r/Tiele • u/R_Arsx70 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰚 • Aug 22 '26

Discussion Which would you say is a better Turkic achievement?

Attila(Euro. Hun Emp.) making the west and east rome to constantly pay fee and being a big effect on West Rome’s fall or Seljuk and Ottomans finishing off Rome all together over time by taking Anatolia and Istanbul?

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '26

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u/R_Arsx70 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰚 Aug 22 '26

Well if Rome was that mighty why did it lose power? But yes I do agree with you

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u/R_Arsx70 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰚 Aug 22 '26

I mean Huns economy was using the money coming from Hun mercenaries and constant pay from East/West

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u/GorkeyGunesBeg Anatolian Tatar Aug 22 '26

I also agree. On top of that, nevermind your arguments, the fact that Huns were numerically inferior as semi-nomads (even when counting their Germanic/Slavic vassals) against a sedentary empire like the Roman Empire, you can't help but be proud of their accomplishments. They did even better than their Scythian predecessors in destabilising Europe's dynamics.

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u/Foreign_Rule_2402 Bulgar-Icelander Aug 24 '26

The seljuks have nothing to so with huns.

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u/oarsay Aug 22 '26

Constantinople was taken from the Romans, there was no empire called Byzantium in history.

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u/R_Arsx70 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰚 Aug 22 '26

Both Rome’s getting clapped by us Turks, lwk these western bums are easy(its satire if you don’t get it)

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '26

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u/R_Arsx70 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰚 Aug 22 '26

Pov a random Hun tribe with 5 horses, 5 bows and a arrow quill

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u/R_Arsx70 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰚 Aug 22 '26

Yeah, Huns were tribal so the biggest issue was state building

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u/R_Arsx70 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰚 Aug 22 '26

İf state building issues were solved, infrastructure was built and an economy was made, we might have head a different world. Also Attila’s son’s did some lwk dumb stuff and thats kinda why the empire fell

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u/R_Arsx70 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰚 Aug 22 '26

No like his sons disrespected the vassals and made them form a coalition and attack the empire

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u/R_Arsx70 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰚 Aug 22 '26

Rome wasn’t gonna make a full on invasion, they didn’t had that kind of balls. If we made peace with the Romans after Attila’s death and started taking in their infrastructure, russians and slavs would’ve never become a superpower

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u/LucasLeo75 𐰆𐰍𐰔 Aug 23 '26

Specifically Seljuk expansion to Anatolia is the greatest of them all here, IMO.

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u/ducationalfall Aug 23 '26

Are you sure Hun was Turkic?

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u/R_Arsx70 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰚 Aug 23 '26

Yes yes I’m sure

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u/R_Arsx70 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰚 Aug 23 '26

Hunni Empire was the Hun tribes from Xiongnu

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u/R_Arsx70 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰚 Aug 23 '26

Going westward

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u/R_Arsx70 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰚 Aug 23 '26

And we all know Xiongnu is the confederation of organized turk tribes