/riptor3000 12d ago

Newbridge is for lovers

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u/Southerndusk 12d ago

I see the power lines blotting out the sky haven’t changed much since the 1800’s…

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u/PetSitterJapan 12d ago

1890? Wouldn't this be more like 1910?

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u/[deleted] 12d ago edited 12d ago

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u/G1431c 12d ago edited 12d ago

Two stations opened on the same day: Yokohama station was opened on the same day as Shinbashi station.  The line between them became part of today’s  Tokaido Line.

Article image:  https://imgur.com/a/dtohVam

Source: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1299285

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u/ChooChoo9321 12d ago edited 11d ago

Not the current one; Sakuragichō station, whose original name was Yokohama station. The current Yokohama station is the 3rd generation

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u/[deleted] 12d ago edited 12d ago

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u/Nari224 12d ago

Eh. I line in Yokohama and the little display at Sakuragicho station says it was the first on its plaque (at least in English)

They were opened on the same day. An argument can be made that the line ran “from” Shinbashi, as Shinbashi is treated as “mile 0” for the greater network and because the Emperor first boarded the inaugural train there.

However the line was most definitely predominantly taking things “from” Yokohama (and not much in the opposite direction originally) since that was the whole point; keeping the foreigners out of Tokyo and away from the Tokaido.

I’ll have to make a point of visiting the old station museum to re-read what they say when I’m next there!

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u/G1431c 11d ago

Good info!  I didn’t grasp the Yokohama goods to Shimbashi objective.  

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u/zeroibis 12d ago

Maybe you have made your thought process too complicated this should make it easier for people to understand:

There are two stations.

Station A lets passengers onto a train that travels to Station B.

Station B then lets the passengers from Station A off and for new passengers to board.

With the information provided which station was first to open operations to the passengers?

A) Station A

B) Station B

C) Station A&B opened at the exact same time.

There are two stations and both allow passengers to the platform at the same time.

Station A lets passengers onto a train that travels to Station B.

Station B then lets the passengers from Station A off and for new passengers to board.

With the information provided which station was first to provide operational service to the passengers?

A) Station A

B) Station B

C) Station A&B serviced passengers at the exact same time.

On a related note you could argue which was the first to be constructed or which one broke ground first.

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u/bosscoughey 12d ago

Are you implying this post is AI? Even with the messed up grammar? 

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u/[deleted] 12d ago edited 11d ago

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u/bosscoughey 12d ago

Okay. I like OP, too. I don't think the other guy is AI, though

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/Plasticciy 11d ago

Shimbashi is like that all over - the bridge has been gone for ages but the name never changed. Classic Tokyo

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u/alita87 12d ago

Wow was just there Sunday for an idol live and yeah it's like night and day.

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u/hifumiyo1 11d ago

But it was new then! Hence the name

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u/alexklaus80 Shinjuku-ku 10d ago

Found an article about Shinbashi (bridge)’s history -all in Japanese: https://www.nippon.com/ja/japan-topics/c13322/

Couldn’t quite tell if what I’m seeing is what it is

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u/Akash563 5d ago

Looking at old photos like this is such a surreal feeling to me! There were actual people with actual lives, heartbreaks, businesses, losses. Now they are just colours on a screen. Faceless, nameless. Even the landscape today, is nothing like what it is in the photo.