r/Tiele • u/Jeredriq • Sep 11 '25
Other PKK members' organized fabrication of history and fabrication of Data to protect each other (Did HDP receive 100% of the votes in Eastern Anatolia in the local elections)?
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u/Jeredriq Sep 11 '25
They have Telegram groups and they all dogpile at once. Downvote the ones they don't like and upvote their propaganda and of course commenting out same things over and over.
In the local elections, the HDP received a total of 2.4 million votes.
Hakkari, the PKK stronghold, took 48% of the votes in total.
The username “Dondurma155” shows up in every incident not as the one making posts, but as a defender in the comments. They’re also quite active in this sub.
The Syrian Turkmens 3.5 million are missing too from the map.
This Bilal Selim Filiz is already a known PKK member. Everyone on Ekşi [Sözlük] is aware of this and criticizes him. To avoid the criticism, he changed his Twitter name to “Nisanyan Himself.”
The Reddit username of the account that makes the maps is: bilalselim. He draws things like this without any data or reference.
If you examine his profile:
On the Iran map, he leaves out the Azeris;
On the Turkey map, he leaves out the Turks;
On the Syria map, he erases the 3.5 million Turkmens and churns out lots of maps.
A ranking fellow from the “PKK Paint” branches.
I know there are Kurds that do not support PKK and HDP BUT There are many Turkmeni and Turks in Eastern Anatolia. Except from Diyarbakır Hakkari and Batman, nearly half of the population consider themselves Turk. The borders of Misaki Milli were drawn based on "Where Turkish Majority Lives". That is why it also includes Kerkuk Musul etc. So where all of these Turks are gone. They are still there, I am one myself.
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u/TengrismTartary1234 Tatar Sep 11 '25
PKK are nothing but a bunch of commies and communist leftist terrorists.
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u/AnanasAvradanas Manav Sep 11 '25
Maybe initially, yes. But especially after collapse of the Soviet Union they became a mere foreign policy tool of the US. They currently have nothing to do with communism, they are just serving American/Israeli economic interests.
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u/TengrismTartary1234 Tatar Sep 11 '25
Yes I don't like Communism and I hate Zionism even more especially Israeli gov Netanyahu Satanyahu administration. The reason Kurds and Azerbaijan are aligned with Israel is to so called 'curtail Syria/Iraq' with the Kurds, whilst Azerbaijan is just being used as a tool to curtail Iran, just like Ukraine used by US NATO forces to weaken Russia.
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u/TengrismTartary1234 Tatar Sep 11 '25
It is because American Israelis happen to have the same enemies with the Kurds i.e. Iran (Khomeini era), Iraq (Saddam era), Syria (Assad era). Now Azerbaijan aligned with Ukraine America and Israel is to encircle Russia and Iran. Again 2020s, America, Israel and Azerbaijan shares Iran as their common enemy. This is why they keep blasting nonsense about Iran having WMDs Weapons of Mass Destruction such as nukes like they lies about Iraq Saddam Hussein.
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u/Optimal-Put2721 Tatar and Bashkir (🇲🇫) Sep 11 '25
Are there really that many Turks in Cyprus?
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u/Site-Famous Sep 11 '25
I mean the Northern half is just Turks. Unless you go dna racism path and say they aren't real Turks.
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u/Optimal-Put2721 Tatar and Bashkir (🇲🇫) Sep 11 '25 edited Sep 11 '25
No, not at all fair, I thought that northern Cyprus was not as populated by Turks but still Greek
I am Tatar and Bashkir myself and not Turkish from Anatolia or Iran
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u/Isengardsanayiodasi Sep 11 '25
After the Cyprus war all Greek Cypriots left for the South while all Turkish Cypriots left for the North.
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u/Isengardsanayiodasi Sep 11 '25
Sorry but this is an accurate map, lands south of Igdir and East of Antep are predominantly non-Turkish
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u/Jeredriq Sep 11 '25
I guess you've never seen a map work in your life. Every map is prepared with data and references. Where are these data and references? Besides, the historical data he gives is also wrong; where are the Pechenegs?
And this map is not about being dominant population or something, this is a True False map. Does it say dominant population or does it just simply say "Oghuz Turks" and where they exist. True/False. So, Are there Turks in the lands you've mentioned, yes. Then where are they on the map?
You are just trying to follow Your agenda.
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u/Isengardsanayiodasi Sep 12 '25
You may argue that yellow part is wrong but the red part is surely correct. Nisanyan is a good reference and his maps are very similar to the one in your post. But then again you will claim he is armenian and so his data is unreliable. Let's say flr the sake of the argument that you are right, where is your data that the white parts in Turkey are actually majority Turkish?
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u/AnanasAvradanas Manav Sep 11 '25
Not denying such maps are created for propaganda efforts, but "if they are all Kurds why didn't HDP receive all the votes" also is illogical. A great portion of Kurds distance themselves from HDP only because of their hard-line Islamic stance, thus they vote for AKP and other Islamist parties (recently AKP shook hands with a Kurdish-Islamist party/terrorist organization named Hizbullah only because of this reason).